Jarren Duran

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It‘s “Alternate” site if you are Lou Merloni and you are there one day then here the next and then back there and so on. It’s “Alternative” if it is a different option from the usual one or the preferred one, be it league or driving route.

”I really love that Alternate Music scene“, said no one, ever.
 
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You're wrong. Look up the definition.

Edit: I mean, for many years Patrice Bergeron was an alternate captain on the Bruins, he wasn't an alternative captain. This isn't hard.
 
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No question they have settled on it. I just know my 5th grade English teacher rolls in her grave every time it is used. I'm kind of surprised no journalists have spoken out about it, even in a joking manner, which is as far as it should go.

Nice pics, didn't know they were using special jerseys for the practice games
 

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WooSox hitting coach Rich Gedman on Duran:
https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/05/01/red-sox-notebook-jarren-duran-separating-himself-at-triple-a-worcester/
“He’s been doing all the right things,” Gedman said. “To me it’s just a matter of time before we see him playing in the outfield in Boston. I’m not going to project when it’s going to happen but I think he’s on the right path. He continues to do the things he’s doing. It’s just a matter of time before it happens.

“He’s turning into, as a young person, a really solid pro. He’ll continue to get better in the outfield and at the plate and on the bases. He’s a gifted individual, no doubt. He’s starting to find out about himself. I love his honesty, his freshness, his understanding of the game, how respectful he is of his teammates and how he goes about his business. They all have talent here, but he has been separating, no doubt.”
Duran played his first Woo Sox game yesterday and went 0-4, but supposedly made a great catch:

Duran made a tremendous catch in center field, then doubled up the runner at first base.

Here’s Bloom explaining when he thinks Duran might be ready to join the big-league team:

“We’re gonna learn a lot pretty quickly,” Bloom said. “But at the end of the day, you know, it’s up to the player. (We have) every confidence that Jarren is going to go out there and knock that door down but, you know, he’ll tell us when he’s ready.”
Bloom also said in general, he wants prospects to prove themselves in AAA, so don't expect Duran to be rushed up to the majors anytime soon:
“I don’t think there are absolutes because every player is different,” Bloom said. “But that said, over the course of my career, what I’ve seen has led me to put a lot of value on that Triple-A experience. … You’re dealing with a group of players that know themselves a lot better. They know what they’re doing. The pitchers know how to get hitters out. The hitters have been around a while, and they know how to work an at-bat. That’s a type of test that you don’t really get in the same way at any other level of the minor leagues.”
 

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He had 8 Hr in 199 (official MiLB) games coming into this season, and has 4 hr in 9 games so far this season. I guess he did make some changes to that swing.
 

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lol at the catcher

He just drops his glove hand and is like “bruh...”

And that looks like a left handed Pedroia swing. I’d be curious to see LHH Pedey superimposed over that swing.
 

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I mean, it's very likely he can contribute to the major club more than Franchy right now, But Chaim won't rush him.
 

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I am no swing expert, but what I see 2021 v 2019:

Bigger leg kick
Lower hands pre-swing
More engagement with the lower body (not as Ichiro-y)


Some of these are all tied together.


Now- is he selling out for power ala Beni?
He has a much bigger frame than Beni - 6'2" 200 lb - and is a much better athlete. I don't remember Beni ever hitting massive tape measure shots like that, which seem to be quite fluid off Duran's bat. Hard not to be excited.
 

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He has a much bigger frame than Beni - 6'2" 200 lb - and is a much better athlete. I don't remember Beni ever hitting massive tape measure shots like that, which seem to be quite fluid off Duran's bat. Hard not to be excited.
I agree.... totally excited. I just hope he isn't selling out for power. On my own I did some more frame by frame breakdown... It looks like he gets back into the same hitting position after the big leg kick as he was at in 2019. .. except that now he has loaded his power. A lot more stored power So he can then unload rather than slap.
Again, I am not a swing expert, and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I did save $15 on my car insurance, though....
 

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It looks like he's just ready for it now. Before he looked skittish, dancing front foot - not sure when to load. Now he confidently loads up and fires.
 

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After 46 at-bats in AAA, Duran has a .998 OPS: .283/.389/.609
https://www.milb.com/player/jarren-duran-680776
4 HRs, 8 BB and 15 K, with 3 stolen bases.
He's been streaky-- he started 0 for 11, and is only 2 for his last 11, but was red hot in the 6 games in between. But it's a tiny sample size, so that's not too surprising.

So far, it's been a great start at the new level.
 

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8 HRs in his first 880 PA. 4 HR in 54 this year. He also has 3 doubles. More than half his hits are for extra bases (7/13).

Going into the year, 65 of his 258 hits were for extra bases. Also walking and striking out more than ever but it's 54 PA.

I wasn't very high on Duran because I figured he wouldn't hit for close to enough power in the Majors. I also thought if he could hit 15-20 HRs a year, he'd be a fringe all star because the rest of the game is there. He's looking like the latter in the early going.
 

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Isn’t this similar to Mookie/ Pedroia’s numbers somehow improving as they got promoted?
 

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Isn’t this similar to Mookie/ Pedroia’s numbers somehow improving as they got promoted?
Not really. He had a year off from actual competitive play (mostly) and changed significant things about his hitting approach. He may be a significantly different hitter as a result. Or maybe his power will vanish tomorrow, you never really know with sports. But he looks good so far. No matter what, this is not a case of steady improvement.

After his first season in low A, Mookie dominated each level pretty equivalently with wrc+ of 160, 166, 177, and 158. Considering the sample sizes and BABIP variation (which is sometimes luck and sometimes a sign of player contact quality, especially in the minors), I'd call those pretty even. I didn't see Pedroia's MiLB numbers at fangraphs, but his baseball reference page shows his OPS decreasing: 1.013, .941, .887, .761 as he went from A to AAA. Batting averge, OBP, and SLG all tracked the same way. So you must be remembering his stats wrong.
 

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Not really. He had a year off from actual competitive play (mostly) and changed significant things about his hitting approach. He may be a significantly different hitter as a result. Or maybe his power will vanish tomorrow, you never really know with sports. But he looks good so far. No matter what, this is not a case of steady improvement.

After his first season in low A, Mookie dominated each level pretty equivalently with wrc+ of 160, 166, 177, and 158. Considering the sample sizes and BABIP variation (which is sometimes luck and sometimes a sign of player contact quality, especially in the minors), I'd call those pretty even. I didn't see Pedroia's MiLB numbers at fangraphs, but his baseball reference page shows his OPS decreasing: 1.013, .941, .887, .761 as he went from A to AAA. Batting averge, OBP, and SLG all tracked the same way. So you must be remembering his stats wrong.
Yeah, only thing Duran has in common with Mookie is they changed their hitting approach. Hopefully it's not just SSS with Duran. Mookie made changes after his first season to hit for more power. Well, technically his 2nd but his first he had 1 game and 4 PA.
 

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Not really. He had a year off from actual competitive play (mostly) and changed significant things about his hitting approach. He may be a significantly different hitter as a result. Or maybe his power will vanish tomorrow, you never really know with sports. But he looks good so far. No matter what, this is not a case of steady improvement.

After his first season in low A, Mookie dominated each level pretty equivalently with wrc+ of 160, 166, 177, and 158. Considering the sample sizes and BABIP variation (which is sometimes luck and sometimes a sign of player contact quality, especially in the minors), I'd call those pretty even. I didn't see Pedroia's MiLB numbers at fangraphs, but his baseball reference page shows his OPS decreasing: 1.013, .941, .887, .761 as he went from A to AAA. Batting averge, OBP, and SLG all tracked the same way. So you must be remembering his stats wrong.
Thank you. I’m definitely wrong and should have pulled their stats up first.
Either way, great to see Duran hitting so well.
 

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How does a guy go from having no power to hitting 450ft + bombs?

It's amazing how much difference a swing can make.