Jarren Duran: Another Foray to Worcester

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By the way, what’s best practices for an outfielder losing a fly ball? I’d think you’d want to retreat as far back to the wall as possible to keep the ball in front of you and be able to run into the throw, but I haven’t played since high school.
I was taught to freeze and listen for a teammate to direct me ( in CF, presumably the LF or RF can see the ball). I suppose it might be harder to hear a teammate in a stadium with 35,000 screaming fans than an empty field behind a high school. He can also take a quick look around at his teammates to see where they're moving. If the LF is racing toward the wall in left-center, or the SS is tracking back into short center looking up, that could be a clue as to where the ball is going. I know when I'm at a game, I'm watching the fielders rather than the ball when it gets hit.
 

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I was taught to freeze and listen for a teammate to direct me ( in CF, presumably the LF or RF can see the ball). I suppose it might be harder to hear a teammate in a stadium with 35,000 screaming fans than an empty field behind a high school. He can also take a quick look around at his teammates to see where they're moving. If the LF is racing toward the wall in left-center, or the SS is tracking back into short center looking up, that could be a clue as to where the ball is going. I know when I'm at a game, I'm watching the fielders rather than the ball when it gets hit.
So bottom line…he should have been doing more research?
 

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Personally I’d go with “His Name is Jarren And His Head is In the Sand.”
Born in a town in Californee
Craziest state in the land of the free
Learned to hit baseballs on a tee
Dropped his first pop fly when he was only three
Jarren, Jarren Duran, Jester of the wild outfield
 

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As if we needed any more confirmation that Duran's explanation for not running after the ball was pure bull poop.
That looks just as bad as the original video, but it doesn't show that Duran was facing the infield and completely stopped. I agree it looks bad and I think he should have handled the post-game press conference much better, but I still cut him a break because he's new to the position and relatively new to the MLB. If he makes a similar non-hustle mistake I'll be all over him too. Right now, I'm interested in how he gets back up after being knocked down.
 

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That looks just as bad as the original video, but it doesn't show that Duran was facing the infield and completely stopped. I agree it looks bad and I think he should have handled the post-game press conference much better, but I still cut him a break because he's new to the position and relatively new to the MLB. If he makes a similar non-hustle mistake I'll be all over him too. Right now, I'm interested in how he gets back up after being knocked down.
That's not even an MLB experience issue. I learned to not give up on the play in little league for crying out loud.
 

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That looks just as bad as the original video, but it doesn't show that Duran was facing the infield and completely stopped. I agree it looks bad and I think he should have handled the post-game press conference much better, but I still cut him a break because he's new to the position and relatively new to the MLB. If he makes a similar non-hustle mistake I'll be all over him too. Right now, I'm interested in how he gets back up after being knocked down.
He knocked himself down and losing the ball in the twilight doesn't factor into it at all.
 

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I’m with Sin Duda on this. It’s over. Done. Past.
I think what Houck is doing with his vaccination shit is more egregious but I’m over it until it comes up again to see what happens. Same with Duran.
 

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I don’t see a problem with what he said. If it drives him to perform better, that will be a positive for the team.
Exactly. The kids 25 and the majority of what he knows is success and ass kissing. That's the life of a professional athlete. Let him think they're going to the world series. It's cute and harmless.
 

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Pretty bold statement coming from a guy that blatantly quit on a play a few weeks ago and tried to make a pathetic excuse to the media after. No need to go into his inability to play games in Toronto. Hopefully, they can deal him in a package for something of value.
 

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I honestly don't care what kind of jack ass Duran is. If he can help this team this year and in future years he can flip the fans off and call them all Johnny from Burger King for all I care. Just keep the hits coming.
 

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I honestly don't care what kind of jack ass Duran is. If he can help this team this year and in future years he can flip the fans off and call them all Johnny from Burger King for all I care. Just keep the hits coming.
You won’t be allowed to cheer for him though. Just remember that!
 

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This guy is just a big dumb angry meathead. From giving up on that ball vs. Toronto to refusal to get vaccinated to repeatedly running his mouth in the media there's a real pattern of stupid developing here.
 

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I'm with @Brianish, just so good.

Yes, and to be on topic, media training would be great. Getting pissed at people who you think ran your team down makes sense: its only human and as some have observed a little redass works quite well for some folks. Getting quoted on the topic makes quite a bit less sense.

Good news is he's really pushing through the list of RealBadThings so curious if he goes quiet or maybe Tyson-zone:
1) Initially Vax challenged - Indicated he'd get vax for Toronto so...done?
2) Loafing - As noted, this just gets you tarred & feathered in this town and could sting for a while.
3) Going at the Fans - Just the A#1 stupid choice here and really impressive work.
 

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Clueless in every aspect of the game, and getting worse. Really discouraging to see how Duran, and to a lesser extent, Downs, played in Boston and how they seemed completely unable to adjust in their time here. Does anyone have any faith that either of them can help next years team?
 

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He needs a new number too. Not fair to Dave Henderson to keep wearing it even though Hendu was only here a short time.
 

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Just give him a one way ticket back to wherever he’s from when they get to the airport this afternoon.
 

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This team is borderline unwatchable from a talent perspective and then we have this clown (and Pham now woooo). Disappointing is not the right word.
 

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He's an a-hole and an idiot to get into it with the fans, but at what point do we question our brain trust for running him out in centerfield? He clearly can't play the position. You might as well ask Martinez or Plawecki to give it a try.
 
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It dawns on me Duran seems like that athletic guy in high school, the speedy one on the football or track team, the one who someone sees and says, "You know, he looks strong, and he's fast, kinda like a baseball centerfielder. Let's recruit him for the team." And they do. He looks the part in the uniform. And then the balls start coming his way, and people start to cringe, with someone finally muttering, "Who asked this guy to come out for the team?"
 

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I hadn’t seen this before my comment above. That’s not acceptable professional behavior. If I ran the world he’d be cut immediately.
Players lose their tempers sometimes - it's an awful look, but I don't think it's a fireable offense. Also, let's make sure the fans weren't saying something unconscionable before we decide to kill him (though one would assume Verdugo would've done something beyond just holding him back if the fans were being racist).

He's an a-hole and an idiot to get into with the fans, but at what point do we question our brain trust for running him out in centerfield? He clearly can't play the position. You might as well ask Martinez or Plawecki to give it a try.
I had a similar thought -- at some point, aren't you better served to send the kid down for 10 days to clear his head? But cutting JBJ suggests they have bought us all a ticket on the Duran-in-CF train for the foreseeable future, otherwise they'd have kept JBJ around for exactly this eventuality.
 

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Clueless in every aspect of the game, and getting worse. Really discouraging to see how Duran, and to a lesser extent, Downs, played in Boston and how they seemed completely unable to adjust in their time here. Does anyone have any faith that either of them can help next years team?
The Sox haven't been good at developing young talent. Downs though, has mostly been a minor league SS and backup 2B. The Sox threw him in at 3B and 2B, so I'm not hugely worried about the hitting or the misplays in the field. I mean, I'm not sure he's a ML player at the end of the day, but it's not like they made the transition easy for him.
 

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I'm really shocked he wasn't dealt at the deadline. He is going to have negative value by the end of the season.
Why were you shocked ? If the best offer was some A ball lotto ticket drafted in the 14th round 6 years ago, why trade him?

I can't imagine teams were lining up for him