Seriously. Not even the usual boilerplate “ We thank Urban for time and effort, but it’s in the best interest of the organization to move on” blah, blah, blah. Shad’s going to the mattresses, and I hope Urbie doesn’t get a cent of his future contract money.
I think the issue with Lawrence is that he needs a competent offensive line in order for us to see what he can do.
Yet, a coach needs to be able to walk into a recruit’s home and tell his parents, with some credibility, that he’ll take care of the young man. Urban Meyer was able to do that for years. I don’t see how he will be able to do it now. Keeping up appearances is important, and Meyer failed to do that this season.
I suspect that my sarcasm detector is on the fritz, but I don’t think kicking the kicker was the tipping point. However, the fact that the (former) kicker was speaking on the record about the incident was probably foreshadowing a torrent of shit about to flow down on the Jags. My guess is that Kahn knew this and decided to move.
I don’t know, it could be seen as Meyer assaulting a player. That might have been the kind of contractual “out” that Khan felt would let him shitcan Urban and not pay him another dime.
Seems like "kicks or it didn't happen" was the tell. You need to upgrade the OS of your detector. It's wildly out of date.
Swinney is upset that his (and most head coaches) power and authority in the game is being eroded by the changes (players gaining more freedom and autonomy). I can't imagine he's anxious to move to the professional ranks where the head coach/GM has even less control/power. College "ball coaches" like Swinney and Meyer get off on having unchecked authority. Dealing with grown men who don't have to supplicate themselves to their whims is not their wheelhouse, as Meyer's disastrous stint has shown.
Agreed, except soon he’ll be running hisgame back on teenagers desperate for a break and on coeds in his next college nest. College football can really be an abomination
Swinney is as odious as Meyer. He's a fake spiritual jerk who is both two faced and weirdly defensive about everything. And it is really funny he's complaining about the NIL because, as you say, it now levels the playing field that I have no doubt Clemson was abusing to their advantage. Swinney also needs to show he can win without Trevor Lawrence.
Landing the #1 QB prospect in the country probably will help with that.
I'm not sure. Petrino had a pretty spectacular flameout at Arkansas and still managed to claw his way back to a prominent coaching gig. Hugh Freeze is building Liberty towards respectability and already has a top 25 finish after an even bigger scandal at Ole Miss. There's always going to be a smaller program willing to take the hit to their rep by hiring one of these guys.
Fair enough. But, of course, that further proves the point that Dabo can only win with generational talent QBs.
You don't know that to be true. All we know is that he's won two national championships, both with great quarterbacks. Doesn't mean he CAN'T win without one. We have to wait and see. But now that he's got the #1 QB prospect, if he wins another title in the next few years, you will still be able to say this, right?
Boorish sexual behavior will be forgiven after an appropriate period of time if you can win. (Even Rick Pitino is back in coaching.) What won’t be easily forgiven is that Meyer treated his employees and players like they were his servants and he refused to take any responsibility for his failures.
I think this is right. The plaid sports-coat booster crowd will justify it with "that was the NFL, with their spoiled thugs who reject authority."
It’s a weird thing to ding him for being able to both recruit and win with generational QBs. It’s not like he lucked into the first pick or anything. Plus college football is full of coaches that squander the careers of that level of player.
I'm not sure if Lamb going to the press was the final nail in the coffin or the justification. When Lawrence said that the drama needed to stop it was subtle/not subtle implication that Meyer needed to go (not that it wasn't clear long before). He could have been shit canned before that for any number of reasons, particularly after kicking a player, not traveling back to FLA so he could get drunk and grope 20 year olds, or threatening retaliation against employees, but coverage of the assault seems to be good cover for making your generational talent QB happy. Regardless, good riddence, fuck Meyer and everything he pretends to stand for.
I understand that this is Urban Meyer’s thread, but please explain exactly how was Clemson ‘abusing [it] to their advantage,” and if they were, how it was different from any other power conference college. Feel free to start a new thread if you don’t want to clog up the Meyer thread.
Insert eyes rolling back in head emoji HERE.
Except that according to the reports, the Jags were informed in real time about the incident. While the publicity surrounding the incident is bad, the incident itself, by itself, cannot be the cause. Of course, it can be lumped in with the other conduct that when considered in its totality constitutes cause.
This is just so unsurprising. He is one of the coaches that would berate student newspaper reporters for asking difficult questions. To me, that attitude presaged what happened to him here. As did "I have to get out for my heart so I can live for my family" until Ohio State came calling.
That or IK’s username.Seems like "kicks or it didn't happen" was the tell. You need to upgrade the OS of your detector. It's wildly out of date.
Reading the accounts of the story it was brought home how difficult and unpleasant the job of general counsel of the Jags must be. I hope it pays well. It sounds like she probably tried to handle it all the right way but is inside an organization of children that does what they want and was quick to let her hang out to dry. Again, she’s probably highly compensated, but that seems miserable.
Byron Leftwich would be my first choice
Don't sleep on Josh McDaniels. I know it seems far fetched, but he would be starting in a place with a young QB who was thought highly enough to be drafted #1. Unless McDaniels thinks Trevor is a bust (and he may), he may view the job as a chance to go to a place where he'll have a couple of years to develop Lawrence while working with the GM to rebuild the OL and defense.
"Adults manipulating young men. Education is like the last thing right now." How is this any different than before?
Byron Leftwich seems like he should be at the top of the list, IMO. He has a ring, plus a history with Jax. And to my knowledge, therehavent been any rumblings of any negatives in his closet.
That's really something. I mean, with all this public information about Meyer and his actions it is amazing that his kid wrote this. I can only imagine what we do not know.
Someone else might get to do the manipulating, and someone other than Dabo might reap the financial benefits.
How old is the person who wrote that? I'm assuming based on Meyer's age this is an adult child which makes it pretty cringe-worthy.
