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Yeah I think Nationally from what I've seen most people have 3 good openings (NE, JAX, CHI) and rate NE as the best. CHI has the division, but also the worst owner concerns McCaskey is ONE HUNDRED AND TWO years old... when she dies he ownership will be split something like 15 ways with nobody owning more than 10%
If Baalke wasn’t in JAX, that would be the best but he’s awful and Khan seems committed to keeping him forever for some reason

Wolf seems terrible but Baalke is actually terrible. Kraft is cheap and meddlesome but that’s weirdly less worrisome than the Bears’ ownership situation. So id say by default, yeah the Pats have the “best” of those situations
 

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Re: McDaniels - I don't think he is a bad coach necessarily, but it seems like a number of media types (esp the TV guys) fawn over him in a way I don't get. Like, he is overrated but not because he is bad; more like he is mediocre to fine but some media guys pump him up like he's the next McVay.
Re: Pierce - I thought he was already gone too. Will be interesting what the Krafts do if Vrabel leverages the threat of going to LV against the Pats and how much they are willing to sweeten the pot.
Are you talking about Josh McDaniels or Mike McDaniel?
 

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Can’t imagine that they would. Even if he’s still technically under contract, the other team wouldn’t want to give a pick for him.
He's talking about the compensatory picks the league gives to teams who have a Rooney compliant assistant coach or executive signed by another team... but the new team has to be making them the HC or Primary Executive.
 

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He's talking about the compensatory picks the league gives to teams who have a Rooney compliant assistant coach or executive signed by another team... but the new team has to be making them the HC or Primary Executive.
Oooohhhh. My bad.
 

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my rank of the 6 jobs
1 NE div where u can be 2nd right away 130 under the cap improve the off and they couild win 7-9 games next season

2 Jax lawrence is a good qb div is very winnable no media this is the pefect job for bill

3 no i am scared david shaw is a stong cand here winnable div i would hire gruen
4 nyj a mess idk how they get better it wouild be funny for rex to be the coach
5 chi williams might be a bust ownship is very cheap but there is hope detroit might lose both OC and DC Vikings couild regress next year GB will not have watison for at least 8-10 weeks next season

6 vegas lol as long as mark davis owns this year best case is 9-8 10-7 but for the next 2-3 years they are looking at 1-5 in the afc west which means to make the playoffs they have to go 9-2 at worse in non div games
 

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my rank of the 6 jobs

4 nyj a mess idk how they get better it wouild be funny for rex to be the coach
I would flip Jesters and Saints. I think we have more money and talent. Neither owner is anything to write home about.

The D can be fixed easily, they have the expensive guys.

Oline if healthy could be really good. The Penn State kid was a wall at LT, better than I expected. Huge improvement when he played and drop off when he got hurt. It was only 3 or 4 game where he came in and everyone was healthy and it was better pass pro than I have seen in years.

QB we’re fucked.
 

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saints have better ownship they give their coaches time with your coach last before he got fired i think u win 3 extra games
 

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saints have better ownship they give their coaches time with your coach last before he got fired i think u win 3 extra games
Saleh was given too much time. 3 years plus this season. GM had 5 years I think.
 

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Sanders wants to be in Vegas, working with/for Brady, who he is already close to. Now with Pierce gone, both father and son are a possibility.

Don't be surprised if Deion and Shedeur pull a Elway/Manning and tell other teams Shedeur won't play for them.
as long as the g-man dont take him at 3 or tenn at 1 he will be at 6
deion is staying in college got a commint from the num 2 QB in the 25 class
vrabel can play hardball with ne now if he wants because of vegas but that job is a no win serio for at least 3-5 years and if nix is a top 10 qb then its toxic for 10-12 years
 

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If so let's hope both him and Milroe pop at the combine and this turns into a 4 QB draft.

If Brady is actively involved, I think LV gets interesting. He won't want to just sit around and watch the team struggle.
The challenge is going to be breaking through in a division where the other teams have excellent coaches and strong QB situations, especially if Nix ends up being the guy in Denver.
 

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In the least surprising news story of this cycle…Sounds Tom made some calls too


I highly highly doubt he changes his mind … but I can’t imagine making recruiting pitches to HS kids is really his thing.
 

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In the least surprising news story of this cycle…Sounds Tom made some calls too


I highly highly doubt he changes his mind … but I can’t imagine making recruiting pitches to HS kids is really his thing.
I think Flores would be a better fit for the Raiders job if they are looking for a defensive head coach who can coach many years unlike BB.
 

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BB coaching in Vegas is like Ocean's 15,

Let's round-up the old gang, Tommy, Ernie, Josh, Matt, Mikey, and knock over the joint and take Davis for every dime he got.
 
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In the least surprising news story of this cycle…Sounds Tom made some calls too


I highly highly doubt he changes his mind … but I can’t imagine making recruiting pitches to HS kids is really his thing.
Yet another reason why BBs decision was so odd: timing. The UNC job would likely have been open to him in Jan/Feb if he continued to feign interest. And he could have gotten an actual feel for his NFL market instead of speculating. So strange.
 

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Yet another reason why BBs decision was so odd: timing. The UNC job would likely have been open to him in Jan/Feb if he continued to feign interest. And he could have gotten an actual feel for his NFL market instead of speculating. So strange.
I was just going to say the same exact thing. I don’t get it.
 

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Bill Belichick's buyout has concerned people at UNC since the ink was dry, and $10M before June 1 has not concerned anyone in the NFL since the ink was dry.
 

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Yet another reason why BBs decision was so odd: timing. The UNC job would likely have been open to him in Jan/Feb if he continued to feign interest. And he could have gotten an actual feel for his NFL market instead of speculating. So strange.
If you are willing to say "fuck dem kids" if the NFL comes calling, signing with UNC with an opt-out and having that as your lead option unless the NFL suddenly changes its collective tune seems smart.
 

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Yeah. That buy out was put there for a reason.
Of course but he could have run this leverage play with less collateral damage. Unless he told UNC in the negotiation that's there's a good chance he excerises the option this year and they decided to take the chance anyways. I want him back in the NFL but it all seems unnecessary to me to go through this rigamarole. Hopefully (for UNC) the boosters are keeping him away from cocktail napkins.
 

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Unfortunately I think that is it. Also just reviewed some of the weirdness of the rule and how it extends to QB coach. I get it, but damn does the NFL like to make things complicated:

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/inclusion/the-rooney-rule/
I don’t think it’s all that complicated — it’s a remedial rule designed to combat discrimination in areas where people of color are pervasively underrepresented (and also women, but only as to front-office roles, as it’s widely understood that playing experience at the collegiate level or above is a prerequisite for virtually all coaching jobs). The rule doesn’t extend to most position coaches because those roles have been historically held by people of color at rates comparable to their presence in the talent pool (i.e., people who have played college football at some level).

From my limited perspective, it seems to me that the league’s problems with underrepresentation are concentrated in positions where owners are involved in decision-making; for lower-level positions where owners usually aren’t involved, there doesn’t seem to be a pervasive problem. This suggests that the owners are the problem — their biases, unconscious or otherwise, are leading to underrepresentation. There’s only so much the league can do to address that, but I think the Rooney Rule is reasonably designed to have an impact — it’s not going to out racist owners, but it should help owners who aren’t consciously biased make better decisions by ensuring they cast a wide net before making key hiring decisions.
 

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I was a bit depressed when Brady left. Sad when Bill left. But I would fucking love Bill coaching for Tom.

On a year to year contract, LOL.
 

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Saw Jordan Schultz asked about this, and he basically said he'd be shocked. Bill has been hitting the portal, he's flying/driving around the country with Steve hitting the recruiting trail hard... all indications are he really wants to try this.
I may be in the minority but I feel like this could be a lot of fun for BB. He has total control, he is likely going to paid more than any of his players and if he succeeds he will beloved by a whole new set of fans.

Wrestling with the NFL machine has its own charms but at this spot he can implement his vision fully. Given what we have seen to date, it doesn't seem like any NFL teams would offer him that sort of power.
 

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I may be in the minority but I feel like this could be a lot of fun for BB. He has total control, he is likely going to paid more than any of his players and if he succeeds he will beloved by a whole new set of fans.
I totally agree with this, especially at a place like UNC where expectations are quite different than at Alabama, etc.