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luckiestman

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Yeah saw the KOC thing, he implied it was that KOC wanted to be paid like a top coach and the Vikings might not do it...... that seems like an INSANE thing for an owner to do, cheap out at HC when even the highest paid is what... 18M? 20M?
Insane, I hope Ambassador Johnson trades for him
 

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NE fans would besiege Patriots Place if the Krafts did this. Amazing how fast Colts fans have turned back into pumpkins.
Retaining Ballard is indefensible. I don't care much for him, but Pat MacAfee is going to spend all of next season absolutely crushing that organization.
 

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Retaining Ballard is indefensible. I don't care much for him, but Pat MacAfee is going to spend all of next season absolutely crushing that organization.
I think the opposite, Steichen appears to have lost the lockerroom. Ballard has a lot of good drafts/signings... he just can;t get the QB right, you could fire him for that for sure, but keeping him is pretty defensible.
 

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Ballard's been GM since the 2016 playoffs, he's drafted some highlight players but has yet to build a team that can compete. Steichen's second year seemed worse than his first, I don't think that's a trajectory you can stick with these days. And if Ballard is out they should have the new GM get their preferred coach anyway.
 

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Doug Pederson fired per Schefter
That job is attractive. Would not be surprised if it's the one Johnson takes. Out of the limelight, decent talent, good owner (although has made some questionable hiring decisions), weakish division and of course a QB to build with.
 

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Anarumo was a darkhorse HC candidate last year. What a difference a year makes.
He was the finalist for the Arizona job two years ago, but they had a bad year last year and a worse one this year. I think he's still a good mind, but he couldn't overcome the losses of Jessie Bates last year and DJ Reader this year and was way too loyal to washed veterans.
 

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I know there were rumors to the contrary, but I never understood them in McDaniel’s case. I have a hard time blaming him for the fins missing the playoffs in a year where Tua missed the time he did. Organizationally it’s absolute malpractice if they go into another season without a better plan at backup QB (and arguably need to be thinking about Tua’s long term replacement), but would have been a huge error to fire MM in my opinion. Shame they didn’t make it.
 

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He was the finalist for the Arizona job two years ago, but they had a bad year last year and a worse one this year. I think he's still a good mind, but he couldn't overcome the losses of Jessie Bates last year and DJ Reader this year and was way too loyal to washed veterans.
One year off. And you have answered my question as to why NEP wouldn't want him for DC - loyalty to washed veterans has already been tried.
 

luckiestman

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So openings are

Jets
Pats
Jags
Bears
Saints

Waiting on Cowboys, Raiders

Anything else?
 

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Doug Pederson fired per Schefter
That job is attractive. Would not be surprised if it's the one Johnson takes

Does anyone here have a sense of how bad a GM Baalke is? The few Jags fans I know in real life seem to think he's an incompetent train wreck.

Also, my friends may not be representative of Jaguars nation






Makes we wonder how much he might be a pro or con to Johnson (and others) assessment of Jacksonville
 

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I know there were rumors to the contrary, but I never understood them in McDaniel’s case. I have a hard time blaming him for the fins missing the playoffs in a year where Tua missed the time he did. Organizationally it’s absolute malpractice if they go into another season without a better plan at backup QB (and arguably need to be thinking about Tua’s long term replacement), but would have been a huge error to fire MM in my opinion. Shame they didn’t make it.
On the flip side, MM gets a lot of good ink for a guy who has never won a playoff game, had Skylar Thompson throw 45 times in a playoff game in Buffalo, and has a W-L record of only 28-23. I don't think they should fire him either, but he's spinning his wheels right now.
 

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Does anyone here have a sense of how bad a GM Baalke is? The few Jags fans I know in real life seem to think he's an incompetent train wreck.

Also, my friends may not be representative of Jaguars nation






Makes we wonder how much he might be a pro or con to Johnson (and others) assessment of Jacksonville
The general consensus on reddit is that Baalke is an incompetent fool who kisses Khan's ass so he keeps his job. Jags fans there call him Grima Baalketongue.
 

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One year off. And you have answered my question as to why NEP wouldn't want him for DC - loyalty to washed veterans has already been tried.
He's really quite a mystery - he couldn't get a DC job his entire life (he was the Dolphins' interim DC after they fired Philbin and the DC early in 2015) as his last full-time job before the Bengals was for the Merchant Marine Academy in 1994. Awful defense his first two years, then respectable once they added Hendrickson/Reader/Hilton/Awuzie and back to awful the last two years, but he has two crowning achievements in making Mahomes play maybe his worst half ever in the 21 CG and eating Allen's lunch in the 22 Divisional. It's really tough to gauge whether he'll land another NFL DC job.
 

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The general consensus on reddit is that Baalke is an incompetent fool who kisses Khan's ass so he keeps his job. Jags fans there call him Grima Baalketongue.
Baalke is awesome at ass-kissing and bad at evaluating players. He killed the Niners by convincing ownership to favor him v Harbaugh when they butted heads. He won out and promptly drove the team into the ground.
 

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Does anyone here have a sense of how bad a GM Baalke is? The few Jags fans I know in real life seem to think he's an incompetent train wreck.

Also, my friends may not be representative of Jaguars nation






Makes we wonder how much he might be a pro or con to Johnson (and others) assessment of Jacksonville
Niners fan here. Baalke is a terrible GM with bad drafting and roster management. But he's amazing at kissing up to owners. Like HOF level at it.

I watched the Yorks send Harbaugh out despite being the best coach they had since Seifert, all because Trent Baalke is a masterful behind the scenes con man. Once that was finally figured out after putting out the worst roster I've ever seen under Chip Kelley, Baalke was fired, Lynch and Shanahan take over and Niners go back to 2 Super Bowls. The man is an absolute train wreck and cancer.
 

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The Bengals moves smell like the sort of thing a head coach agrees to when he knows he might just get one more season
 

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The Bengals moves smell like the sort of thing a head coach agrees to when he knows he might just get one more season
A coach for no other franchise would see the light of day after missing the playoffs with the passing, receiving and sack leaders but these are the Bengals. Hey, this thing worked for the Eagles and they fired both coordinators (although Zac is the playcaller).
 

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I was thinking of making a GM thread but as it stands now, I read the Jets have the only opening. These NFL GMs sure know how to get one over on owners.
 

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Did anyone take more advantage of a stand-alone moment to enhance his status as a coaching candidate than Aaron Glenn did last night?
 

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On the flip side, MM gets a lot of good ink for a guy who has never won a playoff game, had Skylar Thompson throw 45 times in a playoff game in Buffalo, and has a W-L record of only 28-23. I don't think they should fire him either, but he's spinning his wheels right now.
You really latch on to some of the most inane things and run like hell with them. Miami was down 17 in the early part of the second quarter. Thompson had to throw. Dolphins tied the game with 33 seconds left in the 3Q with one TD and multiple FGs by having Thompson thrown the ball. They then took the lead early in the 4Q on a Buffalo fumble inside their own 10. Then, Buffalo reeled off 2 TD in a 3 minute span, leaving Miami down 10 with 2 minutes to go. Again, Thompson had to throw. Miami's defense was beaten up by a superior offense all game, and you latch onto Thompson throwing the ball. I recognize Thompson was not good in this game, but a conservative offense, and one that you were maligning Mayo over all season, was not going to get it done. Similar to the Pats this year.

You are knocking MM over something he had to do.
 

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Baalke is awesome at ass-kissing and bad at evaluating players. He killed the Niners by convincing ownership to favor him v Harbaugh when they butted heads. He won out and promptly drove the team into the ground.
Niners fan here. Baalke is a terrible GM with bad drafting and roster management. But he's amazing at kissing up to owners. Like HOF level at it.

I watched the Yorks send Harbaugh out despite being the best coach they had since Seifert, all because Trent Baalke is a masterful behind the scenes con man. Once that was finally figured out after putting out the worst roster I've ever seen under Chip Kelley, Baalke was fired, Lynch and Shanahan take over and Niners go back to 2 Super Bowls. The man is an absolute train wreck and cancer.
Bet me to it.

JIm Harbaugh was a heaven sent for the Niners. We can think what we want about Colin Kaepernick but Harbaugh was one play away from winning the Super Bowl with him at the helm.

And BTW it was not only hiring Chip Kelly, but before that they made the worst possible HC hire I have ever seen in Jim Tomsula.

That he got another GM job after we saw the before, after, and after in the 49ers is mind boggling.
 

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You really latch on to some of the most inane things and run like hell with them. Miami was down 17 in the early part of the second quarter. Thompson had to throw. Dolphins tied the game with 33 seconds left in the 3Q with one TD and multiple FGs by having Thompson thrown the ball. They then took the lead early in the 4Q on a Buffalo fumble inside their own 10. Then, Buffalo reeled off 2 TD in a 3 minute span, leaving Miami down 10 with 2 minutes to go. Again, Thompson had to throw. Miami's defense was beaten up by a superior offense all game, and you latch onto Thompson throwing the ball. I recognize Thompson was not good in this game, but a conservative offense, and one that you were maligning Mayo over all season, was not going to get it done. Similar to the Pats this year.

You are knocking MM over something he had to do.
Why were they down 17?

First drive, a run and then 2 incompletes. Punt.
Second drive: down 7-0, a run and then a Thompson INT.
Third drive: down 14-0, run, run pass complete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, punt.

Skylar Thompson stinks. McDaniel deliberately chose to have Thompson come out throwing the ball, and a lot. It was a stupid decision from the beginning of the game, put them in a hole where he had to have Thompson throw the rest of the game, and Thompson went 18 for 45 with 1 TD and 2 INTs so it didn't work.

My point remains: Mike Mcdaniel gets a lot of good ink for being young and hip with good drip, but the amount of good press he gets is incredibly disproportional to his actual NFL achievements. I don't think he should be fired, but at the same time it's probably time for Miami to win a playoff game one of these years.
 

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Why were they down 17?

First drive, a run and then 2 incompletes.
Second drive: down 7-0, a run and then a Thompson INT.
Third drive: down 14-0, run, run pass complete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, punt.

Skylar Thompson stinks. McDaniel deliberately chose to have Thompson come out throwing the ball, and a lot. It was a stupid decision from the beginning of the game, put them in a hole where he had to have Thompson throw the rest of the game, and Thompson went 18 for 45 with 1 TD and 2 INTs so it didn't work.
BB might have had him hand off 50 times that game.
 

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Why were they down 17?

First drive, a run and then 2 incompletes. Punt.
Second drive: down 7-0, a run and then a Thompson INT.
Third drive: down 14-0, run, run pass complete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, pass incomplete, punt.

Skylar Thompson stinks. McDaniel deliberately chose to have Thompson come out throwing the ball, and a lot. It was a stupid decision from the beginning of the game, put them in a hole where he had to have Thompson throw the rest of the game, and Thompson went 18 for 45 with 1 TD and 2 INTs so it didn't work.

My point remains: Mike Mcdaniel gets a lot of good ink for being young and hip with good drip, but the amount of good press he gets is incredibly disproportional to his actual NFL achievements. I don't think he should be fired, but at the same time it's probably time for Miami to win a playoff game one of these years.
Doesn't change the fact the he had to throw. Being conservative was not going to work in a playoff game. Something you went on and on about all year with Mayo.
 

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Doesn't change the fact the he had to throw. Being conservative was not going to work in a playoff game. Something you went on and on about all year with Mayo.
He did not have to throw. Come out with a running, conservative gameplan early, burn clock, limit possessions, etc. He forced himself into a situation where he had to throw late because he stupidly threw early and often with a terrible QB, with predictable results.

I won't belabor the point but McDaniel got far too cute in a playoff game were he was playing shorthanded. No one would have blamed him for losing that game, but he actively made his team worse with his strategic decisions.

Again: McDaniel did not and should not get fired. But he has always been overrated.
 

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He did not have to throw. Come out with a running, conservative gameplan early, burn clock, limit possessions, etc. He forced himself into a situation where he had to throw late because he stupidly threw early and often with a terrible QB, with predictable results.

I won't belabor the point but McDaniel got far too cute in a playoff game were he was playing shorthanded. No one would have blamed him for losing that game, but he actively made his team worse with his strategic decisions.

Again: McDaniel did not and should not get fired. But he has always been overrated.
Right. That 10 rushes for 23 yards was going to get it done. Buffalo was putting 8 guys in the box to stop the run and were very successful. Then, Buffalo's offense scored at will until the 3Q.

I won't belabor the point either, but conservative was not going to get it done. Similar to Mayo this year.

He did have to throw.

This game should have no bearing on any MM related discussion of keeping his job or whether he is overrated.
 

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Right. That 10 rushes for 23 yards was going to get it done. Buffalo was putting 8 guys in the box to stop the run and were very successful. Then, Buffalo's offense scored at will until the 3Q.

I won't belabor the point either, but conservative was not going to get it done. Similar to Mayo this year.

He did have to throw.

This game should have no bearing on any MM related discussion of keeping his job or whether he is overrated.
Of course it should, it's part of his resume, which does not include any playoff wins.

Anyway. Done.
 

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Holding 0 playoff wins against a coach after 3 seasons, 2 of which he didn’t have his starting QB for significant games and the other in which he got dusted by the eventual SB champs feels like definition of small sample size noise to me. They had a legit shot to win the Buffalo game before the defense blew it - I can’t fault him for his handling of Thompson.

They continue to trend downward in 2025, sure, think about heating up the seat, but thus far what he’s done to build an offense around a good but not exceptional QB is a far bigger feather in his cap than two playoff losses is a negative imo.
 

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Seahawks OC Ryan Grubb out after one year where the offense was worse than last year under Shane Waldron. Speaks volumes. I would have given him another year, but in John Schneider I trust.
 

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That job is attractive. Would not be surprised if it's the one Johnson takes. Out of the limelight, decent talent, good owner (although has made some questionable hiring decisions), weakish division and of course a QB to build with.
Khan doesn’t meddle but has made bad hiring decisions. The coaching has been up and down, but the personnel side has been a tire fire for more than a decade. If I’m an in-demand coach like Johnson or Vrabel, I’m only considering Jacksonville if I get to pick the GM.
 

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Khan doesn’t meddle but has made bad hiring decisions. The coaching has been up and down, but the personnel side has been a tire fire for more than a decade. If I’m an in-demand coach like Johnson or Vrabel, I’m only considering Jacksonville if I get to pick the GM.
Unfortunately I think the only hope is if Khan agrees to something like this and gives Baalke another title. A man can hope.
 

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Unfortunately I think the only hope is if Khan agrees to something like this and gives Baalke another title. A man can hope.
If you’re looking for a reason for optimism, Khan is getting less patient. Gus Bradley got a lot more rope than Doug Pederson did.

I can’t believe Baalke is still there. I thought he was brought in to be Urban Meyer’s lackey and figured he was on borrowed time when Meyer imploded. I’m kinda surprised Pederson agreed to work with him.
 

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My point remains: Mike Mcdaniel gets a lot of good ink for being young and hip with good drip, but the amount of good press he gets is incredibly disproportional to his actual NFL achievements. I don't think he should be fired, but at the same time it's probably time for Miami to win a playoff game one of these years.
In a strange way, this emphasizes my point in a the HC Search thread: media management matters (whether you think it should or not). If McDaniels had been out there this year calling his players soft and walking back comments week-to-week, things could have turned out differently right now (again, whether you think that makes sense or not).
 

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If you’re looking for a reason for optimism, Khan is getting less patient. Gus Bradley got a lot more rope than Doug Pederson did.

I can’t believe Baalke is still there. I thought he was brought in to be Urban Meyer’s lackey and figured he was on borrowed time when Meyer imploded. I’m kinda surprised Pederson agreed to work with him.
Saw someone today reporting that they have told HC candidates that they will report directly to the owner..... but Baalke will stay.
 

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If you’re looking for a reason for optimism, Khan is getting less patient. Gus Bradley got a lot more rope than Doug Pederson did.

I can’t believe Baalke is still there. I thought he was brought in to be Urban Meyer’s lackey and figured he was on borrowed time when Meyer imploded. I’m kinda surprised Pederson agreed to work with him.
I was hoping for a Johnson/Agnew combo. Still hoping for Johnson and maybe maybe? Baalke will actually build a roster that more fits a Johnson system