It is TIME! 2025 NFL Coaching Carousel

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This is all I have at this point in the season, so here we go.

Who is absolutely safe:

Hardo
Tomlin
Harbaugh
Demeco
Reid
Harbaugh (bolts)
Payton
Quinn
Dan Campbell
KOC
LaFleur
McVay
Macdonald
Shanny
Gannon

Who is likely safe:

Mayo
McDaniel
Steichen
Callahan
Sirrianni
Morris
Canales

Surprising but on the table

Taylor (Bengals)
Stefanski (Browns)
Bowles (Bucs)

Very likely to certain openings

Jets
Jags
Raiders
Cowboys
Giants (Daboll might hang on)
Bears
Saints


So, this leaves me with 10 possible openings but I think if Stefanski gets fired, he is right back with another team.

Now, who are the candidates?

We have high reason to believe these guys are in the mix:
BB
Flores
Stefanski(if fired)
Vrabel
Ben Johnsons (assuming he wants to coach)

Everybody mentions the guys above.

Tampa could fire Bowles to elevate Liam Coen, I think Coen gets interviews.
Kliff could get looks
Aaron Glenn probably gets at least a Jets interview

Is Pete Carroll too old? Seems like he could be more of a front office guy at this point.

Other guys that might be reasonable

Vance Joseph
Monken
Coach Prime

All the other coordinators, I don't know. I don;t know who has buzz and a good agent

Who is coaching in college that has a shot at a pro job? What coordinators am I missing? Who else?
 
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The Eagles are 8-2 but I think Sirianni will basically constantly be on the hot seat.

Daboll is interesting. The Giants are sitting Jones so it's obvious they are cutting him and starting over at QB. Daboll has an offensive background, do they consider keeping him around to work with a new QB or do they start fresh on both QB and coach?
 

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The Eagles are 8-2 but I think Sirianni will basically constantly be on the hot seat.

Daboll is interesting. The Giants are sitting Jones so it's obvious they are cutting him and starting over at QB. Daboll has an offensive background, do they consider keeping him around to work with a new QB or do they start fresh on both QB and coach?

I think those are two of the more interesting discussions. I actually prefer Daboll but results are results. Seems like Sirrianni is getting a ton of help from the front office and his assistants which if it works it works.
 

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I think those are two of the more interesting discussions. I actually prefer Daboll but results are results. Seems like Sirrianni is getting a ton of help from the front office and his assistants which if it works it works.
Yeah, I'm not sure what I'd do if I was the Giants. On the one hand, Daboll is the guy who developed Josh Allen which is a huge feather in his cap and a guy you'd want with a young QB. On the other hand retaining him could lead to a Bears type situation with a hot seat coach is paired with a rookie QB and if it doesn't work out you're changing coaches on the young QB immediately. I think I'd probably move on but it's a tough call.

Sirianni is bound to have some 4th down decision or game management fuck up in a key spot that will lead to all of Philly wanting to murder him. I feel like the only way the heat turns down is if they win a Super Bowl and even then who knows.
 

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A tangential fun consideration -- what teams might have the assets and interest to pull off a Deion-Shedeur package deal? Assume that Shedeur is going top 3.

Dallas is the obvious choice, but Dak has a no-trade, so unless Deion is OK sitting his son for a couple of years (or until Dak gets hurt again), Dallas might be out.
Cleveland likely will have the #1 pick, and is probably willing to fire their coach, but I can't see Deion willingly moving to Cleveland.
Trevor Lawrence has a no-trade, so Jax is out.
The Maras and Johnsons seem unlikely to be interested in getting into business with Deion.
The Pats have a QB.
Callahan and Canales are awfully new to their jobs to get the heave-ho already.

So for teams likely to wind up in the top ten (and therefore having the assets needed to draft/move up to draft Shedeur), I'd say Vegas and New Orleans are the best bets to pull off the Sanders double.

Separately, I think BB to the Bears or Jax makes the most sense. He's a loyal guy and will not want to stab Daboll in the back by even hinting that he's interested in the NYG. And he's not going to work for Brady in Vegas, is never going to go to the Jets, and Jerry will never cede enough power for him to go to Dallas (though could this year's results will be enough to convince Jerry to let go of the reins?).
 

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If Marvin made it 16 years with no playoff wins, I can't imagine Zac is canned two years after winning his fifth in two years, especially when he has two years left on his deal and Burrow was only fully healthy this year. I'd love to be wrong though.
 

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If Marvin made it 16 years with no playoff wins, I can't imagine Zac is canned two years after winning his fifth in two years, especially when he has two years left on his deal and Burrow was only fully healthy this year. I'd love to be wrong though.
It’s such a shit result with a QB playing at an elite level. There record is almost as bad as the Jets but they seem like they are twice as good.
 

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Very likely to certain openings

Jets
Jags
Raiders
Cowboys
Giants (Daboll might hang on)
Bears
Saints

So, I started going down this road in the other thread, but another angle on this topic is: who is on these staffs that might be available as soon as the season ends and that we might want to poach?

If Stefanski gets fired in Cleveland (which sounds pretty probable) then I'd love to poach Jim Schwartz for a "defensive advisor" if not DC. Same with Ryan Nielsen if there's a big shake up in Jacksonville. My impression is that Nielsen did a good job with not a lot of talent in Atlanta.

If something unexpected happens and Brian Callahan gets booted from Tennessee, I'd love to try and get his dad Bill to come to New England as our offensive line coach

My friends who are Bengals fans in the real world seem to think that Darrin Simmons is a fantastic special teams coach. If there's a big shake up it would taking a look at whether he wants a change of scenery
 

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It’s such a shit result with a QB playing at an elite level. There record is almost as bad as the Jets but they seem like they are twice as good.
Oh, of course. He should've been fired after running three times in OT against Baltimore and settling for a long FG attempt. Even Sunday, he kicked on 4th and 2 at the 13 with Joe Burrow and an awful defense. If he's fired, there's no way he's getting a HC job and I doubt he's getting an OC job at this level.
 

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My friends who are Bengals fans in the real world seem to think that Darrin Simmons is a fantastic special teams coach. If there's a big shake up it would taking a look at whether he wants a change of scenery
Fantastic is probably a little much. They don't have terrible breakdowns (bad snaps, blocked kicks) but the FG operation this year is clearly off, they don't trust the kick coverage unit enough to cover kicks (or McPherson to put it in the right spot) and they cycled through three different bad punters (including a draft pick) before finally finding one after an injury to one of the busts. Like many things with the Bengals, a change of scenery might be best for both parties.
 

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Oh, of course. He should've been fired after running three times in OT against Baltimore and settling for a long FG attempt. Even Sunday, he kicked on 4th and 2 at the 13 with Joe Burrow and an awful defense. If he's fired, there's no way he's getting a HC job and I doubt he's getting an OC job at this level.
It's the slow starts to seasons that get me, as someone who roots for them secondarily. Taylor's teams have gone 8-15-1 over the first four games in his six years. If you want to discard the dreadful first season, it's still 8-11-1, which seems to speak to just not being ready to start a season.
 

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It's the slow starts to seasons that get me, as someone who roots for them secondarily. Taylor's teams have gone 8-15-1 over the first four games in his six years. If you want to discard the dreadful first season, it's still 8-11-1, which seems to speak to just not being ready to start a season.
Yeah, they definitely run way more of a country club offseason and preseason than under Marvin. It’s a little tough to tell since they were breaking in a rookie QB without a real offseason in 2020 and Burrow wasn’t 100% in 22-23, but losing at home to this Pats team Week 1 this year is inexcusable (and they had a ton of missed tackles which suggests a team not ready to play).

You just cannot waste Burrow/Chase/Hendrickson seasons like this. Unfortunately, I highly doubt they’ll fire him and I don’t think top candidates would work for this ownership even with Burrow and Chase in place.
 

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Why would anyone take the Raiders job? Davis sucks, and he listens to the players. I know it is an NFL job and these guys have huge egos but that team is doomed until Brady usurps Davis in 5-10 years.
 

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If it comes open, would the Bears be the best of that sorry lot of jobs?
 

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I think those are two of the more interesting discussions. I actually prefer Daboll but results are results. Seems like Sirrianni is getting a ton of help from the front office and his assistants which if it works it works.
That's pretty much been the structure since he was hired. He's been tabbed as a 'CEO coach'. It worked in 2022, failed miserably last season and looks very good so far this year.

Howie has loaded that team with so much talent that all Sirianni has to do is stay out of his own way. Unfortunately, he has been a very mixed bag on that front this season.
 

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If it comes open, would the Bears be the best of that sorry lot of jobs?
Giants job is pretty good if Daboll is canned. Well-respected owner that doesn’t meddle, Nabers, Tracy and a good defense and what’s likely to be a top pick. It is shaping up to be a very tough division, though and the market is obviously not kind to losing seasons.
 

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Buff - likely safe but if buff loses before the AFC tittie game he couild be gone - bill wouild be pefect here goes up aga NYJ NE 2X has a qb
NYJ who knows someone young or rex ryan
MIA more likely for 2026

North
Cle likely someone young brlan floles couild be in play here

South
Jax bill best shot or someone young

West
Vegas most likely K Kingbusy or V Joseph

Dal mike zimmer is in the lead here jerry wants a yes man above all else unlees jerry gets deion 1% chance
NYG i think dayboll is back for 25

Chi going to be someone young i say kingbusy Arizona OC

NO i think rizzi gets a 1 year shot in 25

SF there is always a shocker kyle couild go if things happen i couild see bill here wouild be the pefect fit

my gussies
Buff stayes for 25
NYJ rex ryan or ryan grubb sea oc
cle brian foles
jax bill b or a guy like ben johnson
vegas vance joseph is the leader here he is a player coach will birtz etc
Dal mike zimmer been a cowboy asst since the mid 90's
chi kingbury or IF kyle S get let go by SF
SF if bill does not mind the west coast for 3-4 years SF is pefect for his career
 

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Cincy is the best job. I know there are organizational hurdles but Burrow is the closest thing to Brady out there today. With a three-four year window I don't think Bill wants to develop a QB. Would be fun if that could work out. Barring that I think it's Jax. Chicago a long shot. I think they'll really try for Johnson.
 

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Shad Khan might give BB full control of the tire fire in Jacksonville, but any other team will insist that he coexist with a real GM. I wonder if he’s willing to do that.
 

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Cincy is the best job. I know there are organizational hurdles but Burrow is the closest thing to Brady out there today. With a three-four year window I don't think Bill wants to develop a QB. Would be fun if that could work out. Barring that I think it's Jax. Chicago a long shot. I think they'll really try for Johnson.
Bill and Mike Brown have good relationship, what with Bill’s worship of Paul Brown. I could see it, though I think if he’s handed the keys to the kingdom in Jacksonville - who will probably spend some serious money, unlike Cincy - he’s gonna take his talents to Duval.
 

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Bill and Mike Brown have good relationship, what with Bill’s worship of Paul Brown. I could see it, though I think if he’s handed the keys to the kingdom in Jacksonville - who will probably spend some serious money, unlike Cincy - he’s gonna take his talents to Duval.
Moving on to Cincinnati should only be done under duress.
 

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Why would anyone take the Raiders job? Davis sucks, and he listens to the players. I know it is an NFL job and these guys have huge egos but that team is doomed until Brady usurps Davis in 5-10 years.
The Raiders future ownership situation feels like a wild mess just waiting to happen. IIRC, the Davis’ only own 47% of the team, with the rest spread out between various minority owners. TB and his group bought in for 10% stake, but it’s not clear if that came out of Davis’ end.
 
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Well, I feel like the logical next step is to rank the openings.I’ll play with the 10 I identified earlier and go

1. Cincinatti
2. Bears (if you like Caleb, I’m not sold yet but I’m not breaking down tape)
3. Jags (If you like Lawrence, great, if not you can gamble on a QB and trade Lawrence if new contract allows, I don’t know details).

Man, it is getting ugly fast.

4. Cowboys? A lot of problems but Dak is ok.
5. Bucs, maybe above Cowboys, I think this is Bowles or Coen though.
6. Jets probably, a shitshow but some talent. Idk, depends on the deal
7. Giants
8. Raiders
9. Saints
10. Browns


Some of these could move around. Best I can do without going into cap detail.

If I start trying to match things up it looks like:

Cincy doesn’t fire

Ben or Kliff to Bears

BB to Jags

Flores to Cowboys

Bucs really depends if they think Coen will leave. Idk.

Jets, don’t know if Woody will give control to someone like Vrabel or if Vrabel would take this job. Could be Aaron Glenn. The high comedy would be bringing Rex in and keeping Arod.

Giants this could be Vrabel if not Daboll. How many Pats guys can Giants hire?

Wild card is Stefanski to any of the above teams. I don’t really know whom the Raiders or Saints would target.

I’m also curious if anyone besides Prime could make the jump from college to get away from NIL nonsense.
 
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Is Pete Carroll too old? Seems like he could be more of a front office guy at this point.
I can guarantee Pete doesn't think he's too old. It comes down to where he'd want to go. The Saints would be an intriguing possibility if they could get out of salary cap hell, but I think they are at least 2 years from that. He won't get a West Coast job. He could go to the Raiders assuming they give him the front office power the Seahawks gave him (that he probably doesn't deserve at this point). Cowboys are another possibility if he can give up personnel control because we all know Jerrah loves a name. Khan could throw him an obscene amount of money to go to Jax I guess. Jets are out. Personally, I think Daboll survives, so Giants are out. I don't think the Bears would be a good fit because they'll want an offensive coach.

A tangential fun consideration -- what teams might have the assets and interest to pull off a Deion-Shedeur package deal? Assume that Shedeur is going top 3.

Dallas is the obvious choice, but Dak has a no-trade, so unless Deion is OK sitting his son for a couple of years (or until Dak gets hurt again), Dallas might be out.
Cleveland likely will have the #1 pick, and is probably willing to fire their coach, but I can't see Deion willingly moving to Cleveland.
Trevor Lawrence has a no-trade, so Jax is out.
The Maras and Johnsons seem unlikely to be interested in getting into business with Deion.
The Pats have a QB.
Callahan and Canales are awfully new to their jobs to get the heave-ho already.

So for teams likely to wind up in the top ten (and therefore having the assets needed to draft/move up to draft Shedeur), I'd say Vegas and New Orleans are the best bets to pull off the Sanders double.

Separately, I think BB to the Bears or Jax makes the most sense. He's a loyal guy and will not want to stab Daboll in the back by even hinting that he's interested in the NYG. And he's not going to work for Brady in Vegas, is never going to go to the Jets, and Jerry will never cede enough power for him to go to Dallas (though could this year's results will be enough to convince Jerry to let go of the reins?).
And with Deion already on record as wanting Shedeur to pull an Eli Manning if he has to, he could be a serious contender at an organization double dip. Using the Tankathon standings as of now:

Jags - out because they are tied to Lawrence
Titans - maybe? do they really believe in Levis?
Browns - out because of Watson, and shit organization
Giants - Deion loves the spotlight, but he had a pretty bitter ending with the Yankees, so he might not want to go there
Raiders - probably the favorite
Pats - no
Jets - same as the Giants, except a much shittier football organization
Panthers - no fucking way he would want to deal with that ownership, especially if they'd have to sell their future again to get Shedeur
Cowboys - no, stuck with Dak
Saints - probably second favorite, but cap issues make it less appealing


NYJ rex ryan or ryan grubb sea oc
Grubb still has a lot to prove in the NFL. If the Seahawks offense becomes top 5 in the next couple of years, he'll definitely get a shot.
 

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I’m also curious if anyone besides Prime could make the jump from college to get away from NIL nonsense.
I think I read somewhere that Urban Meyer is the only head coach in the last five years hired directly from college. Given how awesome that worked out for Jacksonville.... I cant imagine NFL teams are going to be too anxious to go that route, but maybe if Ole Miss finishes strong, Kiffin get another crack at an NFL HC job.

This piece suggests Marcus Freeman and Dan Lanning might draw some interest.
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10144145-nfl-rumors-notre-dames-marcus-freeman-on-the-radar-as-possible-hc-candidate
 

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If I’m an owner in need, I’m backing up the truck for Ben Johnson.
It would certainly be a highly lauded hire, and would fire up the fan base for a year. But count me as one who doesn't think Ben Johnson is a slam dunk. For every coordinator that becomes a solid head coach there seems to be 5 who flame out in epic fashion. We don't need to look any further than Josh McDaniels to see that being a top-tier OC may not translate to HC success.

But yeah, it'd be a big PR win and I suspect most owners care more about that than most anything else.
 

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I think I read somewhere that Urban Meyer is the only head coach in the last five years hired directly from college. Given how awesome that worked out for Jacksonville.... I cant imagine NFL teams are going to be too anxious to go that route, but maybe if Ole Miss finishes strong, Kiffin get another crack at an NFL HC job.
I assumed they mean from college without any NFL experience. Otherwise, you just had Harbaugh last year. Kiffin would be a similar to that route albeit with less success on the way.

You also have Rhule in 2020. I think he only had a single season on the Giants staff before returning to college as a HC.

Kingsbury was probably the last guy before Meyer without any NFL coaching experience.
 

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If it comes open, would the Bears be the best of that sorry lot of jobs?
For sure. Williams is an incredible talent - he makes throws that only few NFL QBs can. The cap situation is excellent with a projected $82m in space this off season with only 2 key contributors heading to free agency - Keenan Allen, who would be a luxury to retain with Moore & Odunze leading the WR corps, & Teven Jenkins, who is still a work in progress 4 years in. The draft pick cupboard is well stocked - 1st, 2 x 2nd, 3rd, 2 x 5th, 2 x 6th. It's a very good set up.
 
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It would certainly be a highly lauded hire, and would fire up the fan base for a year. But count me as one who doesn't think Ben Johnson is a slam dunk. For every coordinator that becomes a solid head coach there seems to be 5 who flame out in epic fashion. We don't need to look any further than Josh McDaniels to see that being a top-tier OC may not translate to HC success.

But yeah, it'd be a big PR win and I suspect most owners care more about that than most anything else.
agreed, the vast majority of hot shot coordinators fail spectacularly as head coaches. It’s amusing to see so many people assume Johnson is going to work out.

he’s had a very good QB, excellent #1 WR, best OL in football and a lot of nice complementary pieces with which to work. It’s easy to look like an offensive guru that crew. I’m skeptical he could replicate that success somewhere else.
 

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agreed, the vast majority of hot shot coordinators fail spectacularly as head coaches. It’s amusing to see so many people assume Johnson is going to work out.

he’s had a very good QB, excellent #1 WR, best OL in football and a lot of nice complementary pieces with which to work. It’s easy to look like an offensive guru that crew. I’m skeptical he could replicate that success somewhere else.
True. You could also say he took a QB that was seemingly a throw-in on a bigger trade, a 2nd year WR and an offensive line that had an incoming 1st round LT and a very good Center and made it into the best offense in the league in two years. Adding in Montgomery, Gibbs, LaPorta and Williamson certainly didn't hurt.

He may well not be a great head coach, no doubt, but I like his creativity and think he'll do great. He kind of reminds me of a better Shane Steichen - a guy that had tremendous talent on his team AND made it work. The Eagles offensive struggles since he's left kind of make the point. Hurts specifically has really regressed.
 

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Sheil Kapadia raised an unusual name on his podcast - Steve Spagnuolo. It seemed like a not-terrible idea until:

- I remembered that Vic Fangio's Denver experience might preclude another longtime defensive coordinator from being given a shot, and
- I read this on Wikipedia:
Spagnuolo was fired on January 2, 2012, after compiling a 10–38 overall record in his three seasons in St. Louis, the second-lowest winning percentage for a non-interim coach in franchise history
 

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Spags was a terrible head coach. Could he do a better job second time around? Maybe if he had strong coordinators. I wouldn’t do it.
 

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Sheil Kapadia raised an unusual name on his podcast - Steve Spagnuolo. It seemed like a not-terrible idea until:

- I remembered that Vic Fangio's Denver experience might preclude another longtime defensive coordinator from being given a shot, and
- I read this on Wikipedia:
It's been a decade, but also...
Went 1-15 with the worst roster in the league his 1st year (Somebody named Keith Null started 4 games at QB), year 2 he went 7-9 with rookie Sam Bradford, fell apart year 3, dropping to 2-14 in large part because the offense (under OC Josh McDaniels, with Bradford/AJ Feely/Kellen Clemens splitting the QB starts).

Spags would probably need a really good OC and some talent in place. Doubt anyone does it though
 
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True. You could also say he took a QB that was seemingly a throw-in on a bigger trade, a 2nd year WR and an offensive line that had an incoming 1st round LT and a very good Center and made it into the best offense in the league in two years. Adding in Montgomery, Gibbs, LaPorta and Williamson certainly didn't hurt.

He may well not be a great head coach, no doubt, but I like his creativity and think he'll do great. He kind of reminds me of a better Shane Steichen - a guy that had tremendous talent on his team AND made it work. The Eagles offensive struggles since he's left kind of make the point. Hurts specifically has really regressed.
I think Brad Holmes is the real MVP here, Goff has mostly been in Detroit what he was with the Rams (2017-2018, 2020 are more or less on par with his Detroit results, although his completion % has improved).

Generally speaking though, I would avoid hot shot coordinators who haven’t made things work with mediocre talent. Too many of these guys make big names for themselves being able to turn great players into a great offense (or defense) and then go somewhere without those pieces and struggle mightily. Josh McDaniels is an obvious example but there’s dozens of them.

If he goes somewhere like Chicago (assuming Williams doesn’t flop), I could see him having success. But if he ends up with the Raiders or something, it could get ugly fast.
 

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reading the nfl artie let me re do this
Billis their coach will be back if for some reason he is not bill is in play
jets rex or mike krfka or brian johnson wash oc
browns liam coen joe brady or mike vrabel
jax bill or jeese minter or ben johnson
indy could happen but more likely for 26
vegas vance joseph or kellen moore or bobby slowix
dal mike zimmer or kellen moore
NYG dayboll stayies for 25
Chi ben johnson as long as the bears can wait utill feb 9th if not kingbusry or joe brady
TB bowles will get 1 more year
Car their coach will get 2025
2 shockers
rams if mcbay retires look for liam coen to replace him
4fers if shannen is fried its Bill or robert shleh ex jets hc

my 1 guess per team
Jets mike krfka
brows mike vrabel
jax bill or if he wants too much $$ jeese minter
vegas bobby slowix
dal kellen moore
chi kingbusy
sf bill or robert shlah if they fire kyle

if jax says no this time bill career as a coach likely over
 

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reading the nfl artie let me re do this
Billis their coach will be back if for some reason he is not bill is in play
jets rex or mike krfka or brian johnson wash oc
browns liam coen joe brady or mike vrabel
jax bill or jeese minter or ben johnson
indy could happen but more likely for 26
vegas vance joseph or kellen moore or bobby slowix
dal mike zimmer or kellen moore
NYG dayboll stayies for 25
Chi ben johnson as long as the bears can wait utill feb 9th if not kingbusry or joe brady
TB bowles will get 1 more year
Car their coach will get 2025
2 shockers
rams if mcbay retires look for liam coen to replace him
4fers if shannen is fried its Bill or robert shleh ex jets hc

my 1 guess per team
Jets mike krfka
brows mike vrabel
jax bill or if he wants too much $$ jeese minter
vegas bobby slowix
dal kellen moore
chi kingbusy
sf bill or robert shlah if they fire kyle

if jax says no this time bill career as a coach likely over
Hang on, if you have the Browns with a new coach, Stefanski has to slot somewhere.

What about your guy Vance?
 
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reading the nfl artie let me re do this
Billis their coach will be back if for some reason he is not bill is in play
jets rex or mike krfka or brian johnson wash oc
browns liam coen joe brady or mike vrabel
jax bill or jeese minter or ben johnson
indy could happen but more likely for 26
vegas vance joseph or kellen moore or bobby slowix
dal mike zimmer or kellen moore
NYG dayboll stayies for 25
Chi ben johnson as long as the bears can wait utill feb 9th if not kingbusry or joe brady
TB bowles will get 1 more year
Car their coach will get 2025
2 shockers
rams if mcbay retires look for liam coen to replace him
4fers if shannen is fried its Bill or robert shleh ex jets hc

my 1 guess per team
Jets mike krfka
brows mike vrabel
jax bill or if he wants too much $$ jeese minter
vegas bobby slowix
dal kellen moore
chi kingbusy
sf bill or robert shlah if they fire kyle

if jax says no this time bill career as a coach likely over
This year has been disappointing, but I think Shanahan has a long leash in SF. He definitely won't be gone this year.
 

j-man

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Hang on, if you have the Browns with a new coach, Stefanski has to slit somewhere.

What about your guy Vance?
i doubt vance will go anywhere expect maybe to vegas family likes that area i think for vance to get atother job he needed denver to be a top 3 def in 25 as well stefanski will be a OC for someone
 

j-man

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This year has been disappointing, but I think Shanahan has a long leash in SF. He definitely won't be gone this year.
u should be right but having to pay brock p 55-60 mil a year and losing 2 solid players to do that when his mancrush kirk C of ATL would only make around 30 milion a year if they brought in cousins his dream QB has said as much
its a 1% chance but if i was jed i wouild bring in bill barring a deep playoff run
 

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A tangential fun consideration -- what teams might have the assets and interest to pull off a Deion-Shedeur package deal? Assume that Shedeur is going top 3.

Dallas is the obvious choice, but Dak has a no-trade, so unless Deion is OK sitting his son for a couple of years (or until Dak gets hurt again), Dallas might be out.
Cleveland likely will have the #1 pick, and is probably willing to fire their coach, but I can't see Deion willingly moving to Cleveland.
Trevor Lawrence has a no-trade, so Jax is out.
The Maras and Johnsons seem unlikely to be interested in getting into business with Deion.
The Pats have a QB.
Callahan and Canales are awfully new to their jobs to get the heave-ho already.

So for teams likely to wind up in the top ten (and therefore having the assets needed to draft/move up to draft Shedeur), I'd say Vegas and New Orleans are the best bets to pull off the Sanders double.

Separately, I think BB to the Bears or Jax makes the most sense. He's a loyal guy and will not want to stab Daboll in the back by even hinting that he's interested in the NYG. And he's not going to work for Brady in Vegas, is never going to go to the Jets, and Jerry will never cede enough power for him to go to Dallas (though could this year's results will be enough to convince Jerry to let go of the reins?).
I guess I just don't get the Sanders thing. 80% of his strength seems to be using his influence to recruit talent to his team. That may work with 17 year old kids, but NFL players under a salary cap aren't going to give a shit.
 

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I guess I just don't get the Sanders thing. 80% of his strength seems to be using his influence to recruit talent to his team. That may work with 17 year old kids, but NFL players under a salary cap aren't going to give a shit.
I'm with you. But there seems to be a segment of the population that thinks he can coach. It's possible that segment is made up entirely of ESPN employees.
 

luckiestman

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I'm with you. But there seems to be a segment of the population that thinks he can coach. It's possible that segment is made up entirely of ESPN employees.
He can pretty obviously Head Coach at various collegiate levels. He was an all time player. I don’t know if an NFL owner wants the circus but Deion can run a team.
 

j-man

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lets see if deion can coach with out his son at QB and a deion type player at CB/WR if COLO goes 6-6 7-5 next year that meams deion is the real deal
 

j-man

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looking at Colo sch next season
GTech is a loss
Delwhere wyo are wins
Ariz st and byu are L'S
Iowa st and arizona are wins
@ hou is a win @ tcu is a loss @ k st is a loss @ west va is a loss @utah is a swing game