Is Jim Harbaugh coaching Michigan next season?

is Jim Harbaugh coaching Michigan next season?


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Absolutely he's staying....
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Plus his job at Michigan isn't done. He needs to get them to the playoffs. That could happen in the next year or so. If he wins the national title, at that point I figure he's out of Ann Arbor. He did his job and made a boatload of $$ in the process.
Getting them to the playoffs is going to be harder than you think. Next year they are at Wisconsin, host Ohio State, and have Florida at a neutral site. Lose one of those games and the playoffs are an uphill battle. Lose two...enjoy watching. I think he leaves at the end of next season.
 

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OSU's pining for Harbaugh's next job is a good thing. Did Yam-whatever create 'slap UM with bodyparts' threads a few years ago? From my UM POV, the abuse here feels like relevance.

Things cycle. When I was in school, UM's season was ruined every year by Notre Dame while the Bruce/Cooper-era OSU was pretty close to becoming another game on the way to the Rose Bowl. So I hated the Irish and went through the motions with OSU.
 

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Most people want to be adored. There are notable exceptions (BB comes to mind), but Jim Harbaugh doesn't strike me as one of them.

If Harbaugh wants to be adored in Ann Arbor, he needs to stay another 2-3 years to finish the turnaround and leave the program in the hands of a hand-picked successor. That should leave plenty of time for a second act in the NFL, if he wants that (and I suspect he does). Besides, Harbaugh's NFL resume is only looking better with the passage of time. The pros will be there for him when he's ready.
 

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LOL at Harbaugh complaining about other coaches spreading gossip to recruits. That's gold.

Why is it "gold"?

Do you honestly believe other coaches don't play that card bc I have some swamp land in Louisiana for you if so.
 
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Most people want to be adored. There are notable exceptions (BB comes to mind), but Jim Harbaugh doesn't strike me as one of them.

If Harbaugh wants to be adored in Ann Arbor, he needs to stay another 2-3 years to finish the turnaround and leave the program in the hands of a hand-picked successor. That should leave plenty of time for a second act in the NFL, if he wants that (and I suspect he does). Besides, Harbaugh's NFL resume is only looking better with the passage of time. The pros will be there for him when he's ready.

I agree with the premise that Harbaugh, like BB, is wired differently and may not give a shit about being adored - I like Harbaugh, but he's clearly an odd guy...and I can appreciate why if he's not your coach, you might dislike him (again like BB).

But here's the thing, the fact that he's an odd guy is exactly why we have no idea whether he will want to revisit the NFL someday. Threads like this are full of bullshit (Yammer is the master of shit stirring - I tip my hat). None of us knows what the guy wants to do long term*, but we do know he loves Ann Arbor and he doesn't plan to go anywhere now.

*For what it's worth, we don't know what Urban wants long-term either. He may be banging an OSU undergrad as we speak in which case he's going to have to dial up another pretend heart attack and start attending all his daughters' volleyball games.
 

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Almost two years ago, anyone with a microphone and a professional twitter account - especially the NFL mouthpieces - ignored any talk that he would coach Michigan. Until his plane landed at Willow Run Airport. Last year, the meme graduated to "give him one more year he'll be exploring his opportunities." This year, the Rams and then "he's gone next year. DEFINITELY next year. Because he's weird and takes losses hard."

So it goes. If he continues to win games, we'll see some form of this thread for a few more years.
 

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He is notorious for it, that's why I said it.
According to whom? The media loves to talk about Harbaugh and his wacky recruiting techniques (sleepovers, satellite camps, etc.), and I've never seen allegations of him spreading false rumors about other coaches.
 

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Well he just lost a recruit to BC. Clearly a sign he has given up on recruiting and is just focusing on how much power he can grab at [insert NFL coaching vacancy here].
 

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According to whom? The media loves to talk about Harbaugh and his wacky recruiting techniques (sleepovers, satellite camps, etc.), and I've never seen allegations of him spreading false rumors about other coaches.
About Penn State for sure, a friend of our's kid was recruited by him and every letter/call he got there was some smear campaign about how the games they'd play as a Nittany Lion would eventually be thrown out, etc. There are ample stories from those recruits to match.

He's no better than any other BS seller college head coach.
 

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About Penn State for sure, a friend of our's kid was recruited by him and every letter/call he got there was some smear campaign about how the games they'd play as a Nittany Lion would eventually be thrown out, etc. There are ample stories from those recruits to match.

He's no better than any other BS seller college head coach.
If Harbaugh (or any coach) put anti-PSU smears in writing, we'd have seen the evidence already.

I think you're listening to a lot of paranoid nonsense from people who are having trouble coming to grips with the fact that they root for a program than enabled pedophilia for decades. (And just lost a shit-ton of money in damages to the assistant coach they destroyed after he tried to report it up the chain and then testified about his actions.)

And you know what? I get it. I grew up in PA and my allegiance to PSU was fanatical. The best man at my wedding (and still my closest friend) has the last name of Paterno and it's not a coincidence. (Although he would always joke that his father was not quite close enough to Joe to be considered a "ticket relative.") So yeah, I get how difficult the last few years have been. But stop projecting. Your problems aren't with Harbaugh or Meyer or Dantonio.
 

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I agree with the premise that Harbaugh, like BB, is wired differently and may not give a shit about being adored - I like Harbaugh, but he's clearly an odd guy...and I can appreciate why if he's not your coach, you might dislike him (again like BB).
Actually, my premise was the opposite -- Harbaugh does want to be adored; hence he won't leave Michigan before his job there is done.
 

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But here's the thing, the fact that he's an odd guy is exactly why we have no idea whether he will want to revisit the NFL someday. Threads like this are full of bullshit (Yammer is the master of shit stirring - I tip my hat). None of us knows what the guy wants to do long term*, but we do know he loves Ann Arbor and he doesn't plan to go anywhere now.
How do you know either of those things? Seriously.

As far as your assertion around stirring, at THE START OF THE SEASON I said he would be gone for the NFL and you and the rest of the crew poo pooed it....as soon as openings start up now he is on everyone's list. I said that tOSU would beat UM and would be in the playoffs, again........despite your assertions, both came true. No one wants to be Charlie Weis, his career has been a dumpster fire and a warning to all coaches that you are only as good as your players. Harbaugh is at a place where the (not particularly realistic) expectation is B1G title and Playoff. tOSU is very young and on the rise, despite beating UM for the last kabillionty years, Wisconsin and PSU are both on the rise. In the meantime Harbaugh is graduating the top end talent he has, this was his year. Much like me on the terlet, he will struggle to get over the evacuation of Taco and Peppers (see what I did there?). He knows this.

Harbaugh? Har-BYE more like, amirite???
 

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Actually, my premise was the opposite -- Harbaugh does want to be adored; hence he won't leave Michigan before his job there is done.
As you and I both know from the teams for which we root, you are only adored when you are meeting or exceeding fan expectations. Next season will be a regression year at UM. Does he want to hear the criticism? I think not.

In fact, I will go a step further. If UM lose to FSU I will donate $50 to the Jimmy Fund if he is still a Michigan state employee by the end of February.
 

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I get that Ohio State guys have to focus on Michigan because what the Buckeyes have accomplished so far this year consists, literally and completely, of beating Michigan. Its also no spectacular insight that NFL teams would want to hire a coach who has been successful everywhere. It's also no spectacular insight that the Colts make sense as a landing spot because Harbaugh has said Luck was the number one player he'd choose if starting a franchise. Although I'm not sure Harbaugh has watched Colts game tape this year. Or seen Drew's concussive glaze. Also, if UM loses to FSU and he is gone by the end of February I will donate $51 to the Jimmy Fund, but it might take me awhile you know how these things are.
 

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as soon as openings start up now he is on everyone's list.
He would be on everyone's list regardless if he was a real option, a la Gruden.

I said that []OSU would beat UM and would be in the playoffs, again
Because one has to do with the other.

you are only as good as your players
Nope. Harbaugh's turnaround from 5-7 to 10-3 disproves that. In college ball, developing players is equally important or close to it. He has improved recruiting regardless.

Harbaugh is at a place where the (not particularly realistic) expectation is B1G title and Playoff.
Clearly a flame, but OK where you going with this Yamsky...

Wisconsin and PSU are both on the rise.
PSU just won the conference and still didn't get invited to the dance. Just because they beat you doesn't mean they are good. Wisconsin will win the west division and assume the current SEC east sacrificial lamb status.

graduating the top end talent he has
There's some guy named Gary on the team. Have you heard of him?

Harbaugh? Har-BYE more like, amirite???
Meyer? More like scumbag douchebag asshole AMIRITE?!?

No one wants to be Charlie Weis
We agree here.
 

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He would be on everyone's list regardless if he was a real option, a la Gruden.



Because one has to do with the other.



Nope. Harbaugh's turnaround from 5-7 to 10-3 disproves that. In college ball, developing players is equally important or close to it. He has improved recruiting regardless.



Clearly a flame, but OK where you going with this Yamsky...



PSU just won the conference and still didn't get invited to the dance. Just because they beat you doesn't mean they are good. Wisconsin will win the west division and assume the current SEC east sacrificial lamb status.



There's some guy named Gary on the team. Have you heard of him?



Meyer? More like scumbag douchebag asshole AMIRITE?!?



We agree here.
If anyone had told me, in 2000, that tOSU was about to fire up a chipper shredder on UM that was going to run at least 20+ seasons I would have been really happy. But if you could add in that there would be such an assload of written evidence that UM fans were total bitches, I would have had a 3 month boner. Like when I hang out with your mom, only without the herpes.
 

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Also, if UM loses to FSU and he is gone by the end of February I will donate $51 to the Jimmy Fund, but it might take me awhile you know how these things are.
With all due respect, I am ahocked that a mod hasn't come in here and yelled at you. Personally when I read this I was in......wait for it.......stitches?
 

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How do you know either of those things? Seriously.

As far as your assertion around stirring, at THE START OF THE SEASON I said he would be gone for the NFL and you and the rest of the crew poo pooed it....as soon as openings start up now he is on everyone's list. I said that tOSU would beat UM and would be in the playoffs, again........despite your assertions, both came true. No one wants to be Charlie Weis, his career has been a dumpster fire and a warning to all coaches that you are only as good as your players. Harbaugh is at a place where the (not particularly realistic) expectation is B1G title and Playoff. tOSU is very young and on the rise, despite beating UM for the last kabillionty years, Wisconsin and PSU are both on the rise. In the meantime Harbaugh is graduating the top end talent he has, this was his year. Much like me on the terlet, he will struggle to get over the evacuation of Taco and Peppers (see what I did there?). He knows this.

Harbaugh? Har-BYE more like, amirite???

His love and appreciation for Ann Arbor is well documented in Bacon's last book and in Harbaugh's piece in the Player's Tribune.

And spare me the talent erosion nonsense - Michigan will be less good next year but still plenty good..Harbaugh has recruited very well. Future is bright enough to last through Urban Meyer's next round of pretend heart attacks.
 

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If anyone had told me, in 2000, that tOSU was about to fire up a chipper shredder on UM that was going to run at least 20+ seasons I would have been really happy. But if you could add in that there would be such an assload of written evidence that UM fans were total bitches, I would have had a 3 month boner. Like when I hang out with your mom, only without the herpes.

You throw out stuff you know is bullshit then call Michigan fans bitches and whiners for saying you're wrong.

And you're going to put up 50 whole dollars for the Jimmy Fund that Harbaugh will leave in two months if Michigan loses to FSU. If you really believe that will happen, place a real bet. You have $50 of coins in your Woody Hayes piggy bank.

You know Harbaugh isn't going anywhere soon.
 

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You throw out stuff you know is bullshit then call Michigan fans bitches and whiners for saying you're wrong.
Given how you did a truly horrible job while being called out on your facts in the tOSU-UM game thread and then ended up being completely wrong I would think you would reel it in. When you can find things that I said that were wrong about tOSU or UM then knock yourself out. You and the other whiners had to have the rules for PI explained to you, had to have people review game tape you posted to show Harbaugh threw his card on the field, had to be corrected on how referees are selected for games, had to be corrected on how games are refereed, and had to be corrected on where the head ref was from.......all while having multiple neutral parties and even a few UM fans note how whiny you were being.

You're whiny, kiddo.
 

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Given how you did a truly horrible job while being called out on your facts in the tOSU-UM game thread and then ended up being completely wrong I would think you would reel it in. When you can find things that I said that were wrong about tOSU or UM then knock yourself out. You and the other whiners had to have the rules for PI explained to you, had to have people review game tape you posted to show Harbaugh threw his card on the field, had to be corrected on how referees are selected for games, had to be corrected on how games are refereed, and had to be corrected on where the head ref was from.......all while having multiple neutral parties and even a few UM fans note how whiny you were being.

You're whiny, kiddo.
You must be confusing me with other posters. I definitely whined bc the officiating was imbalanced and Buckeyes did benefit from major home cooking...but I never got into any of that stuff about how the zebras were picked, specific PI rules.

2 penalties for 6 yards. PIs called on mich that were basically mimicked by OSU on subsequent drives and not called. It was a joke, and many major media members (neutral ones) said the same.

Regardless, my point holds: you know harbaugh's not leaving now or you'd place a real bet - you're all talk.
 

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You must be confusing me with other posters. I definitely whined bc the officiating was imbalanced and Buckeyes did benefit from major home cooking...but I never got into any of that stuff about how the zebras were picked, specific PI rules.
Thank you for whining about the same things you claimed not to have whined about. It saves people the effort of having to click over to other threads.
 

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Let's start at the very beginning.

What is the goal of the author of the book and the owner of the website?
If you think bacon is not credible, say so.

I completely disagree. He covers the big ten as objectively as anyone. The guy teaches journalism at two well respected universities (mich and northwestern) - he's not making up lies about a football coach so he can continue the narrative of his book. He supports the narrative of his book bc that narrative is accurate. Everyone said Harbaugh was staying in the NFL - remember that? Bacon has been right the whole time yet you question his accuracy and motives while spouting your own endless stream of bullshit.
 
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Thank you for whining about the same things you claimed not to have whined about. It saves people the effort of having to click over to other threads.

You talked about how refs were selected and talking about PI rules - show me where I said anything about that stuff. Never happened


Edit: I'm still waiting for you to up that Jimmy fund bet. Talking all kinds of shit and then pledging $50 for a scenario that won't happen anyway (bc mich beats fsu) is such a weak move for such a big talker
 

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If you think bacon is not credible, say so.

I completely disagree. He covers the big ten as objectively as anyone. The guy teaches journalism at two well respected universities (mich and northwestern) - he's not making up lies about a football coach so he can continue the narrative of his book. He supports the narrative of his book bc that narrative is accurate. Everyone said Harbaugh was staying in the NFL - remember that? Bacon has been right the whole time yet you question his accuracy and motives while spouting your own endless stream of bullshit.
You aren't smart. But you make the same mistakes so you are predictable.
 

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And your act is tired and boring.

Put some money behind your big mouth.
What kind of odds will you give me? You seem very certain that he won't leave so how about $100 at 20 -1. Seem reasonable?

Come on, should be a simple one for you. Hell, he LOVES Ann Arbor and you know it.
 

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What kind of odds will you give me? You seem very certain that he won't leave so how about $100 at 20 -1. Seem reasonable?

Come on, should be a simple one for you. Hell, he LOVES Ann Arbor and you know it.

Odds? You started this whole thread by saying Harbaugh wouldn't make it through another recruiting season.

If Harbaugh leaves in Feb, as you said above in the thread, I'll give $200 to the Jimmy Fund.

If he stays - win or lose vs the noles, you give $30 to the Jimmy Fund.

No one loses here - Deal?
 

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You should specify which year you mean, don't just say February. Don't leave any thread unstitched.
 

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Odds? You started this whole thread by saying Harbaugh wouldn't make it through another recruiting season.

If Harbaugh leaves in Feb, as you said above in the thread, I'll give $200 to the Jimmy Fund.

If he stays - win or lose vs the noles, you give $30 to the Jimmy Fund.

No one loses here - Deal?
6.5-1 for something you are certain of? And you are calling me out?
 

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6.5-1 for something you are certain of? And you are calling me out?
You started the thread, bud. You are the one who said Harbaugh would be doneso by this feb. If you want to back down from all your chirping, be my guest, but I'm willing to bet on something you seem pretty confident about...and I'm betting my $200 ($400 with company gift March) to your $30.

Don't be a cheap ass. Take the bet. Back up all your chirping just this once, for the children.
 

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You started the thread, bud. You are the one who said Harbaugh would be doneso by this feb. If you want to back down from all your chirping, be my guest, but I'm willing to bet on something you seem pretty confident about...and I'm betting my $200 ($400 with company gift March) to your $30.

Don't be a cheap ass. Take the bet. Back up all your chirping just this once, for the children.
Works for me.
 

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Odds? You started this whole thread by saying Harbaugh wouldn't make it through another recruiting season.

If Harbaugh leaves in Feb, as you said above in the thread, I'll give $200 to the Jimmy Fund.

If he stays - win or lose vs the noles, you give $30 to the Jimmy Fund.

No one loses here - Deal?
Because bets here seem to be a bit squishy, the bet is that there will be a formal announcement that Jim Harbaugh is leaving as the UM coach by the end of February. If there is some whackadoodle clause in his contract where he is "officially" still the HC of the UM Buckeyevictims for a few weeks or months after the announcement (e.g. negotiating the buyout) then I would assume that we won't play silly games over that.

Payment should be made via check, credit card or money order by March 21st, 2017 to the Jimmy Fund.
 

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Because bets here seem to be a bit squishy, the bet is that there will be a formal announcement that Jim Harbaugh is leaving as the UM coach by the end of February. If there is some whackadoodle clause in his contract where he is "officially" still the HC of the UM Buckeyevictims for a few weeks or months after the announcement (e.g. negotiating the buyout) then I would assume that we won't play silly games over that.

Payment should be made via check, credit card or money order by March 21st, 2017 to the Jimmy Fund.

Cool - I'm good with this. Don't care about contracts etc - if he says he's leaving in feb, I'll pay up.
 

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Cool - I'm good with this. Don't care about contracts etc - if he says he's leaving in feb, I'll pay up.
Just to clarify, my bet is that he will announce before the end of February, not necessarily in february. He may not have the patience to stay more than a few days after losing to FSU should that happen.

Also, in all seriousness, I really don't care about the timing of the payment. If you want to wait until the end of tax season or something I am not going to stitch you up on that.
 

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Just to clarify, my bet is that he will announce before the end of February, not necessarily in february. He may not have the patience to stay more than a few days after losing to FSU should that happen.

Also, in all seriousness, I really don't care about the timing of the payment. If you want to wait until the end of tax season or something I am not going to stitch you up on that.
Yup - we're aligned

And I'll pay promptly if I lose - no sense in waiting.