Freemium games make me despise all of these iPhone games. I'm not saying this is one, but so many are "free" and then you end up paying through the nose. Let me just pay for the whole game up front /randomrant
iPhone 6s and other Apple announcements today
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derekson said:
Ugh. Why not throw an A9 in there? I'm hoping they at least jacked the speed of the A8 since they don't have to worry about battery and have a shit ton more room for cooling.
I really should have bought a TV with more HDMI inputs. Cable + Fire Stick + BluRay + XBox = no free slots for Apple TV (though Fire Stick is the obvious candidate to go).
3 years down the road....
"We've discontinued support for Live Photos, they're now dead photos"
"We've discontinued support for Live Photos, they're now dead photos"
Did he actually talk about 2nd gen touch ID? twice as fast? Great. It's fast already, faster is better. Especially for Apple Pay.
I still can't believe Apple demo'd Photoshop on the iPad by making a woman's frown into a smile.
canderson said:
I haven't worked out the math but it seems like a much better deal with AppleCare+ included
iCloud 50gb for .99 cents? Woo!
I had a friend who works for Microsoft actually explain this to me last year. IIRC he said the majority of users actually use hardly any space so they can put it out cheap and go with the "Starting from xxx" price to sound ultracompetitive.derekson said:
iCloud pricing is great, too bad you can't drag/drop files like Dropbox. Even in iOS IMO iCloud is virtually useless since you can't save files to it and then open a directory to retrieve them (ie Dropbox).
I'm going to need math help to see if this is better than merging into AT&T Next. I'm currently on a no-contract Mobile Share Value 15gb plan with two contract-free phones. Wife isn't upgrading this cycle so need to math out if the Next is more cost effective than Apple's new plan. Applecare+ is a big bonus, but I can afford a new phone outright so insurance isn't something I ever get.derekson said:
canderson said:
Everyone that I know, their main use of iCloud is for Photos, not using it like dropbox.
canderson said:
It really only makes sense if you upgrade every 12 months from what i can tell, which they implied. If you skip cycles it makes no sense, just like a phone contract, if you don't upgrade every 2 cycles, it's dumb.
derekson said:
I'd assume games for a HDTV will end up being quite a bit larger than smartphone counterparts. Apple has not been a fan of giving away tons of storage space out of the gate. I'll bet those 32GB versions fill up pretty quickly.
NortheasternPJ said:
Indeed. iCloud is (currently) meant to be a transparent/passive storage solution.
$50 for 32 vs 64gb on the AppleTV is a no brainer. I've always been a 16gb iPhone person, I will probably go to 64gb next year with the 7 if 16gb is still the base.
canderson said:
I don't really get iCloud. So far it seems like it backs up my iOS devices including photos, which is good if I lose the devices, but what I want is to be able to upload my photos to the iCloud Photo Library and delete the photos stored on my devices to free up space.
NortheasternPJ said:
I would pay $50 extra for a 32 GB iPhone, but 64 just seems wastefully large and I don't want to blow $100 on an upgrade I will likely only use a small portion of. I actually went from a 32 GB iPhone 5S to a 16 GB iPhone 6 (being able to use iCloud Photo Library and only locally store thumbnails freed up several GB though).
NortheasternPJ said:
The pricing looked better than AT&T next to me, because they both split up a phone payment to ~2 years, but if you do a 24 month payment plan with AT&T you can only upgrade after 18 months, not 12. Plus Apple gives you free insurance. Wasn't it $31/month for 24 months for a 6S+? Or did I get the numbers wrong?
To upgrade your phone on AT&T in 12 months you need a 20 month plan, meaning when you upgrade in 1 year you've paid off 60% of the phone vs 50% on Apple's plan.
You can do this. You go into the iCloud photo library settings and tell it to only use limited storage on the iPhone. It will download photos as you want to view them, in a resolution to fit the screen, rather than storing full resolution photos locally. The original, full resolution photos live in the cloud.singaporesoxfan said:
derekson said:
I know that, but I want to actually delete the photos for photo management purposes.
To expand on the Apple payment plan vs. AT&T Next math (using the example of a $749 iPhone 6S+ 16 GB):
with Apple, you get 24 months of $31/month, with the option to upgrade any time after 12 months. This means you can upgrade after paying $372 in one year (~50% of the phone's retail cost). And you get free AppleCare+ ($99 normally). You can also keep the phone for 24 months and have a phone worth $200+ to trade in for a new phone at 2 years' time, or keep using the phone and pay no additional cost until you do want to upgrade.
With AT&T next, you have the following options:
Next 24: Ability to trade in @24 months, paying $25/month over 30 installments. At 24 months you'll have paid $600 and still not own your phone, but have the option of trading it in while owing $150 on it still and not having an actual equity in the phone. If you want to own the phone you need to pay 6 more months. At 24 months you've paid $144 less than the Apple plan, but you don't own a $200+ phone that you can trade in when you get your new phone.
Next 18: Ability to trade in @18 months, paying $31.25/month over 24 installments. At 18 months you'll have paid $562.50, but can upgrade for committing to a new lease. If you want to own the phone you go out to the same 24 months as Apple and pay $6 more, and at that point you can keep it or trade it in for ~$200 while upgrading to a new phone.
Next 12: Ability to trade in @12 months, paying $37.50/month over 20 installments. At 12 months you'll have paid $450 and can trade in your phone. If you continue you'll pay the phone off by 20 months and can then trade it in at 24 months for a new phone @~$200 credit.
If you want to upgrade at 24 months they're all pretty similar, other than Next 24 being a relative rip off since you owe them $150 on a phone worth $200+ when you upgrade, so you're basically putting $50+ into AT&T's pocket by upgrading.
If you want to upgrade at 18 months, and do the AT&T plan, you'll have paid $562.50. If you do Apple's plan and upgrade at 18 months instead of when first eligible at 12 months, you'll have paid $558.
If you want to upgrade at 12 months, you pay Apple $372 in a year vs $450 to AT&T.
Plus with the Apple plan you get AppleCare+, and you can basically swap carriers anytime you please without having to pay off the phone.
with Apple, you get 24 months of $31/month, with the option to upgrade any time after 12 months. This means you can upgrade after paying $372 in one year (~50% of the phone's retail cost). And you get free AppleCare+ ($99 normally). You can also keep the phone for 24 months and have a phone worth $200+ to trade in for a new phone at 2 years' time, or keep using the phone and pay no additional cost until you do want to upgrade.
With AT&T next, you have the following options:
Next 24: Ability to trade in @24 months, paying $25/month over 30 installments. At 24 months you'll have paid $600 and still not own your phone, but have the option of trading it in while owing $150 on it still and not having an actual equity in the phone. If you want to own the phone you need to pay 6 more months. At 24 months you've paid $144 less than the Apple plan, but you don't own a $200+ phone that you can trade in when you get your new phone.
Next 18: Ability to trade in @18 months, paying $31.25/month over 24 installments. At 18 months you'll have paid $562.50, but can upgrade for committing to a new lease. If you want to own the phone you go out to the same 24 months as Apple and pay $6 more, and at that point you can keep it or trade it in for ~$200 while upgrading to a new phone.
Next 12: Ability to trade in @12 months, paying $37.50/month over 20 installments. At 12 months you'll have paid $450 and can trade in your phone. If you continue you'll pay the phone off by 20 months and can then trade it in at 24 months for a new phone @~$200 credit.
If you want to upgrade at 24 months they're all pretty similar, other than Next 24 being a relative rip off since you owe them $150 on a phone worth $200+ when you upgrade, so you're basically putting $50+ into AT&T's pocket by upgrading.
If you want to upgrade at 18 months, and do the AT&T plan, you'll have paid $562.50. If you do Apple's plan and upgrade at 18 months instead of when first eligible at 12 months, you'll have paid $558.
If you want to upgrade at 12 months, you pay Apple $372 in a year vs $450 to AT&T.
Plus with the Apple plan you get AppleCare+, and you can basically swap carriers anytime you please without having to pay off the phone.
derekson said:
Thanks, this is very helpful. One thing I don't get because I've never used an upgrade plan - when you say "upgrade", does that mean Apple or AT&T take back the phone you have right now, and give you a new one?
Thanks for this, it was what I was going to have to factor myself.derekson said:
It does seem like Apple's plan is a no-brainer UNLESS you want to be able to upgrade after a year and a half. One thing with Next though is you can always pay off the difference and own it outright, wonder if Apple will allow that.
The other difference is the majority of users don't get an unlocked phone so they're paying $100 less overall for the phone regardless of how they pay it off. I'm indifferent on unlocked phones, I have zero reason to leave AT&T.
derekson said:
What if I want to keep the phone? Should I use the other installment plan instead of the upgrade plan?
But not on my phone, where I use it most often. (I store menus and itineraries and all there to grab while traveling).derekson said: