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I have an 11 Pro Max now, and even though the differences outside of 5G don’t seem huge to me, I’m absolutely getting a 12 Pro Max, especially given the price point. I was a 10+ year android user that switches to iPhone last year because my job requires that we use them. I was anti Apple but I love this phone and the ecosystem. After using it, I get the hype. It’s a very smooth experience and the battery life is incredible. I haven’t had issues with iOS 14.
 

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Have an 11 Pro that I’ll trade in for a 12 Pro. 5G and camera (4x optical zoom) are a huge upgrade. I’ve been on the 2 year cycle that lines up with non-“S” releases and only have the 11 because in a daze last summer I took my X into the pool.
 

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The tmobile / sprint deal I'm seeing is ridiculous. Trade in my old ass Iphone 8 to pay $7 a month for a 12? Sure thing
 

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I changed my mind and pre-ordered a 12. I’ve always had the biggest available size, but the 12 Pro Max is bigger and heavier than my current Xs Max and really more than I want to have to carry around in my pocket all day. I played around with my wife’s Xr, which has the same screen size as the 12, and it’s fine. And between the 12 and 12 Pro, the 2x lens in the Pro isn’t really worth the extra money, so I just ordered the regular 12.
 

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I feel like the big losers in this are non MagSafe case makers. I really like the Jimmycase I have on my X, but went with a clear MagSafe case with a wallet for a Pacific Blue 12 Pro. The wallet price is really outrageous but it works so well with what I already do, popping out my license and favorite credit card to charge the phone.
 

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So can the new integrated magnet fully support the phone, or does it just align the phone with new Apple MagSafe accessories? I use my magnet-enabled case to mount the phone to a car charger (where the magnet keeps it suspended vertically) and even to stick it on the fridge sometimes when I’m cooking. I can’t tell if this feature fully obviates needing a magnet case or not.
 

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Yes.


 

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Will these work for the 12 Pro Max, or will that require something more heavy duty?
 

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From my understanding no difference and the magnets are fairly strong (they are powered magnets and work through the new cases).
 

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I usually go about 2-3 years between upgrades (currently on an 8+) and I think I'll jump in this round. The difficulty I'm having is trying to decide which carrier is the way to go.

I'm currently on AT&T which is fine near my house (Upstate NY) but is a bit spottier when we go north a few times a year. Looking at their 5G map, my house/work seem to be in range of their 5G, but a few streets away is only 4G.

T-Mobile also seems to have 5G in my area (slightly better than AT&T), but has a lot more pockets of no coverage that might make that one a non starter.

Verizon has much better coverage (3G/4G) in the overall area, but don't seem to have 5G at all in the area yet. (Or at least not the full 5G version that is supposed to be the best of all.)

Any insight into how 5g deployment will go over the next 6-12 months? Most of the articles I've found in search are pretty stale at this point and haven't been much help.

Is it possible that the 5G coverage that AT&T and T-Mobile are claiming, is much more akin to the experience I'd get using a 5G device on a 4G Verizon network making at least that aspect a wash? (I feel like I understand about 75% of the 5G capabilities, but it's the part I can't figure out which would prove to be most helpful/useful).
 

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I usually go about 2-3 years between upgrades (currently on an 8+) and I think I'll jump in this round. The difficulty I'm having is trying to decide which carrier is the way to go.

I'm currently on AT&T which is fine near my house (Upstate NY) but is a bit spottier when we go north a few times a year. Looking at their 5G map, my house/work seem to be in range of their 5G, but a few streets away is only 4G.

T-Mobile also seems to have 5G in my area (slightly better than AT&T), but has a lot more pockets of no coverage that might make that one a non starter.

Verizon has much better coverage (3G/4G) in the overall area, but don't seem to have 5G at all in the area yet. (Or at least not the full 5G version that is supposed to be the best of all.)

Any insight into how 5g deployment will go over the next 6-12 months? Most of the articles I've found in search are pretty stale at this point and haven't been much help.

Is it possible that the 5G coverage that AT&T and T-Mobile are claiming, is much more akin to the experience I'd get using a 5G device on a 4G Verizon network making at least that aspect a wash? (I feel like I understand about 75% of the 5G capabilities, but it's the part I can't figure out which would prove to be most helpful/useful).
Where in Upstate are you? The Verizon coverage is so much better up the 87 area by Lake George, where AT&T is horrible. Is Xfinity Mobile an option? It's on the Verizon Network, they cripple tethering speeds which sucks, but other than that it's basically Verizon at 1/4-/12 the cost.
 

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The tmobile / sprint deal I'm seeing is ridiculous. Trade in my old ass Iphone 8 to pay $7 a month for a 12? Sure thing
Really? Was just vaguely browsing through this thread as have an XR that I'm perfectly happy with. That said...really just $7 a month? That's...enticing...
 

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Really? Was just vaguely browsing through this thread as have an XR that I'm perfectly happy with. That said...really just $7 a month? That's...enticing...
They gave me $415 discount for giving back my 8, and $200 discount for loyalty (5 years with Sprint). So basically paying $215 over 30 months.
 

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Where in Upstate are you? The Verizon coverage is so much better up the 87 area by Lake George, where AT&T is horrible. Is Xfinity Mobile an option? It's on the Verizon Network, they cripple tethering speeds which sucks, but other than that it's basically Verizon at 1/4-/12 the cost.
Pretty close to Lake George (Glens Falls), which for me has been fine as long as we stay south or near the Lake, but gets much worse when we go north of there. I think based solely on coverage, Verizon is the easy way to go (and like you mentioned, could save a bit by going with a network operator rather than the network itself).

I think what it boils down to as I've been thinking about it, is I should look at coverage (therefore verizon network) rather than 5G coverage, since even if the other carriers do offer true 5G near me now, it won't be much better than what I'd be getting with 4G LTE anyway.
 

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Yeah my wife's family is in Brant Lake, so right next door. My Verizon coverage is "good" (which means it's working) basically until Exit 24 on 87. From there, coverage on State Route 8 and at BL is really hit or miss, but AT&T was a 100% black hole.
 

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Yeah my wife's family is in Brant Lake, so right next door. My Verizon coverage is "good" (which means it's working) basically until Exit 24 on 87. From there, coverage on State Route 8 and at BL is really hit or miss, but AT&T was a 100% black hole.
I've had experience with AT&T and Verizon in that area and concur with everything said so far. Verizon (or Verizon via Xfinity/Spectrum mobile) is the preferred option if one wants the best chance of at least having acceptable coverage. Even if AT&T 5g is theoretically available, I would be suspicious of it actually working there. I was lucky to even get a signal at all.
 

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It appears the embargo on YouTube reviews got lifted yesterday. I was disappointed to see reports of less battery life than the previous gen. The pricing difference (at full retail) between the 12 and the 12 Pro when you upgrade the 12 from 64 to 128gb is like $100. Yet the review seem to suggest that if you're considering the Pro, to wait until they release the Pro Max to really see how that stacks up.

The 11 Pro Max in mint condition is going for around $900 on Swappa. I'm not convinced 5G will be particularly viable until I go to upgrade again in 2 years, so that's not a huge selling point for me. I'm pretty torn as to what to do right now. Probably will wait to see what the Pro Max has to offer.

For people with iPhone experience: do you recommend getting AppleCare+? I'm not an appliance warranty guy, typically, but it might make sense at these price points.