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Euclis20

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I like him a lot. BUT I'd immediately move him for 3-4 Firsts...Zach Lowe & Woj reported it, so it's probably legit

2nd in DPOY last year. Very Durable. Great contract.
I imagine DARKO likes him a lot since he's consistently a positive +/-, On-Off over massive minutes.
Agreed, and the bolded is an understatement. Tatum is durable. Bridges hasn't missed a game since at least high school.
 

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Putting this in the news thread and not the trade deadline since this may definitely be news.

Word is that Portland trainers have been pressured to shoot Payton up and convincing him to play through the pain. Whoa!
 

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As a reminder, there is no such thing as "failing a physical" in the NBA or any professional sport.

Nearly every player has something wrong that could theoretically cause them to fail.

There is only "this is much worse than we expected"
 

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As a reminder, there is no such thing as "failing a physical" in the NBA or any professional sport.

Every player has something wrong that could theoretically cause them to fail.

There is only "this is much worse than we expected"
"Currently can't play for 3 months" seems like a pretty sizable failure.
 

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"Currently can't play for 3 months" seems like a pretty sizable failure.
The point is that any NBA player can be failed if a team finds out something much worse than expected (apparently as in this case).

There is not actually some fair medical arbitrator that makes some appropriate binary decision.
 

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Well Anonoby is still a Raptor so likely most teams think three 1sts is too much. But Bridges is on that’s good deal for 3 more years where OG is a free agent in a year. But damn that sounds like sooo much to pay for a non superstar
Well, we have reporting that at least 1 team offerred 3 picks and had it rejected (MEM) because TOR wasn't interested in an all-picks deal.
 

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Well Anonoby is still a Raptor so likely most teams think three 1sts is too much. But Bridges is on that’s good deal for 3 more years where OG is a free agent in a year. But damn that sounds like sooo much to pay for a non superstar
Take it for what it's worth, but Lowe is a very responsible reporter, and said that he had heard:
- Indy offered 3 1sts + this year's Houston 2nd for Anunoby
- Memphis offered 4 1sts for Bridges

I was shocked at the offers too, and more shocked Toronto & Brooklyn turned them down. If they were offered that many consecutive, there couldn't have been strong protections.

Feels like teams are back to undervaluing picks after overvaluing them post Garnett/Pierce trade. I bet if LAL convey a lotto pick to NO this year things snap back somewhat.
 

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And not all first round picks are valued equally. The Memphis picks are all likely to be towards the end of the first round for at least the next few years since they have a young team they can keep and grow together. The Lakers and Suns picks a couple years out could be at the top of the draft after their stars decline.
 

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They replaced one big man made out of glass (Davis) with another made out of paper-maiche (Williamson).

Well that clinches a playoff spot for the Fakers now.
 

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Not even the most talented never healthy athlete in New Orleans Basketball history. He's a freak athlete, but AD was more talented
AD was certainly more talented, but he also averaged 67 games per year in 7 seasons with NO. That's definitely injury prone, but also definitely not "never healthy." He was healthy enough to make 3 all-nba teams (all 1st team) and considered to have made enough of an impact to make the NBA 75 team (obviously partly due to his title in LA, but still).

Zion has just 114 games played in 3+ seasons - if he plays a dozen more games this year (doubtful), he'll be averaging fewer than half as many games per season as Davis played in NO.
 
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AD was certainly more talented, but he also averaged 67 games per year in 7 seasons with NO. That's definitely injury prone, but definitely not "never health." He was healthy enough to make 3 all-nba teams (all 1st team) and considered to have made enough of an impact to make the NBA 75 team (obviously partly due to his title in LA, but still).

Zion has just 114 games played in 3+ seasons - if he plays a dozen more games this year (doubtful), he'll be averaging fewer than half as many games per season as Davis played in NO.
True, I thought he missed way more.
 

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NBC is aggressively bidding for the NBA rights
Comcast’s NBCUniversal is preparing to make a strong bid to win back National Basketball Association broadcast rights more than 20 years after the company lost them to Disney and Turner Sports, according to people familiar with the matter.




NBCUniversal executives have informed the NBA of their interest, said the people, who asked not to be named because the discussions are private. NBC Sports wants a package that would include playoff games to air on NBC’s broadcast network, two of the people said. Some regular season games could be exclusive to NBCUniversal’s streaming service, Peacock. The NBA could also decide to force media companies to simulcast all games on streaming to increase reach, the people said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/13/nbc-sports-prepared-to-make-nba-bid.html

If they win the rights and do not bing back the NBA on NBC theme song it will be a travesty
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMyYwoTMIgY
 

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If I had to bet, the next contract will eclipse some of the more aggressive estimates. That article suggests that the $70b (over nine years) estimates being thrown around are too aggressive and the new contract will likely come in at ~$50b. I will take the over on that and I would not be shocked if they get a 60 or 70-handle.
 

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Back on the Warriors/Blazers situation, on today's Dunc'd On pod, Nate/Danny mentioned that GP2's agent is also Dame's agent. Awkward!!!

On other unrelated notes, they highlighted the fact that Jerami Grant just signed to Klutch ahead of his free agency. It will be interesting to see how that factors into Grant's market.

Also, they noted the Rockets are currently sitting on $82mm of dead money. After the Wall and Green buyouts, Houston's highest paid player is Jalen Green at $9.4mm. When you look at the players traded there and what happens on the follow, its often their last NBA stop. A Rocket to nowhere...
 

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Hield is shooting 42% from three this season on 9 threes a game; only player ever to shoot better with that volume and percentage is Steph.
 

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Haliburton would seem to have ideal mechanics for this type of competition with so little wasted motion. Tatum will be interesting. Hot Take: He struggles and finishes bottom two with Simons.
 

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Haliburton would seem to have ideal mechanics for this type of competition with so little wasted motion. Tatum will be interesting. Hot Take: He struggles and finishes bottom two with Simons.
Wouldn't be surprising, though he did make it to the 2nd round of the contest 2 years ago.
 

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Haliburton would seem to have ideal mechanics for this type of competition with so little wasted motion. Tatum will be interesting. Hot Take: He struggles and finishes bottom two with Simons.
Agreed. I think Tatum has emphasized his body/strength, drawing fouls, and developing a handle to attack the rim over the last few years. His 3pt shot work has taken a back seat. Once he stops growing, Hanlan/Tatum will get back in the lab and fine-tune his 3pt stroke.

When he starts draining them at 40% on high volume, Tatum will be the best player in the NBA.
 

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Kevin Love getting bought out. Little odd since the Cavs are contenders, but I guess they are done with him.

I don't want him on the Celtics but for some reason I feel like he will somehow annoy us if he gets time on the Heat, 76ers, Bucks, etc.
 

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Kevin Love getting bought out. Little odd since the Cavs are contenders, but I guess they are done with him.

I don't want him on the Celtics but for some reason I feel like he will somehow annoy us if he gets time on the Heat, 76ers, Bucks, etc.
I’m all for downplaying the “this player is toast” angle when a veteran gets lost in a bad situation. I’m not downplaying this however…..Kevin Love is freakin toast!
 

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When people talk about contracts and franchise values, its important not to just look at recent examples of transactions to gauge the market but also consider other factors like inflation or new market entrants.

You want to see another leg up in player salaries and franchise values?

This is from a subscription piece on Bloomberg titled "NBA Teams Become Target for Gulf Sovereign Wealth Funds"

(Bloomberg) -- Two of the world’s richest sovereign wealth
funds are interested in buying minority stakes in National
Basketball Association teams, according to people familiar with
the matter, in the latest example of how oil money from the
Persian Gulf is pumping up values in global sports.
Executives at Abu Dhabi’s Mubadala Investment Co. and Qatar
Investment Authority have expressed their interest in NBA
ownership and are actively hunting for a possible match, said
the people, who requested anonymity as the discussions are
private.
The article goes on to speculate that the Knicks might be one of the first targets given that its biggest shareholder, Silver Lake Management, already has deep ties with Abu Dhabi.

IMO, this has the potential to shift league economics more than people think as these funds tend to follow one another.
 

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I can see the NBA approving SWFs of unsavory governments as minority shareholders. I can't see them approving a sale to them as a new owner. Maybe if it were Norway, then sure, but the NBA's fan base is liberal and politically active, they wouldn't stand for that and it would cost the owners more than it would gain them.
 

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I caught a college basketball game on Fox, they use the song there.
One of the weirder crossovers, "Roundball Rock" was recently used for between segment promotions on...AEW Dynamite, WWE's erstwhile competition in pro wrestling. I think they've stopped using it, because it was so odd compared to the typical rock and rap tracks they would use.
 

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I can see the NBA approving SWFs of unsavory governments as minority shareholders. I can't see them approving a sale to them as a new owner. Maybe if it were Norway, then sure, but the NBA's fan base is liberal and politically active, they wouldn't stand for that and it would cost the owners more than it would gain them.
From the article:

The prospect of NBA ownership became possible late last
year after the league’s Board of Governors approved a rule
change to allow sovereign wealth funds to buy as much as a 20%
stake in teams. Previously, such funds could only do so through
indirect exposure.
While I agree that many SWFs have problematic holdings/people or are the arms of odious governments, its pretty common knowledge. Yet the governors approved them as potential buyers regardless.

Like the shoe or overall China issues or anything else in life, there is a price at which people can set aside morals and values. Opening up a market to more deep pocketed buyers suggests were are well past that level.

That said, I would consider any prospective investment by one of these entities to be subject to a much higher degree of scrutiny than other types of bidders.
 

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When people talk about contracts and franchise values, its important not to just look at recent examples of transactions to gauge the market but also consider other factors like inflation or new market entrants.

You want to see another leg up in player salaries and franchise values?

This is from a subscription piece on Bloomberg titled "NBA Teams Become Target for Gulf Sovereign Wealth Funds"



The article goes on to speculate that the Knicks might be one of the first targets given that its biggest shareholder, Silver Lake Management, already has deep ties with Abu Dhabi.

IMO, this has the potential to shift league economics more than people think as these funds tend to follow one another.
I thought you had to be Trump’s Son-in-Law to get this kind of action.
 

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I thought you had to be Trump’s Son-in-Law to get this kind of action.
As per the professional golf incursion by Saudi’s LIV, there are even more obnoxious amounts of money out there. It will eventually be made available as in Rollerball to the players, and especially to the owners.I’m cynical that some members of both groups will be able to resist. I’m hopefully to old to see it but that money will bring unavoidable and currently unforseeable change
 

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I’m a casual NBA fan living in Chicago and was just floored to see an SI.com cover story on Markkanen. For four years he was a slow, soft back up 4 who had a decent 3pt shot. I’m really happy for him - he’s seems like a good, hardworking dude. But the player described in the SI piece bears little resemblance to the guy Bulls fans soured on. Wow.