In-season NBA news thread
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Nice! I love that city. Spent a month living in Torlino Vimercati, near Pandino, and commuted into the city.
Mostly because Boston accidentally broke him. After winning the title in '08 the owners tightened the purse strings. The 2009 roster had two guys taller than 6'7", Garnett and Perkins. And in the preseason physical they found a potentially serious problem with Garnett's knee. As they hadn't signed anyone for insurance, and weren't prepared to enter the year with Kendrick Perkins and smaller guys, they gambled on Garnett making it through the year without the potentially serious injury happening. They lost. Made worse by the fact that popliteus injuries are so rare that there weren't a lot of sports injury specialists to deal with it.
It's a pity, because a simple arthroscopic procedure to remove the offending bone spur would have allowed KG to return by February and ramp up for the playoffs. The Celtics were one bad decision from a threepeat.
Yes, every Boston fan should pray that Jaylen makes an All NBA team. The salary difference at 30% is negligible (it's only a few million in the first three years, which are the ones that matter). But once that 35% max kicks in (with outside bidders capped at 30%) the difference is generational. It guarantees that Jaylen remains a Celtic as long as they want him. Or at least until his 13th season when they conceivably might not want to re-sign him.
Guys also like to get supermax'd, as a status thing. It would probably mean a lot to Jaylen to be one of Those Guys, contractually.
Rui shot 3's well last season. Not a bad move by the Lakers (but I'd never want him on the Celtics)
my biggest reaction from that is that Deuce is a pretty calm kid. If someone did that to me as a kid I think I would have had a full blown panic attack/meltdown
On the other hand, the King is bringing Rui in while banishing what feels like a Cavs 1.0-era teammate in Nunn to Washington all for the crimes of bricking shots all over the place and not offering any real defense.
Watching the Lakers over the past few weeks, it felt like opposing teams weren't even bothering to account for Nunn on D.
Hachimura gives the Lakers more length and a bit more D. Looking at talent alone, its kind of a nice little trade.
Yeah, I like this move for LA. And it bothers me when that occurs.
good trade for LA, makes some sense for WAS as well given they didn't seem interested in re-signing him.
Also, a good note of why 2nds do matter. Sure on draft night you can buy a mid to late 2nd for a couple million, but in-season future 2nds have some value.
Rui is young and tremendously athletic, on a team that doesn't have a lot of that. On a team led by 38yo James, 29yo Davis, 34yo Westbrook and 34yo Beverley, getting a 6'8" 24yo PF who can rebound, shoot the 3 and can be a big scoring threat on a 2nd unit is a good upgrade. I wouldn't like him guarding Grant on a drive on Saturday, even if I don't think he can really keep up with the Jays.
Agree with consensus, that's a nice trade value-wise for Lakers and also potentially a nice on-court fit at a very low price.
It does not really clarify the big-picture question of whether they are going to deal their future firsts or not, but maybe gives them a little better hand in thinking about that---both because it gives them "something" to tell LBJ if they don't and it also gives them a slightly more realistic "title contention" roster if they deal both for some big addition(s). One of the arguments several have made is that this roster isn't one guy away (at least not one guy you can get with Westbrook's salary and two unprotected picks years off)...this doesn't change that too too much but does help a bit with being able to wishcast.
They could have some cap space in offseason, so he impacts that a bit but only if they plan to resign him, which likely depends on the next few months of play and fit (and what LBJ wants to do himself)
I, of course, hope it fails miserably as a deal but at this cost downside is limited.
It does not really clarify the big-picture question of whether they are going to deal their future firsts or not, but maybe gives them a little better hand in thinking about that---both because it gives them "something" to tell LBJ if they don't and it also gives them a slightly more realistic "title contention" roster if they deal both for some big addition(s). One of the arguments several have made is that this roster isn't one guy away (at least not one guy you can get with Westbrook's salary and two unprotected picks years off)...this doesn't change that too too much but does help a bit with being able to wishcast.
They could have some cap space in offseason, so he impacts that a bit but only if they plan to resign him, which likely depends on the next few months of play and fit (and what LBJ wants to do himself)
I, of course, hope it fails miserably as a deal but at this cost downside is limited.
It would be hard to get done and PDX would have to figure out if it can even work from their side but another run at Lillard feels possible.
I must admit I'm puzzled by these reactions as seemed cute/fun to me, but...what the heck, maybe a reason I don't have kids.
My sense is that being on the court for Deuce is as safe a space as any he knows. My guess is he figured it could have been Uncle Marcus or Uncle Grant or Uncle Jaylen or . . .
Yeah, he's a 5 year old in a comfortable place for him, surrounded by people he recognizes, a freak out would be really out of place.
I think perhaps Rev hasn't spent as much time with kids as he thinks he has.
If Dad is in sight and Dad does not look freaked out, then everything is fine. In the first years of life, kids spend a lot of time looking at their parents and gauging the threat risk of any situation by how the parent looks. This is especially visible in the first couple years when kids get mobile and start exploring the environment. If you watch them, you will notice that every once in a while they look at their parents to see if what they are doing is “OK”. As long as the parent is nodding and smiling, they can go on with their exploration. If they look back and see the parent looking at them and looking horrified or scared, they will crawl or walk or run back to the parent as quickly as possible. This a great experiment to try on you toddler. Be aware, if you do it too much they will get used to it and ignore you, just like they do later.
This is 100%. Not to mention, there probably isn’t a safer place in the world both for Duece or for Jayson to feel his kid is safe……than the Boston Freakin Garden.
Can’t believe there have been numerous posts about what was obviously an endearing and playful little moment between a young child and a friend of his dads. So weird that anyone would try and make anything out of it.
Wait until you see his contact extension! I’m not a huge fan of the player but he’s serviceable and is the type of young guy that the Lakers could acquire as their options were limited. You can’t not like it if you’re a Laker fan.
Doesn't come close to moving the needle for a team that will be struggling to make the playin and will hardly be a favorite to advance very deep. So I can imagine some Laker fans shrugging their shoulders if not hating it altogether.
As I said, the Lakers have little to work with so no singular deal is going to move the needle. Hard to argue that adding a young quality rotation doesn’t help the team now and as one small piece over the next few years but I’m sure there will be Laker fans expecting more…..without recognizing that they don’t have to assets to acquire more.
To be fair, the clip made it look like Draymond has abducted many a 5 year olds in his day.
Yes, the Lakers have almost nothing to work with, so to pick up an actual NBA player for essentially nothing seems pretty good. The only way they will go anywhere anyway is if Anthony Davis grows some new stronger bones.
Paid.
View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1619456812113367041
The $17.1M renegotiation – largest in NBA history - is on top of Turner's $18M salary this season and gives him an annual average of $30M-plus through 2024-2025. Pacers secure Turner as part of core built around him and guard Tyrese Haliburton.
Indiana Pacers center Myles Turner has agreed on a two-year, $60M contract extension that includes an additional $17.1M renegotiation on his 2022-2023 salary, his agent Austin Brown of CAA Sports tells ESPN.
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The $17.1M renegotiation – largest in NBA history - is on top of Turner's $18M salary this season and gives him an annual average of $30M-plus through 2024-2025. Pacers secure Turner as part of core built around him and guard Tyrese Haliburton.
Indiana Pacers center Myles Turner has agreed on a two-year, $60M contract extension that includes an additional $17.1M renegotiation on his 2022-2023 salary, his agent Austin Brown of CAA Sports tells ESPN.
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My question here is why? Does he know something about Durant’s injury that suggests it’s worse than the reports? The Nets, with Durant, I believe can make a run and Kyrie can be a big part of that. He isn’t really going to go anywhere else that is a better situation.
My question here is why? Does he know something about Durant’s injury that suggests it’s worse than the reports? The Nets, with Durant, I believe can make a run and Kyrie can be a big part of that. He isn’t really going to go anywhere else that is a better situation.
He’s gone like a full month without being in the headlines. What better way, right?
So wild since he’s been quietly having a phenomenal season.
Kyrie spent about 2 months not doing anything dumb on social media, went to the GM and said... "give me a max extension", GM said.... nah.
So Kyrie spent the morning today posting Whitlock, Jordan Peterson and John Stockton, and demanded a trade. Basically his whole thing is... "pay me a max or I'll be a huge pain in the ass", but the Nets rightly know that if they give him the security of a 4 year deal he's immediately be posting conspiracy theory shit. The only way you get the Kyrie you want on and off the court is if he's going month to month.
So Kyrie spent the morning today posting Whitlock, Jordan Peterson and John Stockton, and demanded a trade. Basically his whole thing is... "pay me a max or I'll be a huge pain in the ass", but the Nets rightly know that if they give him the security of a 4 year deal he's immediately be posting conspiracy theory shit. The only way you get the Kyrie you want on and off the court is if he's going month to month.
The Kyrie thing really just brings up the bigger question......
Will the Nets reopen talks on Durant.
Nets aren't getting much for Kyrie and honestly may just ride out the year with him even if he is unhappy. KD is the real question.
Will the Nets reopen talks on Durant.
Nets aren't getting much for Kyrie and honestly may just ride out the year with him even if he is unhappy. KD is the real question.
I can’t imagine the Nets would keep Kyrie when they know he won’t be there next year when they can move him for something……plus not have to deal with him anymore. At worst he’ll get them back the value of a rental.
Well if they think they have a chance to win the title this year with Irving but less of a chance to win with whatever they’d get back, I can see why they’d keep him.
For example, imo they have no chance of making it to the ECF this year swapping Kyrie for Russ.
For example, imo they have no chance of making it to the ECF this year swapping Kyrie for Russ.
The possible long-term benefit of trading Kyrie now IF they can win without him, is you get to show Durant that the supporting cast is sufficient that he has a shot at a championship without dealing with Kyrie's brand of drama. Whereas if he leaves in the offseason instead, Durant will perceive the Nets are in a much worse position.
Of course the counterpoint is how the hell will the Nets win running the "brick brigade" of both Claxton and Simmons out there. Which makes me think you'd want to ship out Kyrie and Simmons in one fell swoop. It may have been Bill Simmons this week while doing the Ringer trade deadline discussion, who brought up a Jakob Poetl for Ben Simmons+ trade that would address a Nets need while the Spurs can try and develop Simmons out of the limelight.
Of course the counterpoint is how the hell will the Nets win running the "brick brigade" of both Claxton and Simmons out there. Which makes me think you'd want to ship out Kyrie and Simmons in one fell swoop. It may have been Bill Simmons this week while doing the Ringer trade deadline discussion, who brought up a Jakob Poetl for Ben Simmons+ trade that would address a Nets need while the Spurs can try and develop Simmons out of the limelight.
Hyland has been in the doghouse for several weeks now. Heard for awhile that the Nuggets been trying to move him. He makes Trae Young look like he’s defending with Pat Beverly intensity at times.