thats really awesome to be honest.I guess my son is almost 20.
he has two middle names. The second one was already chosen before this game—a family name on his mom’s side: Steele.
I added one to go before it: Roberts.
thats really awesome to be honest.I guess my son is almost 20.
he has two middle names. The second one was already chosen before this game—a family name on his mom’s side: Steele.
I added one to go before it: Roberts.
I don't even dislike him, just the long dormant media fawning. He didn't need to stretch for the ball and doing so cost him micro-seconds. If he had caught the ball at the base to tag across his body, instead of reaching out, it would have been quicker.I dislike Jeter as much as the next SoSHer, but that throw wasn't tailing into the bag. Jeter was going to have to come across his body with it regardless if he caught it out front or waited another split second.
Of curiosity to me has ways been, given Roberts' "great jump" and blazing speed, how was he almost out? Did Posada have incredible pop times? If that throw was on the corner of the bag, Roberts is OUT.
As I recall, the steal didn’t even becomes THE STEAL until Terry Francona started calling attention to it in interviews well after the series was over. It was one of those things where he kept saying something along the lines of “this was a big moment that people have been overlooking” to the point where now it’s the first thing anyone talks about from that game.Keep in mind the Yankees were up 3-0, and even if the Sox could squeak out that game, no one really thought they'd make history - instead it was a moral victory to not be humiliated in the series. In hindsight, we understand the significance more fully.
What a findJust discovered that the Red Sox are posting an interview video for each 2004 playoffs win. Here’s todays:
View: https://youtu.be/v-LgCMJAgbg?feature=shared
Make sure you watch all of them. In the ALDS Game 3 one DLowe said he was going home after getting demoted to the bullpen but Tek and Wake made him stay.What a find
Thanks
Same here! We trudged into the park to find we were front row of bleachers behind the Sox bullpen (had the partial season plan with random assignment of postseason tickets). Would have been an upgrade from our usual mid bleachers but they still had the damn prison fence behind the bullpen which wouldn't be removed for another year or two.Can’t believe it’s been 20 years. I remember walking into Fenway that cold, drizzly Sunday feeling like I was going to a funeral. Five hours and two minutes later I was just happy to at least not getting swept.
20 fucking years!
The whole 4 game run was just surreal. The Roberts steal and Mueller base-hit felt almost like the gods putting a plan into action. Small wheels in motion, leading to something much, much bigger. Game 5 was like a different version of the same story. Then you had Game 6, with Schilling taking the mound with a bloody sock - the entire game was like a sappy Hollywood movie where you have to suspend disbelief. The A-Rod glove slap was just icing on the cake - because it made the Yankees, for the first time in my baseball loving life, feel like losers. And not just any losers. Petty, frustrated, sore losers. Then their fans threw garbage onto their field. And it was delicious (the situation, not the garbage).For me it was when Damon scored the winning run in game 5....then I started to believe. Goosebumps just thinking about it.
I just got home from a day in the White Mountains, and hadn't checked the score yet. You sir, just made my day.
Please keep 'em coming!
Showtime or HBO had a documentary on them called Family Band. The documentary claims the Partridge Family show would have featured them; the father was such a tyrant and bad negotiator the network decided to go in a different direction.Had never heard about the Cowsills appearance. Strangely, their Wikipedia page claims they sang the anthem before game 4.
wikipedi claims they played befor game 4Showtime or HBO had a documentary on them called Family Band. The documentary claims the Partridge Family show would have featured them; the father was such a tyrant and bad negotiator the network decided to go in a different direction.
Exhaustion and exhilaration that week. Due to weather, games 3-7 were one after the other. No days off. Everyone was buzzing at work due to lack of sleep or hangovers or both.I'll admit I didn't watch "The Steal" live. I was living in Brussels at the time and watching each primetime game live basically meant going to work the next day without any sleep. After watching the Boone walk-off home run live in 2003 (and going almost straight to work in a bad mood) and watching games 1, 2 and 3 live on my computer in my apartment, I was too depressed after the game 3 beatdown to watch game 4. I was back in front of my computer for games 5, 6 and 7. At the start of game 7, I decided I wasn't going to be able to watch the Sox get eliminated by the MFY again in a game 7 while being sober, so I started drinking beers from the first inning. If they were going to get eliminated, at least it would sting less that way, I thought. After they won and I spent a good time jumping around the apartment at 6 a.m. (and waking up my wife), I slept for an hour or so, took a shower and went to work with a serious buzz but a huge smile on my face. Good times! Now at age 52 I'm not sure I would have the stamina to get through a week like that, it was mentally and physically exhausting...
Dave Roberts should be made aware of this.I guess my son is almost 20.
he has two middle names. The second one was already chosen before this game—a family name on his mom’s side: Steele.
I added one to go before it: Roberts.
Wait... wasn't there a rain-out after Game 6 that also worked in the Sox favor to get Lowe some rest or am I totally wrong??????Exhaustion and exhilaration that week. Due to weather, games 3-7 were one after the other. No days off. Everyone was buzzing at work due to lack of sleep or hangovers or both.
Just a surreal experience that I am so glad to have lived through.
He went on 2 days rest. Game 4 was 17th, 5 the 18th, 6 the 19th and 7 the 20th.Wait... wasn't there a rain-out after Game 6 that also worked in the Sox favor to get Lowe some rest or am I totally wrong??????
I'd also like to know where the Dream On montage can be found. I've been trying to find that one to no avail.Love this thread! Bringing back those same euphoric feelings in my upper chest from 20 frigging years ago. Deep breath...Just does not seem possible.
Thanks for digging out your old Keys @jose melendez, always a must read for me, and @reggiecleveland, Curtis Letspanic certainly came through when we needed him to!
Anybody remember that '04 interwebs video/photo montage of this series that featured the soundtrack of Smashing Pumpkins' Tonight Tonight? Loved that, and I can't find it anywhere...If anyone knows where to find it, I will be forever indebted to you.
Ahhh... thanks. I must have conflated "Back goes Sheffield" with "Back to Foulke".It was Back Goes Sheffield. After I joined I (too late) thought to use that as my SoSH handle.
<<doffs cap>>I guess my son is almost 20.
he has two middle names. The second one was already chosen before this game—a family name on his mom’s side: Steele.
I added one to go before it: Roberts.
What the hell am I mixing up????He went on 2 days rest. Game 4 was 17th, 5 the 18th, 6 the 19th and 7 the 20th.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2004_ALCS.shtml
Rain pushed out game 3 by a day so that's probably what you're thinking of.What the hell am I mixing up????
But geez... talk about a "horse"! I remember after the playoffs and Lowe and Pedro both were FA's thinking that Lowe was a better option to bring back just for that reason alone. Post Sox career, Lowe ended up a better signing than Pedro actually... sadly....
I don’t think this is true. Here’s Shank’s column from after Game 4, note the sub-head:As I recall, the steal didn’t even becomes THE STEAL until Terry Francona started calling attention to it in interviews well after the series was over. It was one of those things where he kept saying something along the lines of “this was a big moment that people have been overlooking” to the point where now it’s the first thing anyone talks about from that game.
Red Sox avert sweep as walkoff homer downs Yankees
You're right that he doesn't focus on the steal in the recap enough, but there are photos both of the steal itself (the famous photo) and Roberts celebrating after scoring the tying run.Steal, run by Dave Roberts in ninth key to comeback win
Even at the moment of the steal I remember thinking “Whoa, any other year he’s out at 2nd. Maybe we have something here.”As the Red Sox played small ball and Dave Roberts turned into Willie Mays Hays in "Major League," I could sense the tide turning.I spent the next excruciating hour (or was it five?) on my feet,willing Embree to get outs, begging Leskanic to retire Bernie Williams with the bases loaded in the top of the 11th inning. As Ortiz did it again and I engaged in awkward man-hugging, I was 15 years old and rooting for the '99 Sox again.
How about that game? Derek Lowe, left off the postseason rotation, pitched his heart out. Francona managed the game perfectly; Roberts came into the game and immediately broke for second. Everyone rose to the occasion. Curtis Leskanic, a veteran who had been hammered the night before, came up enormous. And you just knew that Papi was going to crush that ball. You could feel the walkoff coming.
Someone should write a book about that game.20th anniversary of Game 5 today. One of the greatest games ever played.
You kinda forget about that one, huh?20th anniversary of Game 5 today. One of the greatest games ever played.
These are fantastic. I could watch the entire 5 hour 45 minute game with commentary by the players spliced in.The Sox just posted the game 5 look back. Varitek attempts to catch the knuckleball and Papi just looking for Loiza’s cutter.
View: https://youtu.be/RhgBrojSUzY?si=aWkCIdn1udjOUCh4
And his home run in the 8th, down 4-2, is in my opinion the single most underrated moment of the entire series. It gets lost amongst the steal, walkoffs, Bellhorn, grand slam, slap, etc.Ortiz’ at bat before the walkoff in G5 is one of the best pieces of hitting you’ll ever see to keep fouling pitch after pitch off to stay alive. That at bat battle I think gets a bit lost, understandably so.
That homer gave the Sox a chance. They'd immediately follow it up with another run, and in that sequence, Rivera had another blown save, though he came into what was an almost impossible situation. Up a run, runner at third, nobody out. Pretty hard to keep that run from coming in.And his home run in the 8th, down 4-2, is in my opinion the single most underrated moment of the entire series. It gets lost amongst the steal, walkoffs, Bellhorn, grand slam, slap, etc.
For me it was the overturned call on Slappy. There was something so bush league, and so unusual to get a massive (if deserved) break, after getting the earlier overturned call on the Belllhorn HR, that seemed like the stars were aligned AND the Yankees were actually bullshit.Yup. I remember feeling in the moment that I was pleased that it wasn't officially over, but that they were just delaying the inevitable. It may have been Bellhorn's HR in Game 6 when I finally thought that they could do it.
I had two real emotions watching this.The Sox just posted the game 5 look back. Varitek attempts to catch the knuckleball and Papi just looking for Loiza’s cutter.
View: https://youtu.be/RhgBrojSUzY?si=aWkCIdn1udjOUCh4
I could listen to him talk about hitting all day. He was truly a master of his craft — the physical skill and the mental approach to maximize that skill. I wish some of that mental approach would rub off on our current hittersOrtiz’ at bat before the walkoff in G5 is one of the best pieces of hitting you’ll ever see to keep fouling pitch after pitch off to stay alive. That at bat battle I think gets a bit lost, understandably so.
Absolutely. I wish I were wearing a heart monitor during the top of the 9th (when Tony Clark's ground rule double juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust made it over the fence to stop Rueben Sierra at 3rd and save the series) and when Wakefield was on the mound in the top of the 13th and Varitek had no idea where the ball was going and Sheffield was on 3rd base (I had to turn my back to the TV -- I couldn't bear to think two years in a row the Yankees would beat us in extra innings of the ALCS because of this player I loved rooting for).There has not been another day where I was more "sports anxious" than the day of Game 5.
Once word got out that Schilling was going to go in game 6, I was in full blown freak out mode. I figured if we got to game 6, and our injured ace just didn't have it and we lost, then what can you do? But we HAD to get to game 6. We HAD to win at Fenway and make those fuckers go back to NY to beat us.
It's kind of wild to think just how out-of-my-mind I was at 2:37pm ET on 10/18/2004.
This may not be popular, but they should interview Schilling for game 6, and Damon for game 7. I don't like how the Yankees sold 2009 commemorative stuff without Arod in the pic, or tiny Arod in the corner. Game Six was Schilling, the slap, Bellhorn, and Foulke on Fumes. All those guys should be part of it. Both those guys have won that title and I will never pretend they were not part of it.The Sox just posted the game 5 look back. Varitek attempts to catch the knuckleball and Papi just looking for Loiza’s cutter.
View: https://youtu.be/RhgBrojSUzY?si=aWkCIdn1udjOUCh4