How much do you hate the Yankees?

[loneredseat]

It was nice to see the Dodgers beat the Yankees this year. Maybe more of a relief than anything, really. And the Dodgers have a team of players that are pretty easy to root for.
It looks like they just signed Snell, and they'll probably just keep adding and adding. Good for them.
So let's enter the world of hypotheticals.
Let's say they sign Soto.
And October finds the Dodgers and the Yankees facing off again. Personally, again I'm a Dodgers fan (for a couple weeks). Let's say the Dodgers send them packing again. And then in the off season, they reload again. Maybe sign Vlad. And in October of 2026 again, it's the Yankees and the Dodgers.
I'm sure you know where I'm going with this.
Is there a point? Is there a point in which you just want Goliath (LA) to fall and you're willing to route for the Yankees to see it happen? Or (dare I say it) maybe your heart starts to soften toward our perennial foes?
I've been thinking that this would be a good gauge of just how much you hate the Yankees. A simple vote of how many consecutive years you need to see them have their asses handed to them by the Dodgers before, well, you know...
Please feel free to include any little stories that exemplify how much you or yours hate the (as they are called in my house) "stankees." For example, when my son was 10 years old he shivered through a couple hours of a baseball game (it was really, really cold) rather than borrow a Yankees sweatshirt from a friend...

 

[themactavish]

I grew up a Sox fan in New York City. Seeing the Sox win is better than seeing NY lose for me, but it can often be very close. I certainly enjoyed the Dodgers beating NY in the series, but I especially enjoyed the Yankee meltdown in Game 5. I don't think I could ever tire of NY losing, and I definitely can't see ever rooting for them.

 

[ookami7m]

In one version of this question or another on this site someone’s answer was essentially “thy could go 0-162 for four straight years, start year five 0-161 and I would still swear at the tv when a winning score for game 162 scrolled by”

so yeah that.

 

[8slim]

I live amongst Yankees fans. They are the absolute worst.

My hate will burn like JFK's eternal flame.

 

[Remagellan]

I grew up across the river from NYC surrounded by MFY fans who twisted the knife about the Sox failures whenever they could. As far as I’m concerned, it would take the Red Sox winning championships for the next twenty years consecutively before I would even consider feeling a smidge of sympathy for them or their fans for their “drought”.

(And consider that, that even were that to occur, their drought still would be less than half of the one of ours that they mockingly celebrated with their “19-18” chants.)

In 1978, I had a teacher who, because he had seen me in the schoolyard with my red crown/blue-brimmed Sox cap on, would post the MFY and Red Sox scores from the day before on the blackboard every time the MFYs either gained ground or extended their lead, and say to me, “Your team is choking. Do you know what that means? It’s when you can’t breathe and then you die! That’s what your team is doing, DYING!”

Not in my lifetime…

 

[RS2004foreever]

2004 killed the bitterness. Bucky Dent they say? Rivera blew two straight saves. 27 titles they say. Yea, and how many are in this century? Billy Buckner, they say? David Ortiz, I answer.
We beat them in the playoffs in 2018 and 2021. I go to Yankee Stadium, and there are a significant number of Red Sox fans.

It's not the same - it will never be the same. Because it is no longer one sided. Watch the 30/30 on Jeter. '04 cut him deep. Posada has watched the replay of the Roberts steal over and over.

In 2004 the Red Sox stuck a knife in the Yankees and twisted it and watched them bleed out to the worst choke in sports history.

I spend a lot of time in the City - and the answer to every taunt from a Yankees fan is 2004 - and they know it. It shuts them up. They have ONE title in 22+ years.
By the way, I have never had a bad experience at Yankee Stadium—their fans are generally very knowledgeable.

 

[Huntington Avenue Grounds]

Had a moment before game 1 where I was team asteroid, but realized the stakes and quickly came around. Dodgers wins don't bother much, but MFY losses? Inject that shit into my veins.

Would I be bothered by 5 straight WS titles at the expense of MFY each time? Yes, my torn diaphragm would cause a great deal of discomfort, but not enough to stop laughing.

 

[Winger 03]

I save my ire for my Yankee brethren for guys like the one who "patrols the wall" in RF.



This guy and thousands like him wreck it for the rest of us.

 

[Sandy Leon Trotsky]

If this happens I wouldn't be against the Dodgers as much as I'm already so put off by the payroll discrepancies. There's gotta be some sort of hard budget cap and floor. Pirates fan see their team as basically a farm system for the big spenders. I've just about had it.... that said, as long as the system is what it is, I want the Sox to figure out how to be at the top of the spending teams as long as they do it smartly.

 

[Margo McCready]

They can face their 87th consecutive YED and my cold, dead body will still rise up to piss on their grave.

 

[Archer1979]

My version of two truths and a lie...

“He piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it.”

“...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.”

"He Tasks Me. He Tasks Me, And I Shall Have Him! I'll Chase Him 'Round The Moons Of Nibia, And 'Round The Antares Maelstrom, And 'Round Perdition's Flames Before I Give Him Up!"

― Herman Melville, Moby-Dick

 

[CarolinaBeerGuy]

I could always care less.

 

[Van Everyman]

I save my ire for my Yankee brethren for guys like the one who "patrols the wall" in RF.

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This guy and thousands like him wreck it for the rest of us.

Mookie should have leaped up into the seats and decked this asshole. The transformation from Red Sock to Dodger is now complete.

 

[Sille Skrub]

Not really being competitive for 5 of the past 6 years has hurt the rivalry for me.

They are one of the haves, we are one of the have nots. It doesn't even feel like we are in their league.

 

[jose melendez]

I keep wanting to write about how when I see Yankee hat around Europe I react like I would if I saw a swastika ball cap, but I keep my mouth shut because that's insane and offensive.

 

[BaseballJones]

Baseball as a sport probably is better when the Yankees are good. But the only correct answer here is "Not in 1000 lifetimes".

 

[Ale Xander]

Baseball as a sport probably is better when the Yankees are good.

Why?

F the Yankees

 

[BaseballJones]

Why?

F the Yankees

Having the big, bad Yankees is good for the sport, kind of like how it's probably better for basketball for the Celtics and Lakers - historical juggernauts - to be good. I didn't say "winning it all" but good. Those teams are the most polarizing, and garner the most interest, both from lovers and haters of those teams.

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

On one hand the Yanks are like every other team now that their dominance and their inevitability is greatly diminished--I actually harbor more of a grudge against the Rays.

BUT rooting against them and watching them lose to the Dodgers was nice. It was like wearing an old, comfy sweatshirt. Watching them lose to the Pirates or the Rockies or the Astros or the Angels will be nice too.

Let's put it this way, if I didn't root for the Yankees to win in 2001; I'm never, ever, ever going to root for the Yankees no matter who's playing against them.

 

[mwonow]

In one version of this question or another on this site someone’s answer was essentially “thy could go 0-162 for four straight years, start year five 0-161 and I would still swear at the tv when a winning score for game 162 scrolled by”

so yeah that.

I'm pretty sure that was @reggiecleveland . I still quote that line to people. Many of those same people look at me oddly, as they do when I celebrate YED (coincided with Halloween this year, no?). But whatever, I'm a product of my environment, and my environment includes MFY as villain #1, followed not-that-closely by the others in the pantheon, Habs and Lakers.

Not really being competitive for 5 of the past 6 years has hurt the rivalry for me.

They are one of the haves, we are one of the have nots. It doesn't even feel like we are in their league.

I always root for two teams, Sox and whoever is playing the MFY. Nothing is sweeter than a Sox win over the pinstripes. No matter what the records say. (and fwiw, there was a stretch of time when the WS count was 27-0 against us. As my brother said, "that's not a rivalry." Didn't stop me from acting like it was, though.)

 

[tims4wins]

Let's put it this way, if I didn't root for the Yankees to win in 2001; I'm never, ever, ever going to root for the Yankees no matter who's playing against them.

I would go as far as to say that the 2001 WS game 7 was one of my two favorite all time root against moments, along with the 2013 Super Bowl when Manning and the Broncos got smoked by Seattle.

 

[Sox Pride]

Gonna quote Shakespeare here:

"Had all his hairs been lives, my great revenge had stomach for them all."

 

[BaseballJones]

I'm pretty sure that was @reggiecleveland . I still quote that line to people. Many of those same people look at me oddly, as they do when I celebrate YED (coincided with Halloween this year, no?). But whatever, I'm a product of my environment, and my environment includes MFY as villain #1, followed not-that-closely by the others in the pantheon, Habs and Lakers.


I always root for two teams, Sox and whoever is playing the MFY. Nothing is sweeter than a Sox win over the pinstripes. No matter what the records say. (and fwiw, there was a stretch of time when the WS count was 27-0 against us. As my brother said, "that's not a rivalry." Didn't stop me from acting like it was, though.)

It was never, ever 27-0.

 

[Kliq]

In this hypothetical scenario, the Dodgers are the only thing keeping us from a bunch of consecutive Yankee titles--why would we ever turn against them?

 

[Delicious Sponge]

At the 2004 parade, some kids were chanting "YANKEES SUCK!"

An older man, probably in his 60s, yelled back at them "WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT ANYMORE!"

He's right, we don't NEED to do it. But it is awfully, deliciously, viscerally satisfying to bathe in the tears and disappointment of Yankee fans.

To quote "Hamilton," I will never be satisfied.

 

[reggiecleveland]

I'm pretty sure that was @reggiecleveland . I still quote that line to people. Many of those same people look at me oddly, as they do when I celebrate YED (coincided with Halloween this year, no?). But whatever, I'm a product of my environment, and my environment includes MFY as villain #1, followed not-that-closely by the others in the pantheon, Habs and Lakers.

That was me. Nice to be appreciated.

 

[tims4wins]

At the 2004 parade, some kids were chanting "YANKEES SUCK!"

An older man, probably in his 60s, yelled back at them "WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT ANYMORE!"

He's right, we don't NEED to do it. But it is awfully, deliciously, viscerally satisfying to bathe in the tears and disappointment of Yankee fans.

To quote "Hamilton," I will never be satisfied.

It was fantastic hearing that on Celts opening night while the MFY were getting ready for the WS

 

[The Gray Eagle]

It was never, ever 27-0.

What, you don't count all their championships from a million years ago while ignoring ours? Good luck ever working in sports media then.

 

[mwonow]

It was never, ever 27-0.

Gee, @BaseballJones , you're absolutely right! From the day after the 1918 WS ended to the day the final out was recorded in 2024, it was only 26-0.

Glad you stepped in to clear THAT up!

 

[NYCSox]

They can face their 87th consecutive YED and my cold, dead body will still rise up to piss on their grave.

This poster gets it.

 

[BaseballJones]

What, you don't count all their championships from a million years ago while ignoring ours? Good luck ever working in sports media then.

Gee, @BaseballJones , you're absolutely right! From the day after the 1918 WS ended to the day the final out was recorded in 2024, it was only 26-0.

Glad you stepped in to clear THAT up!

The Sox won 5 World Series' before the Yankees ever won one. I figure if we're counting World Series' championships from a century ago, we shouldn't NOT include Boston's won in the early 1900s, right? If Yankee fans are going to cherry pick and say, "Our titles in the 1920s count, but your titles in the 1910s don't count," well, screw them. If all those old, pre-integration titles count for the Yankees, they also count for the Red Sox.

Clearly it's been a one-sided rivalry over the course of MLB history. Nobody is arguing otherwise.

But it's never been 27-0, or 26-0, or anything-0 (in favor of NY), unless Yankee fans are cherry-picking time frames to specifically leave out Boston championships.

 

[BrandyWhine]

During baseball season I check the scores, of course. Two things make me happy, when the Sox win and when the Yankees lose.
I wish I was a better person and could let go of the hate but I can't.
Over the years, I have had great respect for some Yankees; Mariano, Jeter (grudgingly but he came through in "the clutch" a lot), and currently Aaron Judge.
The Red Sox multiple championships since the awful days help, but the hate is still there.
If the Sox don't get Soto, I hope the Mets do.
And, if the Yankees sign Soto I hope he catches Mike Trout disease - you know, the one where the player looks like the MVP for 25 games then gets injured and misses the rest of the season.

 

[Big Papi's Mango Salsa]

I'm in the "5" option here, as are many others.

I'm a big college sports fan, so I always use the term "sports hate" as in "I sports hate" this program or "I sports hate" that program because it would take a really dysfunctional individual to truly hate a bunch of 18-22 year old college kids. There is no "sports" in front of how I feel about the Yankees.

 

[beautokyo]

Pudge and I know the same feeling of hatred.

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

When we were walking on 42nd street 10 days ago, I only had to be told “NO” twice by my wife when I asked if I could go into the Yankees Clubhouse Store and ask if they had any recent World Series Videos.

Since I know better than to disagree with her, I’d say it’s she who has let up on her Yankee hate, not me, because she used to encourage that behavior. And she was even a Mets fan before I converted her to the Red Sox.

Do I need to leave her?

 

[RS2004foreever]

The Sox won 5 World Series' before the Yankees ever won one. I figure if we're counting World Series' championships from a century ago, we shouldn't NOT include Boston's won in the early 1900s, right? If Yankee fans are going to cherry pick and say, "Our titles in the 1920s count, but your titles in the 1910s don't count," well, screw them. If all those old, pre-integration titles count for the Yankees, they also count for the Red Sox.

Clearly it's been a one-sided rivalry over the course of MLB history. Nobody is arguing otherwise.

But it's never been 27-0, or 26-0, or anything-0 (in favor of NY), unless Yankee fans are cherry-picking time frames to specifically leave out Boston championships.

My Kid - now 31 - gets none of this.
To him it is Red Sox 4, Yankees 1 and those titles before 1980 are to him what the Red Sox titles before 1918 were to me.
He once compared them to College Football Titles. Princeton and Yale have the most - and no one cares one bit about them except their most absurd alumni (which given the alumni I work with from those two schools might be redundant)

 

[BaseballJones]

My Kid - now 31 - gets none of this.
To him it is Red Sox 4, Yankees 1 and those titles before 1980 are to him what the Red Sox titles before 1918 were to me.
He once compared them to College Football Titles. Princeton and Yale have the most - and no one cares one bit about them except their most absurd alumni (which given the alumni I work with from those two schools might be redundant)

I get this. If we want to go based on the lifespans of people my age (mid-50s), it's Yankees 6, Red Sox 4.

Yankees: 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000
Red Sox: 2004, 2007, 2013, 2018

Edge: Yankees, of course, but nothing like 27-0 or whatever.

On this note, it's difficult for me to get too amped up about Boston Celtics' banners in the early 60s. Not that they don't count, but I wasn't alive for them so it's like talking about what a great chariot riding champion Gaius Appuleius Diocles was.

 

[RS2004foreever]

I get this. If we want to go based on the lifespans of people my age (mid-50s), it's Yankees 6, Red Sox 4.

Yankees: 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000
Red Sox: 2004, 2007, 2013, 2018

Edge: Yankees, of course, but nothing like 27-0 or whatever.

On this note, it's difficult for me to get too amped up about Boston Celtics' banners in the early 60s. Not that they don't count, but I wasn't alive for them so it's like talking about what a great chariot riding champion Gaius Appuleius Diocles was.

The fans of fading dynasties are a sad lot. I agree completely about the Celtic banners from the 60's (though they are hardly fading). I took my kid to Montreal for a Canadian's game a couple of years ago. All of those banners - and the memories I have of the teams of the 1970's. To him those teams are just images from TV before Hi-def. Who cares who Guy Lefluer was? But man to me he was Bucky Dent.
Man I hope that doesn't happen to Pat's fans.

 

[EvilEmpire]

I get this. If we want to go based on the lifespans of people my age (mid-50s), it's Yankees 6, Red Sox 4.

Yankees: 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000
Red Sox: 2004, 2007, 2013, 2018

Forgot 2009. 7-4.

 

[BaseballJones]

Forgot 2009. 7-4.

DAMMIT

 

[pdub]

Back in the day when the rivalry was intense, and I was younger, I definitely "hated" them. That said, I will never cheer for them under any circumstance. In fact, one reason I want Soto in Boston is because I think NY is going to boo him hard, and maybe that will re-kindle the rivalry. Baseball needs that rivalry back.

 

[astrozombie]

Not sure how to answer the poll, but my two cents: I used to sports hate them a lot, which occasionally led to some actual anger because members of my family are yankees fans and would harangue me about it (either converting to the yankees or that the sox in general sucked) outside of games. After 2004, a lot of that went away, both because the Sox won and the yankees collapsed in epic fashion. It took the temperature down a lot so as to be manageable. The Sox winning more since then only reinforced that.
Do I still want the yankees to lose? Yes, of course. But it does not seem as dire or charged as it once did. The yankees going to the WS is met more with a shrug than with the exasperation and frustration I used to feel.
Finally, consider me among those who *hate* the "Yankees Suck" chants and have since before 2004. It seems like these thankfully decreased after 2004, but I don't think they did (or ever will) fully go away.

 

[E5 Yaz]

This is another reason the NFL dominates. Over my life, you have the Packers, Steelers, Dolphins, Redskins, 49ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Patriots, Giants, Ravens and Chiefs have each had their runs as the league's Big Bad. I find that far more interesting than relying on historical dynasties like the Yankees or the Celtics/Lakers to drive the narrative.

That said, while I don't "hate" the Yankees anymore, YED remains one of the highlights of the sports calendar

 

[chawson]

I don't especially hate the Yankees right now. There's a kind of muscle memory that kicks in when we're playing them and it's fun to lean into that, certainly ramped up in October.

For story-building reasons, I don't want them to win postseason games. But I’m not bothered by any of the personalities on their current roster and besides the special case that is Verdugo, I haven't disliked anyone since Donaldson.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

I hate the MFY less than I used to.

George Steinbrenner is long gone, and none of the Yankee anti-heroes hold a candle to him when it comes to just the purest of contempt. Their current hero, Judge, doesn't seem like all that bad a guy. I really respect and appreciate our SoSH colleagues over at the old Radomski Lounge. And most of all, I married a Yankee fan, and one of my sons is a very passionate Yankee fan, and I don't like seeing them sad or angry or disappointed.

I mean, the answer clearly still is "Not in 1000 lifetimes"... but back in 2004, the answer was probably "Not in 2000 lifetimes". I hate no sports team remotely as much as I hate the Yankees today.

 

[nighthob]

I hate the Yankees enough that when the Red Sox celebrate the 50th anniversary of Fisk’s home run by completing another 3-0 comeback against the MFY, that I want it to be Soto that belts the walk-off.

 

[Yo La Tengo]

one reason I want Soto in Boston is because I think NY is going to boo him hard, and maybe that will re-kindle the rivalry. Baseball needs that rivalry back.

Full agreement on this point and I think Soto is wired to thrive in that atmosphere.

 

[Pesky Pole]

I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s on the shoreline of CT. We were pretty much on the border of the two fandoms and people were split nearly 50-50. So all those disappointments were compounded by the loss and the ensuing smugness. I’ll never get over hating the Yankees. Yes, 2004 softened things maybe 3% but I can ratchet it up for the playoffs quite easily. I’ll still answer the question “how did the people in your town decide to be NYY or Red Sox fans?” with “it’s based on IQ”.

 

[Sausage in Section 17]

Forgot 2009. 7-4.

OK, but Mark Teixeira was on your team. That's gotta be some kind of asterisk.

 

[The_Dali]

I have an irrational hatred of the Yankees which will never be quenched. Or matched.

But I’m definitely not loving the Dodgers either.