How many regular season games do the Patriots play this season?

So? How many, you troutmouth?

  • 0

    Votes: 79 30.4%
  • 1-4

    Votes: 46 17.7%
  • 5-8

    Votes: 47 18.1%
  • 9-12

    Votes: 40 15.4%
  • 13-15

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • 16

    Votes: 43 16.5%

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BunnzMcGinty

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As recently as two or three weeks ago I thought they’d start the season and get at least 8-10 games in before a second wave shutdown forced a stoppage, but with the spike in the south and the west showing no signs of even slowing down, I don’t think we’re going to see a season at all.
 

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I took 9-12 because, I believe, at some point it's going to be a "here they come ready or not" situation.
 

bigq

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I voted 1-4. I think the NFL will fight to start a season but ultimately shut it down.
 

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0. Can’t see this getting controlled in the next couple months and too many players could decide it’s not worth it.
 

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its a logistical nightmare with as many players as it takes to field a football team and america seemingly has no interest in doing whats necessary to make this virus go away so here we are.
 

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I think a September start is increasingly in doubt, but I would not discount the season shifting to a December--April timetable with the Superbowl theoretically being played in May. They may lose 4 games, so lets say a 12-game schedule.
 

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0 because just today MLB's best player raised concerns. If Mike Trout is having a hard time seeing a sport that doesn't require you be near anyone else, I'm having a hard time seeing football resume. All it is going to take is a handful of players to say something for that dam to break.

That said, I think the second most likely is 16. The NFL is stubborn. I can't see them giving up halfway through a season.
 

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V&N regulars know that sometimes I'm (nearly) the most cynical person there, and other times I'm positively panglossian.

This is one of the former. The owners truly believe that they're the ranchers and the players are the cattle. Trump, too, has a lot riding on the NFL being a bellwether of America's ability to return to something approaching normality. The players' union is weak: careers are short, strike funds are minimal, they rarely apply decent leverage in CBA negotiations. Every force trends in the direction of: they will plow ahead, damn the torpedoes, and dare a Governor or Mayor to try and tell a team they can't play.

I think a better question will be how many games end up allowing fans, out of the 256. Then you're doing the math of # of franchises * how early each will start.
 

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16, because most players need the money and can’t sacrifice a year of a short career and the owners don’t generally give a shit about player health.
 

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V&N regulars know that sometimes I'm (nearly) the most cynical person there, and other times I'm positively panglossian.

This is one of the former. The owners truly believe that they're the ranchers and the players are the cattle. Trump, too, has a lot riding on the NFL being a bellwether of America's ability to return to something approaching normality. The players' union is weak: careers are short, strike funds are minimal, they rarely apply decent leverage in CBA negotiations. Every force trends in the direction of: they will plow ahead, damn the torpedoes, and dare a Governor or Mayor to try and tell a team they can't play.

I think a better question will be how many games end up allowing fans, out of the 256. Then you're doing the math of # of franchises * how early each will start.
I think the NFL would play the entire 256 regular season schedule in a fan-free environment if they have to, to cash the network TV checks, which account for about 2/3 of total revenues. They may try to social distance seating to drive some gate revs, but the asses on the couch at home are the ones FOX/ESPN/CBS/NBC give a shit about.
And 66% of the loaf is better than none.

And I agree the owners are probably mostly indifferent which head of cattle are needed to bring to market, but they probably really want the marquee guys to maintain quality and protect and drive ratings.
 
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It's not the players; they're the ones in the best shape.

It's the coaching staffs, the referees and the auxiliary personnel. The chances of an older person, not particularly healthy, not only getting the disease but ending up on a ventilator (or worse).

That will shut the entire thing down.
 

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I voted 5-8. I think they get just under half a season in before the players start dropping like flies and they shut it down.
 

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I can’t see how they do it.

I wonder what the plan is for when teams’ QBs get it and it rips through the QB position. Teams are gonna need a lot of depth. But the more guys you have on the team, the more people you’ve got in close contact with one another. Which makes it more problematic.

But you can lose three wide receivers and still play. You can’t lose three quarterbacks and still play.
 

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It's not the players; they're the ones in the best shape.

It's the coaching staffs, the referees and the auxiliary personnel. The chances of an older person, not particularly healthy, not only getting the disease but ending up on a ventilator (or worse).

That will shut the entire thing down.
This is it. A couple dead equipment managers and it starts to look pretty grim (unless their names are Jastremski and McNally).
 

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I think the NFL would play the entire 256 regular season schedule in a fan-free environment if they have to, to cash the network TV checks, which account for about 2/3 of total revenues. They may try to social distance seating to drive some gate revs, but the asses on the couch at home are the ones FOX/ESPN/CBS/NBC give a shit about.
And 66% of the loaf is better than none.

And I agree the owners are probably mostly indifferent which head of cattle are needed to bring to market, but they probably really want the marquee guys to maintain quality and protect and drive ratings.
They'd certainly prefer getting to play in empty stadiums than aiming for full stands and risking getting no games. I just think that once they open up and nobody has stopped them, they'll start thinking "how can we put 10k people in the stands, distanced", and that'll become 20k in some places, then 30k. Lots of fans won't care, they'll sign the waivers. They'll point to local statistics wherever it's convenient, or bray about "Freedom!" whenever it's not.

I also consider myself as one who takes the Panglossian view most of the time. Not here.

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That IS the panglossian view! It's the supposition that they prioritize health, safety and concern for others over making money. History suggests they won't, but I certainly hope you're right (barring a vaccine in wide distribution ASAP).
 

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I voted for 9-12 purely because of the track record of sheer greed that the NFL and its owners have historically shown. They will force it — play games — players and staff will get sick - and then they decide to shorten things for playoffs to ensure they have a Superbowl.
 

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That IS the panglossian view! It's the supposition that they prioritize health, safety and concern for others over making money. History suggests they won't, but I certainly hope you're right (barring a vaccine in wide distribution ASAP).
Au contraire, monsieur! A true Panglossian would be hoping for games to be played!

America needs its national pastime!
 

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Au contraire, monsieur! A true Panglossian would be hoping for games to be played!

America needs its national pastime!
Which is precisely why it's going to be played, mon ami. Freedom is doing what you want while not having to consider the feelings or safety of others.

America, fuck yeah.
 

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It's the coaching staffs, the referees and the auxiliary personnel. The chances of an older person, not particularly healthy, not only getting the disease but ending up on a ventilator (or worse).
Obesity is a co-morbidity with the virus. How many obese staff do you think are around the teams? So is diabetes and heart disease. None of the staff have these medical issues?

I'm surprised we haven't heard more about this, from any sport. None of the coaches or staff were consulted about conditions (afaik), and yet we haven't heard of anyone who wants to coach over Zoom or whatever.

I'm left to guess that coaches (and referees) wouldn't mind dying for their vocation.
 

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I can't get my head around the logistics at all. And I'm guessing that many of the players who have money in the bank will give several months of bubbling a pass. But...six games, all intra-division, and then playoffs with divisional champs?
 

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They'd certainly prefer getting to play in empty stadiums than aiming for full stands and risking getting no games. I just think that once they open up and nobody has stopped them, they'll start thinking "how can we put 10k people in the stands, distanced", and that'll become 20k in some places, then 30k. Lots of fans won't care, they'll sign the waivers. They'll point to local statistics wherever it's convenient, or bray about "Freedom!" whenever it's not.
I assume that Goodell has instructed teams to develop contingency plans for social distance seating and safe entry/exit and all other contingencies (from parking to peeing) needed to safely accomodate fans and all possible needs. But given the resilence of this disease, I'm doubtful they will be put into play.

IMO a herd mentality will be in place, long before there is herd immunity, and there will be one league policy and not a franchise by franchise policy.

If a rogue owner opens to soon (and jeeze who might be too fucking selfish and stupid to assume they know better and can game plan Covid-yes Jerry I'm looking at you) and 2 weeks later his market gets re-infected, the blow-back would be massive. And probably not limited to just to the idiot rogue owner.

So if they can play, (and my bet is that may delay the start of the season) they'll limit health risk as much as possible, play fan-free and take the 2/3 of a loaf.
 

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They're going to play the full season. Fans will be in attendance everywhere except California and maybe NY and NE. And every week people will get sick and die from Coronavirus spread in stadiums and a few players will get sick. And we will shake our heads and mutter and go right back to watching the games.
 
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A semi-related hypothetical: The Pats get upset WEEK ONE - Cam is hurt, not ready, Flores gameplans well, Stidham throws four picks, whatever - then they lose in Seattle WEEK TWO. COVID outbreak around the league, NFL shuts down. Patriots at 0-2 are among a handful of winless teams. Does the NFL draft off those records? If the Patriots are in line for the #1 pick and the nfl opts for a weighted lottery or something, does patriots nation lose its mind? If the Pats get the #1 pick based off of two games, how hilarious would it be to watch the NFL’s head explode?
 

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A semi-related hypothetical: The Pats get upset WEEK ONE - Cam is hurt, not ready, Flores gameplans well, Stidham throws four picks, whatever - then they lose in Seattle WEEK TWO. COVID outbreak around the league, NFL shuts down. Patriots at 0-2 are among a handful of winless teams. Does the NFL draft off those records? If the Patriots are in line for the #1 pick and the nfl opts for a weighted lottery or something, does patriots nation lose its mind? If the Pats get the #1 pick based off of two games, how hilarious would it be to watch the NFL’s head explode?
Then a new scandal will emerge and they’ll lose the pick.
 

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I think the NFL has the pockets and the proper planning to get it done. College football, on the other hand, is a long shot to have a season.
 

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I didn't see 19 as an option??

My head tells me 0 but my heart voted 5-8. They are going to want some amount of money this year too badly, especially the fringe players.
 

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Seems the prudent thing would be to follow the bubble lead of the NBA, picking a a few host Cities with multiple stadiums. You’d then have divisional teams and their opposite conference opponents in the bubble. For example, the AFC East and NFC West are matched up this year, so you’d have 9 games plus a bye week without leaving a bubble... or about three months factoring in some preseason/scrimmage/training camp type activity.

As they play those and we get into thanksgiving/December, the league can determine if it makes sense to add the rest of the schedule, or move to an abbreviated schedule where the playoffs start after 9 games in another bubble type set up.

So far we haven’t heard that type of plan, which makes me doubt they are successful in getting a season in.
 

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They're going to play the full season. Fans will be in attendance everywhere except California and maybe NY and NE. And every week people will get sick and die from Coronavirus spread in stadiums and a few players will get sick. And we will shake our heads and mutter and go right back to watching the games.
They simply can't have fans in attendance. The NFL will literally ban it -- there's no way they allow it. The NFL is already killing their players, there's no way they also kill their fans.
 

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Yeah I had to read Laddie’s post twice. I mean if there’s nobody there who buys the beer?

There are always replacement players and replacement fans.
 

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I voted 16, because the NFL generally only seems to be concerned about the NFL and they pretty much do what they want - I think they figure out a way, regardless of what possibly may happen in the fall/winter with regards to Covid
 

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Well, despite Baker's announcements last week, the Pats haven't given up on any options yet:

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