Hot Stove RUMORS Thread
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The Giants beat writers on twitter are saying the Giants are about to give Tim Hudson a 2-year deal worth $23 million.
David Murphy to the Indians and Josh Johnson to the Padres
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10003949/josh-johnson-san-diego-padres-agree-one-year-8m-deal
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/11/source-david-murphy-leaves-texas-rangers-for-cleveland-indians.html/?nclick_check=1
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10003949/josh-johnson-san-diego-padres-agree-one-year-8m-deal
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/11/source-david-murphy-leaves-texas-rangers-for-cleveland-indians.html/?nclick_check=1
https://twitter.com/TomLoxas/status/403035291683811328
Assuming the Cubs then sign him long-term, you can hang a lot of dreams on a Cubs 2016 lineup of Wieters, Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, Castro, Soler, Almora and fill-in-the-blank.
MakMan44 said:
If it's happened, it's not a rumor. Please put this in the Hot Stove Transaction forum.
Thanks.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-mets-ike-davis-trade/
Ryan Braun "rumors" are beginning with a potential trade to the Mets involving Ike Davis.
Braun will be paid an AAV of $16 million over the next years through his age 36 season which is pretty affordable if you're still high on him considering his consistency over the last six years and the fact that you're likely getting Braun at 7 years for less money than what Ellsbury/Choo will receive for five seasons worth of play.
Ryan Braun "rumors" are beginning with a potential trade to the Mets involving Ike Davis.
Braun will be paid an AAV of $16 million over the next years through his age 36 season which is pretty affordable if you're still high on him considering his consistency over the last six years and the fact that you're likely getting Braun at 7 years for less money than what Ellsbury/Choo will receive for five seasons worth of play.
7/113 is $16MM/year. It is over his age 30-37 seasons which is less than ideal but I don't know if I would call it a giant contract.
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Agreed.
It would be an Upton-like situation similar to last year where the Diamondbacks were selling incredibly low on a guy for subjective reasons that I couldn't care less about.
Braun has a career slash line of 312 / 374 / 564 / 938 having played full seasons (113 games in rookie season followed by 151, 158, 157, 150, 154...) his entire career before the abrupt end this season. You can believe those numbers are inflated as a result of the PED use but with OPS's of 1.004, 888, 937, 866, 994, 987, and then 869 this past season in which he knew he was going to be suspended; it's impressive consistency in my opinion.
He would be a good fit in left field at Fenway for $101 million through 2020 w/ a $15 million dollar option or a $4 million dollar buy out in 2021, especially if the Brewers can chip in some money. If he's owed on average a guaranteed $14.42 over the next seven seasons currently (plus the $4 million dollar buy out) and you can get that contract down to $10-$12 million, it's well worth the risk.
You might be able to overlook Braun's character flaws, but I don't think the Sox will given their stated desire to have high character guys on the team. Braun lied repeatedly, tried to use anti-Semitism as reason for his failed test, and is one of the most disliked players by his peers. I like his numbers, don't like him and his baggage. I would pass, and I think (and hope) the Red Sox do so as well.
Didn't he personably call Brewers fans and apologize? Maybe the whole experience humbled him. I for one, would be willing to roll the dice on him if the price were similar to what the Braves have up for Justin Upton. Something like JBJ and Barnes....
SoxLegacy said:
Per Bob Dutton (via Twitter), the Royals will make a "major baseball-related announcement" at 5pm ET today.
And he's not referring to the Vargas signing? I wouldn't think so, either, because the Vargas deal doesn't classify as "major."maufman said:
Sox and Rocks said:
Evidently, it was the Vargas signing.
My post was a bit misleading -- Dutton was quoting someone else saying it was a "major" announcement. If Dutton knew it was Vargas, I'm sure he would've just reported that, rather than being coy.
Rangers still open to dealing either Andrus or Profar.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4253/elvis-andrus
It would be fascinating to see what they could get for Profar. I would think quite a bit. Maybe he technically isn't a "prospect" anymore now that he's had 341 plate appearances in the majors (I don't really know how that works), but he's just 20 and immensely talented.
So let's say they can move him and get a nice package in return. From what I've read, they have a lot of room in their budget, so not having Profar for 2b opens the door for Cano. Imagine the Rangers essentially moving Kinsler and Profar and adding Fielder and Cano and some prospects? Holy smokes.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4253/elvis-andrus
It would be fascinating to see what they could get for Profar. I would think quite a bit. Maybe he technically isn't a "prospect" anymore now that he's had 341 plate appearances in the majors (I don't really know how that works), but he's just 20 and immensely talented.
So let's say they can move him and get a nice package in return. From what I've read, they have a lot of room in their budget, so not having Profar for 2b opens the door for Cano. Imagine the Rangers essentially moving Kinsler and Profar and adding Fielder and Cano and some prospects? Holy smokes.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m
Source: #Angels trade Bourjos to #STLCards. Freese presumably going to Anaheim. That part presently unconfirmed.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m
Again: Bourjos traded to #STLCards. #Angels had been seeking outfielder for Freese. Not known if others involved.
Source: #Angels trade Bourjos to #STLCards. Freese presumably going to Anaheim. That part presently unconfirmed.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m
Again: Bourjos traded to #STLCards. #Angels had been seeking outfielder for Freese. Not known if others involved.
Taveras in CF always made the most sense if they either resigned Beltran or played Craig full time in an outfield corner. It looks like the Beltran ship is sailing and my guess is that Craig suffering yet another lower body injury (he has basically hurt everything below the waist at one time or another) has soured them considerably on the idea of playing him every day in the OF. Bourjos seems like a good fit as a backup OF and the short side of a CF platoon, given Jay's struggles against LHP.MakMan44 said:
The big loser here is probably Matt Adams.
I understand and agree with most of the negative reaction toward Braun's off-field character stuff, but I also know that John Lackey was widely despised by almost everyone (especially baghdadjamie) on SoSH and is now revered as a hero. Did he change his demeanor or mannerisms on the field? No. Did he help us win games, especially games that mattered? Hell, yes. Not saying that winning cures all ills, but I could see Braun arriving in Boston, making a huge mea culpa to everyone he hurt before, and then becoming wildly applauded when he puts up near-MVP quality numbers for a few years as we pursue more championships.
Drek717 said:
Geez, if they have enough money to get Cano, dealing Profar for Miller makes a ton of sense. I have no clue why he didn't pitch for StL in the WS, but the kid is a tremendous talent. Just 23, 3.06 era, 1.21 whip, 8.8 k/9, 93.5 mph average on his fastball. Deal Profar for Miller, sign Cano, and their offense improves greatly from last year, and their rotation becomes: Darvish, Holland, Miller, Ogando, and Perez.
Pretty nice.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal1m
Source: McCann deal with #Yankees is 5/85 with sixth-year vesting option that could bring it to 6/100.
Source: McCann deal with #Yankees is 5/85 with sixth-year vesting option that could bring it to 6/100.
I was just thinking the same thing. Probably depends on whether or not they think Wong is ready to be handed a starting position.
@JonHeymanCBS team that offered $52M for 4 yrs for peralta was told they're not even in game. will be fascinating how high it goes.
Brianish said:
They traded Freese so they could move Carpenter back to 3B where he belongs, and open a spot for Wong.
@jonmorosi: Jhonny Peralta is expected to get a 4-year contract from the Cardinals, source said. @jcrasnick first reported deal was close.
This is really remarkable to me. A guy who turns 32 early in the season, who is a negative defender, who has basically been an average hitter over his career, and is coming off a suspension for steroids is going to get a 4 year deal that is...presumably in the 60-70 million dollar range!? And in the NL where he can't even be moved to DH? The hell?
THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL demand that they get someone to not suck at the position, completely ignoring the fact that Peralta still sucks at the position, just in a different way than the last guy.Ed Hillel said:
Granted, it's an improvement, and I wouldn't be remotely surprised to see the Cards back in the Series next year, but holy christ that's a lot of money for a guy like him.
Hoplite said:
Yup.
I'd be more concerned about his .374 BABIP last year and the possibility that aging and the steroids bust mean that he'll never regain his former power.
Hoplite said:
Huh, I just looked at his career numbers, that's a really strange career arc. He did have a significant dropoff last year, even factoring in the injury, but it was still a positive. I don't know how I'd project him over the next 4 years.