Heyman: Ellsbury to sign seven-year deal with Yankees

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Just said this twice: "It was an easy decision to make."
 
I've always felt comfortable playing at YS.
 
Kay: Are you a HR hitter or not?
 
Ells: I try to impact the game in all phases.
 
Revealed that he once dressed as Damon for Halloween.
 

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You really see him being healthy for those 57-76 games?  I'd like to see them get rid of Gardner because that is the pain in the ass that I do not want to see 19 times next year.
 

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Harry and Drew...yeah, I saw that.  That's why I was surprised that he didn't mention them by name.  Often, the press dept will try to script some of the answers.  I actually don't think they coached him on that.  I think he was just trying to suck up to NYY fans who see him as one of the faces of their rival.
 
Lucky Ben...couldn't agree more about hoping the NYY trade Gardner this off-season even though he can be a FA after 2014.
 

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Vernon Wells being released will be the happiest moment of this offseason for me thus far, if and when it happens. 
 

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Can anyone confirm that Girardi actually said about Ellsbury "You are no longer a thorn in my side; you are a flower in our clubhouse."
 
Whatever, I'm sigging it.
 

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Reading between the lines, I thought Ellsbury understands he's going into a rebuilding era for the Yankees. He kept mentioning his "7 or 8" seasons in NY. He admitted he was fortunate to be on teams that won twice, in his first and last years, in Boston. Ellsbury will be comfortable as one of the key pieces in the puzzle. He isn't a team leader, as we all know around here. If the Yankees try to build around him, he will wilt. The next leaders are Teixeira and McCann among position players.
 

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Can anyone confirm that Girardi actually said about Ellsbury "You are no longer a thorn in my side; you are a flower in our clubhouse."
 
Whatever, I'm sigging it.


I watched, that was it, give or take a word or so.
 

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terrynever said:
Reading between the lines, I thought Ellsbury understands he's going into a rebuilding era for the Yankees. He kept mentioning his "7 or 8" seasons in NY. He admitted he was fortunate to be on teams that won twice, in his first and last years, in Boston. Ellsbury will be comfortable as one of the key pieces in the puzzle. He isn't a team leader, as we all know around here. If the Yankees try to build around him, he will wilt. The next leaders are Teixeira and McCann among position players.
 
 
Translation 1: Don't try to hang me if I have a crappy 2 months out of the gate.
 
Translation 2: I am NOT the straw that stirs the drink.
 

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uilnslcoap said:
Can anyone confirm that Girardi actually said about Ellsbury "You are no longer a thorn in my side; you are a flower in our clubhouse."
 
Whatever, I'm sigging it.
Flower in the clubhouse?? Really?? I guess Joe takes the Dreamboat nickname to heart. You should throw flowers on the field on his first visit to Fenway.   
 

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Levine said something along the lines of: "Cano is 31 and you just don't sign a 31-year old to a 10-year deal. But take Mike Trout (he's 22) and yes, I'd do a 10-year deal with him."
 
Doesn't seem like anything material.
 

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I won't enjoy facing this guy 19x/year for the next 3-4 years.
 
Rather him than Cano.  Also, how much protection is he going to get with Jeter hitting behind him.   He can turn a game around being on base in close and late situations with his speed, but not so much when they are being blown out. 
 

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Levine said something along the lines of: "Cano is 31 and you just don't sign a 31-year old to a 10-year deal. But take Mike Trout (he's 22) and yes, I'd do a 10-year deal with him."
 
Doesn't seem like anything material.
 
Hasn't David Stern collected some charity money from Mark Cuban for comments like this in the NBA?  I'm not sure how closely MLB has policed this stuff in the past.  "Tampering charges" is the first thing I thought, though, when I read it.
 

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Alex Rodriguez was 31 when they gave him 10 years.
 
That was in the power vacuum after George S died and was done by idiot son Hank. The fact that ownership keeps micromanaging specific personnel decisions makes it a lot harder to have a coherent macro strategy, which is the major reason that they don't. It's impossible to reconcile the way they've dealt with McCann and Russell Martin, with Ellsbury and Gardner, even with Beltran and Swisher/Granderson, just to name guys who play the same positions. 
 

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After he became less involved, yeah, but nearly three years before he died. 
 
Oops, my bad. George was way out of it by then, though. 
 

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rembrat said:
Alex Rodriguez was 31 when they gave him 10 years.
 
10 years to life is a heavy sentence, but he could get time off for bad behavior.
 

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uilnslcoap said:
Can anyone confirm that Girardi actually said about Ellsbury "You are no longer a thorn in my side; you are a flower in our clubhouse."
 
Whatever, I'm sigging it.
Sublte dig at the "fragile" Ellsbury? Which MLB player wants to be associated with a delicate little flower?
 
rembrat said:
He looks like he's aged a bit.
I thought exactly the same thing of that picture of Cano.
 

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It's been repeated many times, but Granderson/Gardner/Cano -> Gardner/Ellsbury/Dogshit is a swap any competing team would welcome from the Yankees.
 
And I for one would love to see Gardner in a Red Sox uniform.
 
I'll never understand why they didn't use Ellsbury money to lock in Cano, or to go after Choo. 
 

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geoduck no quahog said:
 
I'll never understand why they didn't use Ellsbury money to lock in Cano, or to go after Choo. 
How did Ellsbury's money keep them from signing Cano? They offered him a 7 year deal with a higher annual value than what the Mariners gave him. They didn't go 10 years because they didn't want him for 10 years. And why would they want Choo over Ellsbury?
 

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I'd take Gardner/Ellsbury/McCann/Kelly Johnson over Granderson/Cano/Stewart/Gardner. And I wanted no part of Choo. Ellsbury is much, much better.
 

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ThePrideofShiner said:
I'd take Gardner/Ellsbury/McCann/Kelly Johnson over Granderson/Cano/Stewart/Gardner. And I wanted no part of Choo. Ellsbury is much, much better.
 
It's really hard to defend the decisions when you go back to last winter, though. I did this already once in one of these threads, but let's assume NY just keeps all of their guys instead of signing any FAs. Here's how the situations would compare right now:
 
Ellsbury 21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1
McCann 17/17/17/17/17
Beltran 15/15/15
Ichiro 6.5
Johnson 3
 
Cano 24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24
Granderson 15/15/15/15
Swisher 15/15/15
Martin 9.5
 
That is almost identical money in 2014, 62.6M for the guys they actually have, 63.5M for the guys they let go. The overall commitments are also pretty close, 292.5 for the guys they have, 353.5 for the ones they let go (the difference being the last three years of Cano).
 
Laid out like that, can anyone really argue the way to go is with the top set of guys? Ellsbury/McCann/Beltran are all so much more injury prone than the guys NY let go, it's not even close to me.  
 

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Definitely the answer was to resign Swisher and Martin, and then Cano and Granderson. But based on this offseason, I'd rather have the group I mentioned.
 
Seeing it all laid out like that really rubs the salt in the wounds, though.
 

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They could've had McCann, Cano and Beltran for the same cost in 2014 as McCann, Ellsbury, Beltran and Johnson.  That's a no-brainer to me.
 

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jon abbey said:
 
It's really hard to defend the decisions when you go back to last winter, though. I did this already once in one of these threads, but let's assume NY just keeps all of their guys instead of signing any FAs. Here's how the situations would compare right now:
 
Ellsbury 21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1/21.1
McCann 17/17/17/17/17
Beltran 15/15/15
Ichiro 6.5
Johnson 3
 
Cano 24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24/24
Granderson 15/15/15/15
Swisher 15/15/15
Martin 9.5
 
That is almost identical money in 2014, 62.6M for the guys they actually have, 63.5M for the guys they let go. The overall commitments are also pretty close, 292.5 for the guys they have, 353.5 for the ones they let go (the difference being the last three years of Cano).
 
Laid out like that, can anyone really argue the way to go is with the top set of guys? Ellsbury/McCann/Beltran are all so much more injury prone than the guys NY let go, it's not even close to me.  
 
I agree with all of this, and furthermore if you go back to last winter or even a few years ago, the biggest mistake the Yankees made was sticking to their silly "no extensions" policy. If they had negotiated an extension with Cano 2 or 3 years ago they could have probably gotten him for a 9 or 10 year commitment from that point rather than ending up in a position where he gets to free agency at 31 years old and is looking for a 10 year deal.
 

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Boras would have tried his hardest to talk Cano out of taking an extension.  And if he took an early extension it wouldn't have been at a discount- it's just not the Boras way.  A 28-29 year old Cano would have likely insisted on a 10 year deal, like the 31 year old Cano did.  
 

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What player has the cojones to turn down a 10 year deal because his impending free agency is 3 years away? Boras be damned, it's ultimately the player's decision.
 

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Years rather than AAV was the alarm for the NYYs.
 
Except they kept saying they had to get under 189m, which is what I was addressing.  The last three years for Cano starting eight years from now would be a drop in the bucket for NY even if he was useless by then.  Meanwhile they'd be a better team over the next seven.  Their offseason decisions have been perplexing.
 
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