Heck of a job, Pats social media team...

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I'd say this is NSFW...
 
Look, I get that you probably have a computer handling these things, but this is..... yeah.  That it stayed up for an hour -- 45 minutes after Deadspin posted it -- is pretty ridiculous.
 
note: I do not think this is an issue at all, but it's likely someone gets fired for this because... yeah.
 

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Meh. Blame the Patriots for having an unpaid intern monitor the stuff. But, it happens.
 
 

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Isn't this automated? Like, everyone who RT's that message gets a tweet with a personalized jersey? They probably had filters in place, but considering the offensive word in question was intentionally misspelled, kind of hard to blame them. That tweet also didn't go out to everyone who follows the Patriots, just the dickhead who created an account just to fuck with them. Honestly, not seeing much of a problem here. Yeah it sucks and could be avoided if there were people screening every single person who RT'd the original tweet (which would make the process incredibly slow and kind of defeat the purpose), but I just don't see much fault, other than not presuming that people on the internet are fucking awful. 
 

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This was automated, there's not really anything anyone could have done. If you want to blame someone, blame Twitter for allowing the handle.
 

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This was automated, there's not really anything anyone could have done. If you want to blame someone, blame Twitter for allowing the handle.
Or blame the Patriots for using such an easily exploitable system.
 

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Isn't this automated? Like, everyone who RT's that message gets a tweet with a personalized jersey? They probably had filters in place, but considering the offensive word in question was intentionally misspelled, kind of hard to blame them. That tweet also didn't go out to everyone who follows the Patriots, just the dickhead who created an account just to fuck with them. Honestly, not seeing much of a problem here. Yeah it sucks and could be avoided if there were people screening every single person who RT'd the original tweet (which would make the process incredibly slow and kind of defeat the purpose), but I just don't see much fault, other than not presuming that people on the internet are fucking awful. 
 
The word wasn't that badly misspelled. Considering that any filter that looks for offensive words would be looking for specific words contained within a string of text, I'd say it would be very easy to blame them, assuming such a thing actually exists (which I kind of doubt). Say you want to filter out anything containing the word "Pats". If your filter only filters out the individual word "Pats" but allows the strings "Patsy" or "PatSucks" to go through, then your filter was coded by a retard.
 
The most likely scenario is that they didn't think this through and there was no filter in place. Either way, it's kind of funny.
 

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The word wasn't that badly misspelled. Considering that any filter that looks for offensive words would be looking for specific words contained within a string of text, I'd say it would be very easy to blame them, assuming such a thing actually exists (which I kind of doubt). Say you want to filter out anything containing the word "Pats". If your filter only filters out the individual word "Pats" but allows the strings "Patsy" or "PatSucks" to go through, then your filter was coded by a retard.
 
The most likely scenario is that they didn't think this through and there was no filter in place. Either way, it's kind of funny.
 
As Ed points out, the NE system is relying on Twitter to filter the one word in the message they don't control, and Twitter didn't.
 

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JimBoSox9 said:
 
As Ed points out, the NE system is relying on Twitter to filter the one word in the message they don't control, and Twitter didn't.
 
The poster I was responding to suggested that the Patriots, themselves, may have had a content filter in place and that it was likely defeated because the offensive word was misspelled. All I was pointing out was that only a filter coded by an imbecile would have missed that word. I even went so far as to point out the unlikelihood of such a filter existing, which fits right in with Ed's point.
 
So, I'm not really sure what your beef is with my post.
 

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Bosoxen said:
 
The word wasn't that badly misspelled. Considering that any filter that looks for offensive words would be looking for specific words contained within a string of text, I'd say it would be very easy to blame them, assuming such a thing actually exists (which I kind of doubt). Say you want to filter out anything containing the word "Pats". If your filter only filters out the individual word "Pats" but allows the strings "Patsy" or "PatSucks" to go through, then your filter was coded by a retard.
 
The most likely scenario is that they didn't think this through and there was no filter in place. Either way, it's kind of funny.
It looks like the I in the offending word was actually a 1, so your example doesn't work. You could add in extra filters for every number or symbol that could be used in place of a letter, but there are a lot of symbols. 
 

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Bosoxen said:
 
The word wasn't that badly misspelled. Considering that any filter that looks for offensive words would be looking for specific words contained within a string of text, I'd say it would be very easy to blame them, assuming such a thing actually exists (which I kind of doubt). Say you want to filter out anything containing the word "Pats". If your filter only filters out the individual word "Pats" but allows the strings "Patsy" or "PatSucks" to go through, then your filter was coded by a retard.
 
The most likely scenario is that they didn't think this through and there was no filter in place. Either way, it's kind of funny.
 
The Patriots said they had a filter in place. That could be a lie, but it's the only thing we have to go on, so I'll assume they're telling the truth. If you filter out the word "Pats", but forget to filter out "P4tss", is it really the work of a "retard"? Because this example is much closer to what actually happened than what you described. The offensive word in this case wasn't correctly spelled in its entirety, as your examples suggest. The "i" was an "l", and there was an extra "s" in the end. Sure, you could call it an oversight, but if I were putting a filter in place, I honestly don't know if "nlggerss" is something that would cross my mind as an offensive word that could potentially come up. 
 
I also find it awesome that the Patriots are the bad guys here, not the douchebag who created a Twitter account specifically for this purpose and put this shit out there for all to see.
 

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It looks like the I in the offending word was actually a 1, so your example doesn't work. You could add in extra filters for every number or symbol that could be used in place of a letter, but there are a lot of symbols. 
 
I guess my eyes are as good as their content filter. Completely missed that the I was a 1. The example may not work, but my point still stands; though I wouldn't condemn the coder nearly as strongly. One would expect that a content filter would look for 1 in place of I, a zero in place of O or a dollar sign in place of S. Those are pretty basic character substitutions. Now, if the person had used a "~" in place of the I, then yeah, that's beyond the scope of what one would expect.
 

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The team actually said they had a filtering system in place and missed it.
 

New England PatriotsVerified account ‏@Patriots 11h11 hours ago

We apologize for the regrettable tweet that went out from our account. Our filtering system failed & we will be more vigilant in the future.
 
Hope someone asks BB if he has any comment on the teams recent instaface account posting at the presser today.
Their "filtering system" could be two sentences in an SOP that the 21-year-old intern posting from their social media accounts has never read.
 

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Yeah I have no idea what the system is, just pointing out the team said they had one that missed this.
 

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Yea, what Bosoxen is talking about is regex101. I can create a regex that looks for either an I or 1, S or $ but that seems like a ton of work. The easiest solution, to me, seems to have a blacklist. Then you can just check the string(twitter handle) against an entire list of words, and every possible variation, and if you hit on something you don't proceed. In this scenario, the person at fault is whoever is charged with compiling the blacklist.
 

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Their "filtering system" could be two sentences in an SOP that the 21-year-old intern posting from their social media accounts has never read.
 
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So the standard is to outsmart all of the internet on any possible combination of potentially offensive strings of characters?

Got it.

IMO the only possible valid criticism was the decision to have the promo or not. Way to go internet, this is why we can't have nice things.
 
Edit: This is a total non story. The only group of people who should take it seriously in the entire world is Pats PR.
 

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Or blame the Patriots for using such an easily exploitable system.
 
Or blame the person who created the account in the first place? This is a ridiculous non-story. All it confirms is that there are assholes/trolls on the internet. Who knew.
 
Edit - Sure, the Pats should have had a better filter, but I just can't build up the rage over this. It's not like someone actually viewed and approved it, or that the team is actively supporting wife-beaters or racists.
 

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Stitch01 said:
The team actually said they had a filtering system in place and missed it.
 

New England PatriotsVerified account ‏@Patriots 11h11 hours ago

We apologize for the regrettable tweet that went out from our account. Our filtering system failed & we will be more vigilant in the future.
 
Hope someone asks BB if he has any comment on the teams recent instaface account posting at the presser today.
"We're moving on to the next filtering system protocol."
 
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The golden rule of Twitter is think of all the things that could go wrong, and then no matter what you think of, don't post it anyway.
exactly. It's 2 g's 1 character after an n.  Do you you really need a top-shelf programmer to figure out how to stop this potential? Can it be that hard to stop anything going out with n*gg?
 

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exactly. It's 2 g's 1 character after an n.  Do you you really need a top-shelf programmer to figure out how to stop this potential? Can it be that hard to stop anything going out with n*gg?
What about /\/ for N? Non-story.
 

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exactly. It's 2 g's 1 character after an n.  Do you you really need a top-shelf programmer to figure out how to stop this potential? Can it be that hard to stop anything going out with n*gg?
 
That's a noggin-scratcher.
 

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Stitch01 said:
The team actually said they had a filtering system in place and missed it.
 

New England PatriotsVerified account ‏@Patriots 11h11 hours ago

We apologize for the regrettable tweet that went out from our account. Our filtering system failed & we will be more vigilant in the future.
 
Hope someone asks BB if he has any comment on the teams recent instaface account posting at the presser today.
 
 
TheoShmeo said:
"We're moving on to the next filtering system protocol."
 
 
Love these.
 
If I ever bump into BB in public, I'm going to ask him to friend me on Instaface.
 

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Bosoxen said:
 
The word wasn't that badly misspelled. Considering that any filter that looks for offensive words would be looking for specific words contained within a string of text, I'd say it would be very easy to blame them, assuming such a thing actually exists (which I kind of doubt). Say you want to filter out anything containing the word "Pats". If your filter only filters out the individual word "Pats" but allows the strings "Patsy" or "PatSucks" to go through, then your filter was coded by a retard.
 
The most likely scenario is that they didn't think this through and there was no filter in place. Either way, it's kind of funny.
 
Is this performance art?  I like how you drop the r-word when discussing an offensive post with the n-word.
 
Anyway, software has bugs.  I've used commercial profanity filtering software, and even it has both precision and recall problems.  For every piece of profanity, especially misspelled profanity, you can find a perfectly non-profane string containing that substring.  Especially in a twitter handle with no spaces.
 

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I remember not being able to type Rudy Gay's name without it getting filtered om some boards. Filters suck.

Plus theres also shit like 9's looking like g's. Ni99ers could easily be read as niners too though. Or you can use qq. A filter isn't winning.
 

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MainerInExile said:
 
Is this performance art?  I like how you drop the r-word when discussing an offensive post with the n-word.
 
Anyway, software has bugs.  I've used commercial profanity filtering software, and even it has both precision and recall problems.  For every piece of profanity, especially misspelled profanity, you can find a perfectly non-profane string containing that substring.  Especially in a twitter handle with no spaces.
 
Would have liked to see you call him the f-word or the c-word for using the r-word when discussing the n-word.
 

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Would have liked to see you call him the f-word or the c-word for using the r-word when discussing the n-word.
How does the r-word still get past the SoSH filters? New thread. . . . .
 

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Automated marketing is uselessness designed to make it appear that marketers are 'doing something.'

Forget the clever hack for a minute. Imagine a world where that Twitter gimmick did not exist. Is anything different? Do people spend less money/time/energy supporting/hating/casually watching th Patriots/NFL? No. So it' should only be done if there is a zero chance of a screw up AND whomever charged with doing it has absolutely nothing else to work on that day.

Just because a marketing tool or tactic exists does not mean it must be used. In the next five to ten years, the trend in marketing will be in the choices companies/brands make and not participating will be as prized and meaningful as participating if it fits the overall brand strategy.
 

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Drocca said:
Automated marketing is uselessness designed to make it appear that marketers are 'doing something.'

Forget the clever hack for a minute. Imagine a world where that Twitter gimmick did not exist. Is anything different? Do people spend less money/time/energy supporting/hating/casually watching th Patriots/NFL? No. So it' should only be done if there is a zero chance of a screw up AND whomever charged with doing it has absolutely nothing else to work on that day.

Just because a marketing tool or tactic exists does not mean it must be used. In the next five to ten years, the trend in marketing will be in the choices companies/brands make and not participating will be as prized and meaningful as participating if it fits the overall brand strategy.
Aw, this is so adorable.
 

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That's my (always evolving) opinion. If you have a different one I would (seriously) love to hear it fleshed out. Also, I know my experience, being primarily B2B informs my bias.

I wrote a blog post on automated marketing if you are interested. derekmaine.blogspot.com
 

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That's my (always evolving) opinion. If you have a different one I would (seriously) love to hear it fleshed out. Also, I know my experience, being primarily B2B informs my bias.
I wrote a blog post on automated marketing if you are interested. derekmaine.blogspot.com
With B2B experience, it really surprises me that you feel automated marketing is useless. I've seen time and again a significant increase in conversion metrics (A/B test comparison) between targeted/segmented automated marketing campaigns, and non automated pieces. More importantly, the ability to automate things like drip/nurture campaigns with a segmented audience ensures timely & relevant content specific to a buyers needs.

Being able to deliver automated digital content that a buyer finds useful while triggering a task for a sales rep to call that user within minutes of that content being delivered (ensuring the reps voice is heard while a lead is consuming that deliverable) is a fully automated process that drastically shortens a sales cycle and increases exposure throughout the entire funnel, significantly improving ROI and maximizing entire departments work hours.

That says nothing about the automated and intricate process of creating lead scoring that can fine tune the ability to ensure reps only contact the most sales ready leads.

Make no mistake, marketing automation will be the focus of every sales/marketing organization 10 years from now. Companies that traditionally lag behind in this field (financial organizations, for example) are already investing millions of dollars in building teams around platforms like Marketo and Eloqua, integrating with legacy systems, and reorganizing their internal structure. Powerhouses like Salesforce.com are pushing integrations with automation leaders so they can bundle it in with their own systems because they know it's use and importance to have automated ability with databases.

Being able to target a specific buyer based on traffic patterns, web pages visited, IP address (ensure maximized deliveribility window), active customer vs inactive customer (your qualifications will vary) vs new customer vs legacy customer vs hot lead vs cold lead vs etc (what/when/how often to communicate) and the other thousand ways to segment them into a bucket greatly increases the chance that you'll deliver content they find useful in a timely manner, and that goes ten fold for B2C. If you only offer limited products for B2C, you may not be able to hit them when they need a product, but you can certainly automate communication when you think they do ("you bought a fridge 6 years ago, the average home owner buys a fridge every 7 years. Check out our badass fridges!") which helps drive engagement with existing customers and will greatly increase customer experience.

There's a thousand things I could talk about on this topic, but since this is BbtL and my fingers are numb from slapping them onto this iPad, I'll just say "I strongly disagree."

Edit: BTW, I read your blog post, and your main gripe seems to be that their automation is very poorly executed and the companies internal communication (marketing never got your email to a sales rep? Shameful.) sucks. A well executed automated workflow wouldn't allow any of the problems you experienced. Unfortunately, companies think doing it poorly is better than not at all, and that isn't true.
 

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That was a awesome post, thank you. Yes, my problem with automated marketing, similar to my problem with content marketing, is when it becomes so prevalent that everyone feels a need to do it and most do it poorly.