Its amazing and frustrating how effortless it is for these guys... Just tossing in a handful of set-threes, you know after returning from a disturbingly gruesome injury...It was a set shot, but he definitely was putting pressure on his ankle by rising up on the tip of his feet.
Here's the video.
Based on that video alone, sadly I think Hayward has already hit more in practice.Who makes a three pointer first this year? Fultz or Hayward?
Who plays in a game again first?Who makes a three pointer first this year? Fultz or Hayward?
Let's add Ben Simmons to that list.Who makes a three pointer first this year? Fultz or Hayward?
That is an amazing prop bet. At even odds, I'm definitely going with Heywheelchair.Who makes a three pointer first this year? Fultz or Hayward?
Straight into my veins.Gordon looking good shooting set shots tonight at Staples a couple hours before the game against the Clips.
Even if they're low impact he's still making some small cuts on the ankle as he is going into those shots. Give him 2 more months...Straight into my veins.
It really is remarkable to me that he could conceivably be back this year. It's hard to believe that it's easier to come back from his gruesome injury than an ACL injury when you see guys walking off the field after injuring them.Even if they're low impact he's still making some small cuts on the ankle as he is going into those shots. Give him 2 more months...
Granted, we only see what we see, but his attitude through this appears to have been absolutely top notch.It really is remarkable to me that he could conceivably be back this year. It's hard to believe that it's easier to come back from his gruesome injury than an ACL injury when you see guys walking off the field after injuring them.
That's what I noticed. His footwork looks great. He stayed lean and in shape during the layoff, which takes a ton of discipline because you really have to track calories and not rely on old - even clean - eating habits.Even if they're low impact he's still making some small cuts on the ankle as he is going into those shots. Give him 2 more months...
The deadline to decide is April 14th, right? Seems unlikely that the team would rule out a return on February 24th or whatever. Chances are that he doesn’t return but I’m not buying that the decision has been made.Stevens gave a more direct, "He is not coming back this season" statement to the media in NY yesterday.
April 13, 3 PM.The deadline to decide is April 14th, right? Seems unlikely that the team would rule out a return on February 24th or whatever. Chances are that he doesn’t return but I’m not buying that the decision has been made.
Paul George returned for the final 6 games of the season in '14-'15 contributing to the Pacers second unit when they were making a playoff push. I've always viewed Hayward to be of a similar timeline to be best prepared to give us playoff minutes.Well we should know within a few weeks right? What do we think the latest time would be for him to get in game shape and such to be able to have an impact?
I think he said it would be about a year from his injury, not a full season beyond that.I think it was DRS who warned that, upon returning, GH would not be himself for a good season or so. Am I remembering this correctly? Does DRS still think this way?
Beuller? Beuller?
Paul George also broke his leg 2.5 months earlier than Hayward did. August 1st for George, October 17th for HaywardPaul George returned for the final 6 games of the season in '14-'15 contributing to the Pacers second unit when they were making a playoff push. I've always viewed Hayward to be of a similar timeline to be best prepared to give us playoff minutes.
Hayward also had a different injury. A dislocation, (presumably) intraarticular fracture, and the associated ligament damage is another set of variables to add to the equation.Paul George also broke his leg 2.5 months earlier than Hayward did. August 1st for George, October 17th for Hayward
Wasn’t there little to no ligament damage?Hayward also had a different injury. A dislocation, (presumably) intraarticular fracture, and the associated ligament damage is another set of variables to add to the equation.
George had a nasty fracture but in a young person, once you line it up, more often than not it heals at a pretty predictable rate. Hayward's injury has the potential to be much more complex, and the error bars around his expected timeline are probably larger based on our limited outside info.
I saw a report with that claim as well, but I don't buy it. It's not really possible to have little to no ligament damage based on that injury.Wasn’t there little to no ligament damage?
George's fracture likely had some significant tissue damage around the break. A lot of people are using the George injury for comparison, and I'm not sure how useful it is.Hayward also had a different injury. A dislocation, (presumably) intraarticular fracture, and the associated ligament damage is another set of variables to add to the equation.
George had a nasty fracture but in a young person, once you line it up, more often than not it heals at a pretty predictable rate. Hayward's injury has the potential to be much more complex, and the error bars around his expected timeline are probably larger based on our limited outside info.
Eh, maybe. I'm no doctor, but I had a super bad sprain of my ankle like 8 years ago and my ankle is still a bit discolored. Petechiae (burst capillaries under the skin) seems to linger for a long time, especially in us super pale folks.Chris Mannix had a report within the last couple of days which said that sources told him Hayward's ankle still looked "purpleish". Sounds to me that he's still got a lot of rehab left.
But muscle/skin isn't a big deal, that stuff will heal. Ligaments and cartilage are a big deal and important for stability and pain-free mobility.George's fracture likely had some significant tissue damage around the break. A lot of people are using the George injury for comparison, and I'm not sure how useful it is.
Agreed on the fracture difference. But ankle ligament damage is not UCL or ACL. There isn't a player above 9th grade who doesn't routinely stretch those ligaments and who doesn't completely tear them periodically. Half of the people reading this post have torn them.But muscle/skin isn't a big deal, that stuff will heal. Ligaments and cartilage are a big deal and important for stability and pain-free mobility.
Fractures away from joints are very different than intraarticular fracture/dislocations.
I was referring specifically to a timeline for a return for the playoffs not anything related to the type of injury. I should have been more clear. The timeline I trusted the most, aside from the medical people, was Shavlik Randolph who suffered the same injury sans any details that we are not privy to and said he was ready to be on the floor in 5-6 months.Paul George also broke his leg 2.5 months earlier than Hayward did. August 1st for George, October 17th for Hayward
Definitely, most of the NBA players have previously torn/scarred/remodelled ankle ligaments. I'm just saying its an added variable in his case, and his ligament tears were almost certainly high grade given the injury.Agreed on the fracture difference. But ankle ligament damage is not UCL or ACL. There isn't a player above 9th grade who doesn't routinely stretch those ligaments and who doesn't completely tear them periodically. Half of the people reading this post have torn them.
This.I’m to the point with GH where I’m more than happy if he returns, but an entire summer of conditioning and full confidence in the ankle next Fall is much more important to this team long term.
A closing 5 of Kyrie Jaylen Hayward Tatum and Horford in 18-19 is going to be absolutely terrifying for other teams to deal with.
He’s coming back. Let’s goooooo