Hayward's Injury

johnmd20

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"We"

Hell, yeah, it was always we. But, guys, don't undersell hayward's post... this is, like, not just, "we," it's an exploration of what "we" means for him--and what it all means for the Celtics, and us.

Like, keep in mind who he is, and who he has been, and how he might have come to the team.

And then consider the "we."

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This is Pulitzer Level work sir. Thank you!
 

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I was just looking at some hayward highlight clips, getting excited for how he will fit in next year, and I was shocked by how often he runs the same alley-opp play that he got injured on. I wonder if that will still be a part of his game next year.


Also, he is going to fit in really well....
 

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They’re still going to run that back cut play for him. It was a freak accident. The biggest hurdle with those is the psychological one, but I’m less worried about that with Gordo after hearing Utah’s color commentator say that Hayward was “one French fry short of a happy meal” as regards his insane dedication to being the best. So I’ll wager that he’ll be doing those as soon as he feels comfortable about the tendons in his ankles handling the stress.
 

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Well Rev that was excellent.

I was just so impressed that he is a part of the we and was so obviously so happy to be sharing his belief in the team.

It could have gone so many ways with that injury on a new team. The mental aspects alone are daunting.

This team seems so well put together, and each person aside from their basketball fit seems to fit as a team member.

I’m a huge proponent of keeping this band together. Minor changes only as the talent and team ethic is in no need of a new part. So contracts aside Hayward’s return along with Kyrie is all that’s needed for next level.

Because it’s so damn good already, can’t wait for the next game, next year has me positively giddy.
 

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I was just looking at some hayward highlight clips, getting excited for how he will fit in next year, and I was shocked by how often he runs the same alley-opp play that he got injured on. I wonder if that will still be a part of his game next year.


Also, he is going to fit in really well....

Imagine the spacing next year. As Lowe said on his podcast yesterday with Simmons, the Celtics might enter the Warriors/Rockets air.

Irving bringing the ball up court, Tatum and Hayward split to each side, Horford comes up to set a pick, someone sets screen on Brown's man as he rolls to hoop....
 

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Imagine the spacing next year. As Lowe said on his podcast yesterday with Simmons, the Celtics might enter the Warriors/Rockets air.

Irving bringing the ball up court, Tatum and Hayward split to each side, Horford comes up to set a pick, someone sets screen on Brown's man as he rolls to hoop....
I'm wondering if Brad could win 40 games with a first 7 of Theis, Ojeleye, Morris, Rozier, and Larkin, with Bird, Yabu and Nader coming off the bench.
 

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The preseason highlights with Hayward, Irving, Brown, Tatum, and Horford on the floor are drool worthy.


Unprecedented that a team is two games from the Finals, and fans are anticipating next season. With a fully healthy roster, it's going to be 1986-like in the regular season. Unless LBJ goes to Philly or Houston, the Celtics are the only team that can take out Golden State. Hopefully, these healthy Celtics give the Warriors a good run, an next year's full squad dethrones them.
 

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Holy crap that preseason video was fun. A lineup of Kyrie-Hayward-Brown-Tatum-Horford is going to be quite fun. Hayward is a much better passer than I realized, and such a good shooter.

Question for those who know, how is Hayward defensively? Can he hold his own with the constant switching that happens and fit the defensive style the team has played with the whole year?
 
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Hayward, iirc, was the primary defender on KD in the Utah/GSW series last year and was considered to have done a really good job. He should fit in seamlessly for the wings.
 

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Hayward, iirc, was the primary defender on KD in the Utah/GSW series last year and was considered to have done a really good job.
Yep, I've often noted that — imho he did a much better job of slowing down KD than LeBron, or anyone else in last year's playoffs (or this year's playoffs, to date). Healthy Hayward is one of a small handful of guys in the league with the combo of size, strength, quickness and skill to bother KD (or LeBron).

Full disclosure: looking at that Celtics death lineup makes me really hope the Warriors can re-sign Kevon Looney to hang with it.
 

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No. It means the team wasn't ready to play tonight, and they'll need to step up and be ready to go Monday.
 

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Hayward, iirc, was the primary defender on KD in the Utah/GSW series last year and was considered to have done a really good job. He should fit in seamlessly for the wings.
Hayward is a solid defender as are his numbers on that end. However you must note that he has the DPOY backing him up in the lane with Gobert.
 

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Well, it seems like it's needed around these parts right now, because this has popped up in 2 threads.
 

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I mean, one bad game and the world has ended? This is unbelievable. GS was down 3-1 to OKC in 2016 and people were shoveling dirt on their grave. The Cavs were down 3-1 and it was over.

The Celtics are UP 2-1. With home court advantage.
 

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I mean, one bad game and the world has ended? This is unbelievable. GS was down 3-1 to OKC in 2016 and people were shoveling dirt on their grave. The Cavs were down 3-1 and it was over.

The Celtics are UP 2-1. With home court advantage.
Calling this merely "a bad game" is an understatement.
 

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Sports fans live excessively in the moment. Even on SoSH. Celtics are up 2-1. And just like in game 2, the unfairly maligned adage “the series doesn’t begin until the road team wins a game” still applies. The Celtics have a chance to go up a break
 

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Calling this merely "a bad game" is an understatement.
Did the Cavs fans say the same after Game 1?This really was one bad game......and a predictable one at that. We'll probably lose again tomorrow and that's ok too. Holding serve at home is what we need to do to advance.

Don't you remember all those Celtics/Lakers blowouts in the 80's when one game result meant nothing the following game? This happens all the time.....it happened in the WC this past week too.
 

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Did the Cavs fans say the same after Game 1?This really was one bad game......and a predictable one at that. We'll probably lose again tomorrow and that's ok too. Holding serve at home is what we need to do to advance.

Don't you remember all those Celtics/Lakers blowouts in the 80's when one game result meant nothing the following game? This happens all the time.....it happened in the WC this past week too.
Or even 2008, when the Celtics were up 2-0 against, who was it...oh, Cleveland. They lost game three by 24, and then game four by 11. Things managed to turn out okay.
 

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Or even 2008, when the Celtics were up 2-0 against, who was it...oh, Cleveland. They lost game three by 24, and then game four by 11. Things managed to turn out okay.
True, but Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Gordon Hayward, and Kyrie Irving aren't walking through that door, so to speak. This team has less margin for error than that one did. The take care of business at home thing worked for thr Milwaukee series, but this isn't Milwaukee we're playing against now.
 

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True, but Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Gordon Hayward, and Kyrie Irving aren't walking through that door, so to speak. This team has less margin for error than that one did. The take care of business at home thing worked for thr Milwaukee series, but this isn't Milwaukee we're playing against now.
Shouldn’t we wait until we lose a home game before we freak out?
 

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Shouldn’t we wait until we lose a home game before we freak out?
Exactly.

Cavs shot lights out, Celtics were discombobulated on offense and defense and obviously a bit tight. Some of the lineups that Stevens played last night had major communication issues on defense (particularly Morris and Baynes). Refs were a bit home call crazy in the first half. Everything basically went wrong.

I know that people would have felt better if the Cavs shot their average and our defense was a little tighter and we lost by four points, but that doesn't mean anything.

The Cavs have the best player on earth. Their winning comfortably at home in a must win game shouldn't be a major surprise, nor should it be cause for alarm.
 

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Exactly.

Cavs shot lights out, Celtics were discombobulated on offense and defense and obviously a bit tight. Some of the lineups that Stevens played last night had major communication issues on defense (particularly Morris and Baynes). Refs were a bit home call crazy in the first half. Everything basically went wrong.

I know that people would have felt better if the Cavs shot their average and our defense was a little tighter and we lost by four points, but that doesn't mean anything.

The Cavs have the best player on earth. Their winning comfortably at home in a must win game shouldn't be a major surprise, nor should it be cause for alarm.
The Cavs were playing for their season last night. Whereas the Celtics were playing with house money and also they are a young team who hasn't played well on the road in any form these playoffs.

Last night wasn't a huge shock. And it doesn't automatically mean the season is over, up 2-1 with home court.
 

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it’s not a series until a team wins a road game. this thing will go 7 and anything short of that, including a celtics series win, is gravy.
 

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Eddie “Felger” Jurak throwing out the stinky bait and people are swimming to it as fast as they can.

It was a bad game. I’m happy up 2-1 with home court...
 

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it’s not a series until a team wins a road game. this thing will go 7 and anything short of that, including a celtics series win, is gravy.
LOL I said this in the general playoff game phrase but that phase is so incredibly dumb. The series will be OVER if a road team wins. You’re saying a 7 game series with the home team winning the first 6 games isn’t a series yet?
 

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So......if the series goes all seven games and each teams wins all their games at home, the series never started? No one advances to the finals from the east????

Honestly, I have no idea what this cliche means or why people believe it. I supposed the Boston-Milwaukee series never started either.