Hayward to Boston...Really, We Mean It

E5 Yaz

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I don't trust everybody, I trust those guys because I feel they've earned it.

You know, just like you tweeted just before this that you trust Woj.

I mean great...all that meant was the rest of us have to have faith in your ability to trust Woj?
Bunched underoos?
 

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Feel like this is always the "great fear" in situations like these: that some premature announcement is going to blow up weeks and months of negotiations with millions of dollars and fates of franchises on the line.

Has it actually ever happened?
Bobby Knight was going to accept the Badger job, but wanted to convey that to the Army people himself. The story leaked and he got mad and stayed at Army.
 

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yep. feels like this is it
I mean... that makes zero sense as it can't be done for multiple days, and it would mean that 2 team offices and an agent all straight out lied to reporters, which seems unlikely.
 

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Bobby Knight was going to accept the Badger job, but wanted to convey that to the Army people himself. The story leaked and he got mad and stayed at Army.
Sure, but nothing here has said "Celtics sources", so there should be no anger (if that's even where Hayward is) towards Boston--we've seen "league sources" and "sources close to Hayward". Even the Salt Lake paper tweeted a confirmation.
 

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Wojo has never been wrong. He is a very reputable source. He is the Bob Ryan of this generation.
Mostly true, but remember way way back to a couple weeks ago when he reported the Celtics were getting both the Lakers and Kings picks back in the trade for the #1 pick?

There was one reporter who said, my sources say Celtics only getting one future pick, then Woj confirmed that later.

The reporter with the correct info was Adam Himmlesbach. Weird he didn't just run with Woj report. Instead he used his own source.
 

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For something to get actually announced I would think the I dotting and T crossing would necessitate numerous calls to players, agents and the league office (all on July 4th). That doesn't include all the friends/family/people associate with the pitch/people in the room when the news comes in and whoever else may have extra insight. I agree with the post saying you need to expect leaks and plan accordingly.

I'm not assuming any calls were made, but once you start sharing info with more people, the clock is ticking. You can't expect to prevent leaks, you must expect them and plan accordingly.
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Sure, but nothing here has said "Celtics sources", so there should be no anger (if that's even where Hayward is) towards Boston--we've seen "league sources" and "sources close to Hayward". Even the Salt Lake paper tweeted a confirmation.
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But I think it's all overdone
Exaggerating this exaggerating that
They don't have no fun
 

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I think the simplest answer is most likely the right one: Hayward got up thinking Boston, Haynes calls a source during this period and runs with it, while at the same time doubt starts creeping in for hayward. Then the internet blows up and he says, we're stepping back to be certain of things.
 

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Mostly true, but remember way way back to a couple weeks ago when he reported the Celtics were getting both the Lakers and Kings picks back in the trade for the #1 pick?

There was one reporter who said, my sources say Celtics only getting one future pick, then Woj confirmed that later.

The reporter with the correct info was Adam Himmlesbach. Weird he didn't just run with Woj report. Instead he used his own source.
Well, that's good since Himmlesbach is the guy who reported it earlier today. In related news, the Globe had updated his earlier piece simply to say that since it was reported and confirmed by a league source to the Globe that Hayward's agent has said no decision has been made yet:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/07/04/prized-free-agent-gordon-hayward-agrees-deal-with-celtics/d25QCskCMzmPO5nee8ftIM/story.html
 

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For something to get actually announced I would think the I dotting and T crossing would necessitate numerous calls to players, agents and the league office (all on July 4th). That doesn't include all the friends/family/people associate with the pitch/people in the room when the news comes in and whoever else may have extra insight. I agree with the post saying you need to expect leaks and plan accordingly.
We're not waiting for a signing. That can't happen for two more days anyway. We aren't waiting for the Celtics to clear cap space. They won't do that unless Hayward declares his intent to sign in Boston. What we are waiting for is Hayward to declare where he intends to sign. Literally nothing needs to happen for him to do this. He probably should, and will, contact the teams involved personally first, but that takes a total of a few minutes to accomplish.

In short, this isn't a paperwork delay or a making it official delay. The two possibilities are Hayward hasn't decided yet or he did, lost control of the story break, and is trying to hit reset to get control back.
 

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As annoyed as I will be if Hayward ultimately chooses the Jazz, I would be 10x more angry if I were a Jazz fan and he ended up going to Celtics anyway after all of this drama.
 

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I mean... that makes zero sense as it can't be done for multiple days, and it would mean that 2 team offices and an agent all straight out lied to reporters, which seems unlikely.
agents lie and reporters jump the gun to scoop a story...happens everyday
 

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As frustrating as this might seem, it's not the DeAndre Jordan/Mavs/LAC mess.

Apologies to whoever might have brought this up already
 

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Maybe it's just me but doesn't Bartelstein have a history of being a problem for the Celtics. May have been a long time ago and over and done with now.
 

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As annoyed as I will be if Hayward ultimately chooses the Jazz, I would be 10x more angry if I were a Jazz fan and he ended up going to Celtics anyway after all of this drama.
This, really. The more time that goes by, the less likely it seems that it's just about getting all the ducks in a row. The leaked info wasn't the ideal way for Utah to hear about it, but it's still far more considerate than vehemently insisting that no decision has been made if, in fact, one has. And perhaps the reason for the poor reaction to the leak in the first place is that Hayward and his agent weren't prepared for an inevitable leak because there truly is nothing to leak as of yet.

At this point I think the most likely situation is that no decision has been made.
 
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DrewDawg

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This, really. The more time that goes by, the less likely it seems that it's just about getting all the ducks in a row.
Eh. We're kind of in uncharted territory now, so I'm not sure we can really say delay works in anyone's favor.
 

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This is fucked. He must seriously be still thinking about his options. He has had plenty of time to regroup and make an announcement if the Boston report was right.

I can't imagine he would torture a fanbase (or himself) just for fun. If he could have confirmed by now, he would have.
 

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This is fucked. He must seriously be still thinking about his options. He has had plenty of time to regroup and make an announcement if the Boston report was right.

I can't imagine he would torture a fanbase (or himself) just for fun. If he could have confirmed by now, he would have.
Still hoping this is just a way to regroup and quiet down and make the announcement his way. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
 

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Don't know if this was mentioned, but the one scenario that I "liked" was that Haynes source was Pat Riley. Which is why they ran with it. And Riley flat out lied to him, perhaps hoping that it would blow up and that he would go back to Utah.
 

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If he does come to Boston, this is now strike one with the local media and fans.

Doesn't bode well for how he would handle things in one of the toughest markets in the country.

(Trying to make myself feel better about him resigning in Utah)
 

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The longer this goes, the more I believe it favors the Jazz. Leaving is difficult, in anyone's life. Staying is the safe and secure choice for the indecisive
 

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If he does come to Boston, this is now strike one with the local media and fans.

Doesn't bode well for how he would handle things in one of the toughest markets in the country.

(Trying to make myself feel better about him resigning in Utah)
If he ends up in Boston I dont tink anyone will care.
 

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Are the last few hours really that big of a deal? Or are we just upset because an afternoon of indecision or delay in the Twitter age seems like an eternity?

I'm just trying to figure out why so many posters are assuming the worst here.
 

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Are the last few hours really that big of a deal? Or are we just upset because an afternoon of indecision or delay in the Twitter age seems like an eternity?

I'm just trying to figure out why so many posters are assuming the worst here.