I missed the match but caught the highlights and imagine Barca were pretty dominant. Osasuna have been pretty awful away from home, have been on a terrible run of form period, and didn't have Barcelona-killer Bryan Zaragoza available. They're quietly creeping down towards the relegation fight.I watched some of this game today, and Barca romped even with some key figures missing. Ferran Torres had a finish from close in off of an excellent team move. Something odd happened on a pen and Barca was allowed to retake, and Olmo converted. The final goal was a pure class team move with Fermin putting the finishing touch on it.
Let us know how it is. Haven't been there in maybe 10 or 15 years, it was brand new at the time. It felt a little sterile, but might have aged well. It's a decent sized stadium too, just a pain to get to from Barcelona (but easy if you're coming from the airport).I'll be at the Atletico-Espanyol game tomorrow. First time at the RCDE stadium, looking forward to it.
It was a good time. The stadium is nice enough but the area directly around it is rather, uh, stale. It's mostly concrete and then there's a giant mall where you can buy a nice pre-game fast fashion blouse or pair of jeans. Once inside, the stadium is very functional and with great views from anywhere. We had great seats and while the match was not terribly riveting, it was a very enjoyable afternoon.Let us know how it is. Haven't been there in maybe 10 or 15 years, it was brand new at the time. It felt a little sterile, but might have aged well. It's a decent sized stadium too, just a pain to get to from Barcelona (but easy if you're coming from the airport).
This was covered by the Spanish Football Podcast guys today. They are nowhere near Barca fans and often critical of the club. They said that there is no chance anything comes from this. In short, Barca consulted with the Federation beforehand and they gave the green light prior to the game. Their reasoning was twofold; first they didn’t consider him injured and ruled out but rather released from the call up prior to the games (similar to Johnny for the USMNT/Betis) and second that they would have given an exemption anyways due to the fact that this was a rescheduled game.Osasuna are protesting the match against Barca.
Barcelona fielded players that declined international duty due to injury and weren't allowed to play. I'm interested to see how that plays out. I'm fairly certain that most teams flout these rules with "injured" players participating in matches within five days of the end of the international period.
That actually passes the smell test, but I still get why Osasuna filed a complaint.This was covered by the Spanish Football Podcast guys today. They are nowhere near Barca fans and often critical of the club. They said that there is no chance anything comes from this. In short, Barca consulted with the Federation beforehand and they gave the green light prior to the game. Their reasoning was twofold; first they didn’t consider him injured and ruled out but rather released from the call up prior to the games (similar to Johnny for the USMNT/Betis) and second that they would have given an exemption anyways due to the fact that this was a rescheduled game.
Spanish officials have shown themselves to be more than willing to come down on Barcelona pretty hard, so I’ll take this is a nothingburger.
I do take the words of Sid Lowe as pretty much gospel when it comes to La Liga clubs. He’s a devout Oviedo fan and is as neutral as they come, despite his book being about the big 2.That actually passes the smell test, but I still get why Osasuna filed a complaint.
The last ten minutes of regular time were insane. La Real were up 2-1 which would have sent the game to extra time. Oyarzabal scored in the 80th minute putting Real Sociedad ahead, only for Bellingham and Tchouameni to score four minutes apart to put Real Madrid ahead on aggregate. Oyarzabal leveled in injury time to send the game to extra time where Rudiger scored to put Real Madrid through to the final.Pretty incredible Copa del Rey semifinal match last night between La Real and Madrid. Hard to believe that 2 out of the 3 semifinal matches played so far have been 4-4. Atletico and Barcelona play tonight after a, you guessed it, 4-4 score in the first game.
It is easy for me to say from my couch that Real Sociedad looked awful in the second extra time period -- but I really didn't like the tactics of playing so defensively. Maybe the team was gassed, and maybe the coach knew that the team lost a spark with Kubo and Oyarzabal subbed off. I've seen too many Atletico matches where sitting back and waiting for a counter backfires.The last ten minutes of regular time were insane. La Real were up 2-1 which would have sent the game to extra time. Oyarzabal scored in the 80th minute putting Real Sociedad ahead, only for Bellingham and Tchouameni to score four minutes apart to put Real Madrid ahead on aggregate. Oyarzabal leveled in injury time to send the game to extra time where Rudiger scored to put Real Madrid through to the final.
Absurd.
Man, Atleti are in such a weird spot. They're a top 15 club for sure, and most years have a strong argument for top 10. They seem well-run, they have an identity, they have good scouting and recruitment. They just have the misfortune of competing against Barca and Real. I mean, where would this side finish in the EPL? I think they'd be challenging for top 5 no problem, and possibly higher.Atletico ran out of gas -- and ideas -- the last few weeks. Griezmann aged rather quickly in 2025, and the absence of Koke due to injured is noticed. Whatever was clicking stopped clicking, and the team looks a bit clunky and slow. I'm not sure if players like De Paul and Llorente lost a spark, or if others like Barrios and Lino were playing above their actual talent level for a long time. Either way, this dip in form came at the worst time as Atletico is about five minutes away from being knocked out of la Copa del Rey. Sigh.
That’s such a hard question because there are nuances to every league. When I see the Forest/City range of teams, Atleti are probably better but I admittedly haven’t seen a ton of Forest and the City games I saw were mostly against big clubs (and City looked awful in those games, like I’d pick Betis to beat them). There is something to be said for the talent level of Premier League clubs being better than La Liga, but I’d argue that the team building in La Liga is better. There tends to be more academy players on La Liga clubs who have played together, or in the same style, their entire soccer lives, and where players who are bought are given more time to assimilate.Man, Atleti are in such a weird spot. They're a top 15 club for sure, and most years have a strong argument for top 10. They seem well-run, they have an identity, they have good scouting and recruitment. They just have the misfortune of competing against Barca and Real. I mean, where would this side finish in the EPL? I think they'd be challenging for top 5 no problem, and possibly higher.
Re the bolded, it's funny to me because I'd say it's the other way around. I like how they've recruited strong squad players like Barrios, Llorente, Molina, Sorloth, and Lino, along with aging vets that add a ton of value at low cost (Griezmann, Azpi, Oblak), so they shouldn't ever drop below any other La Liga club or most of their competition in UCL. But the only players I'd say are top end talent are Alvarez, RDP, Le Normand, and Gallagher. While most clubs would trade squads with Atleti in a heartbeat (circular logic, considering where we started the convo), that's not enough to get them over the hump. Compare the squads of the last few years or so with the peak Atleti of the mid teens or even 2020-21 and the difference is small, but real. That's just the game Atleti has to play to compete at this level, but to the club's credit, from my perspective they're almost always RIGHT THERE, and every so often they get there (La Liga titles, UCL finals). The only question I have is whether fans consider this enough.That’s such a hard question because there are nuances to every league. When I see the Forest/City range of teams, Atleti are probably better but I admittedly haven’t seen a ton of Forest and the City games I saw were mostly against big clubs (and City looked awful in those games, like I’d pick Betis to beat them). There is something to be said for the talent level of Premier League clubs being better than La Liga, but I’d argue that the team building in La Liga is better. There tends to be more academy players on La Liga clubs who have played together, or in the same style, their entire soccer lives, and where players who are bought are given more time to assimilate.
I really like the top end talent at Atletico Madrid, on par with the big two, though they really lack depth. RM are just so deep with smart buys, and La Masia is churning out Barca players. Simeone’s all in style of play is so demanding too. I’m also wondering how much intentional breaks punish a team like Atleti who rely on so many South American internationals where they play in such difficult circumstances in terms of locations, obscene demands to leave nothing on the field, and very long flights.
You’re right. I used the wrong phrase, shouldn’t have used “top end”. More of what I meant is along the lines of the players who you would expect to play in a final, the top 10-15 players, I rate really highly for Atleti. It’s that next tier where they struggle. Where Barca have Eric, Fermin, Pablo Torre, Gerard Martin etc and RM have Endrick, Fran Garcia, Ceballos (or is Camavinga or Modric in this tier???). The players who fill in during high match congestion or injuries.Re the bolded, it's funny to me because I'd say it's the other way around. I like how they've recruited strong squad players like Barrios, Llorente, Molina, Sorloth, and Lino, along with aging vets that add a ton of value at low cost (Griezmann, Azpi, Oblak), so they shouldn't ever drop below any other La Liga club or most of their competition in UCL. But the only players I'd say are top end talent are Alvarez, RDP, Le Normand, and Gallagher. While most clubs would trade squads with Atleti in a heartbeat (circular logic, considering where we started the convo), that's not enough to get them over the hump. Compare the squads of the last few years or so with the peak Atleti of the mid teens or even 2020-21 and the difference is small, but real. That's just the game Atleti has to play to compete at this level, but to the club's credit, from my perspective they're almost always RIGHT THERE, and every so often they get there (La Liga titles, UCL finals). The only question I have is whether fans consider this enough.
True, but it's only La Liga that we can seem to pull off every decade or so.You’re right. I used the wrong phrase, shouldn’t have used “top end”. More of what I meant is along the lines of the players who you would expect to play in a final, the top 10-15 players, I rate really highly for Atleti. It’s that next tier where they struggle. Where Barca have Eric, Fermin, Pablo Torre, Gerard Martin etc and RM have Endrick, Fran Garcia, Ceballos (or is Camavinga or Modric in this tier???). The players who fill in during high match congestion or injuries.
Put another way, this Atleti are better built to win the Champions League than La Liga.
Thanks for this. Your post added a lot of great details to what I think most La Liga teams feel happens with Atleti.That being said, competing in simultaneous competitions is difficult period. Unless you can field two high quality sides, you will need to rely on good fortune as well. Atleti do not have two sides, they have 1.5, and that's pretty damned good. Key players need to play across all important games though, and as such will be worn down by the end when having to face teams that can field two squads.
I couldn’t tell if Llorente had a play on the ball that the referee impeded before being shoved into Gavi. Betis will take the point with a rotated squad at Montjuic.Betis defender just collided with the ref, who wiped out the Barca ballcarrier and snuffed what could have been a very dangerous counterattack at 90'
I LOL'd when this happened. It was also Gil Marzano who I think is considered one of if not the best Spanish ref. If nothing else, he refs a lot of big UCL and WC games.Betis defender just collided with the ref, who wiped out the Barca ballcarrier and snuffed what could have been a very dangerous counterattack at 90'
I tend to think that we overreact to red card challenges because often they are poorly timed or clumsy, and they look worse when slowed down. I also have a hard time judging intent. I also think we judge players we don’t like on teams we don’t like more harshly. I’m not saying that’s what you are doing, but just my own biases when I saw the challenge. I don’t dislike Mbappe and often enjoy watching him play, but I hate Real Madrid with a burning passion so it could color my opinion of the challenge.The Mbappe challenge looks beyond horrific. No attempt to play the ball, all of the intent in the world to injure. It's one of those that crosses the border from a sporting challenge toward an assault charge.
Something something palancas.The opening for Camp Nou has been pushed back once again. It was originally scheduled to open late last year. Then April. Now September 16. It will likely open with no roof and with 60,000 person capacity. Construction will continue throughout next season and a roof added in May 2026. Hopefully the club correctly budgeted for the obvious delays.
They almost have to open it by mid September as that is when Champions League kicks off. Barca cannot change stadiums in the middle of the competition. The club will ask to start La Liga on the road to allow for as much construction time as possible.
I was pretty shocked at how bad they looked against Betis. I know that they lost a lot of talent, but they’re much better than what we’ve seen lately.A huge match coming up between a club from Madrid and a club from Cataluña which could have season defining implications...
Of course, I mean tomorrow's match Leganes v Girona in Madrid. This could be a relegation 6 pointer. If Leganes win, they would sit level with Las Palmas at 32 points, only 2 points from safety- a spot held in this scenario by Girona.
Shocking that Girona have been this bad. Everyone knew it would be a rough campaign but to be this late in the season and be so close to the drop is an utter disaster.
To be fair, Barcelona as a club have been at least as bad over the years. Barca’s claims that they’ve been treated differently when it comes to financial regulations are laughable. One of their palancas involved selling assets to a culé who had no intention of completing the transaction. It was blatant lying to balance the books, then the club calls foul when Tebas required proof of funds for other financial maneuvers. You lied and now are being forced to prove you’re not lying. Boo fricking who. Both clubs claim to be victims when the field is entirely tilted in the favor of them both. It’s tiring.Caveat of being an American who only occasionaly reads the Spanish press.
One of my biggest reasons for supporting Real Madrid over Barcelona was that it used to always seem like Barcelona were the ones who would cry foul about referees and dumb conspiracy theories while Madrid rarely did.
This past year however.... Yikes. Real Madrid TV Foremost and the club have been absolutely embarrassing the past year.
Despite putting in solid shifts for my over 40 mens Sunday beer league, both during and after the game, I doubt I had the technical quality to make it there, even with the great coaching. I would’ve enjoyed the food though. On the other hand, my younger brother was a very gifted player, had a youth spell in Holland, played D1 soccer, and perhaps he could have benefitted. We wouldn’t qualify though, as neither of our parents were born in the Basque Country.Rguill- Upon leaning that, did you immediately question why your father never sent you to Lezama?
Aside from a small sliver of land slightly west of Pais Vasco, I can not imagine a better place in the world.