GW3: Post Transfer Deadline, Pre International Break Fixtures

the1andonly3003

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When Arteta starts RAS, Zink and Jesus in the UCL Group stage, they'll look like City in red
Guess Gabriel wanted to take out his new teammate, Merino, for a few weeks

1-1 draw w/ Trossard and Welbeck scoring against their former teams?
 

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Unusual second yellow for Declan Rice, who gives up a free kick and then as he lingers over the ball the Brighton player tries to quickly take it, and hits Rice instead of the ball, knocking Rice over. Second yellow for Rice for delaying the free kick, Arsenal down to 10 the rest of the way and no Rice for the NLD next week.
 

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Unusual second yellow for Declan Rice, who gives up a free kick and then as he lingers over the ball the Brighton player tries to quickly take it, and hits Rice instead of the ball, knocking Rice over. Second yellow for Rice for delaying the free kick, Arsenal down to 10 the rest of the way and no Rice for the NLD next week.
Well that's a take on that, the ball is still rolling and hits his backfoot and the player never sets it.

No way on hell that is a yellow. What is the ref doing?

Edit to expand: let's say the ball is set and Rice is standing there since the foul occured 2 seconds before...the guy is kicking Rice no matter what...that was not an attempt to restart the play...he was kicking Rice and pretending to play the ball.
 
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Rice's back is to the player, I'm not sure he knew the free kick was being taken. Brighton booted a ball 40 yards down the field after it was out of bounds in the first half. No card. Rice nudges a ball six inches and is sent off. The referee didn't need to send him off for that, it's really disappointing to see a game decided by a six-inch touch nowhere near the penalty area.
 

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Well that's a take on that, the ball is still rolling and hits his backfoot and the player never sets it.

No way on hell that is a yellow. What is the ref doing?

Edit to expand: let's say the ball is set and Rice is standing there since the foul occured 2 seconds before...the guy is kicking Rice no matter what...that was not an attempt to restart the play...he was kicking Rice and pretending to play the ball.
Sounds like a foul (or call) that VAR was made to overturn but probably isn’t allowed to review.
 

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End to end action the last few minutes of Arsenal-Brighton. Very entertaining.
 

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I’m not going to complain because Arsenal dropped points and it made for a very entertaining 2nd half but yeah that was a weak weak yellow and especially weak 2nd yellow
 

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How can the goalie get a yellow for time wasting and the ref not add time on? Brighton's young manager needs to be getting in about the 4th official. I would have added at least another minute.
 

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How can the goalie get a yellow for time wasting and the ref not add time on? Brighton's young manager needs to be getting in about the 4th official. I would have added at least another minute.
Because he would have lost if the ref did not gift them 30 minutes a man up...

Edit: I'm clearly not bitter...I'll stop now
 
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How can the goalie get a yellow for time wasting and the ref not add time on? Brighton's young manager needs to be getting in about the 4th official. I would have added at least another minute.
How do we even know if 6 minutes was warranted? The one thing I'll never understand about soccer (as someone who plays) is why the ref has to keep the time..and is the only person who knows how much time there is. It's the single biggest weakness for corruption in the game (besides allowing the ref solo discretion over really egregious cards and red cards). If you just allow the ref to start and stop a visible clock in the stadium..what changes with the game... other than teams and players stop trying to waste time?
 

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Havertz and Saka both had golden chances to put Arsenal ahead and blew it. Tough to blame the draw on the refs.
 

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Every time I think of switching away from Everton-Bornmouth, something exciting happens. So I put down the remote and then the game goes dead.
 

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Havertz and Saka both had golden chances to put Arsenal ahead and blew it. Tough to blame the draw on the refs.
"Blew it" is a pretty tough take on those two chances.
On the Rice card - the ball is still moving, so the re-start wasn't going to be given. It's a harsh decision.
Red cards are such a game-changer they should really be reserved for clear/obvious situations. To take a saying from the NBA - nobody paid to see Cavanagh turn a technicality into a red card when he wasn't forced to.
 

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"Blew it" is a pretty tough tale on those two chances.
On the Rice card - the ball is still moving, so the re-start wasn't going to be given. It's a harsh decision.
Red cards are such a game-changer they should really be reserved for clear/obvious situations. To take a saying from the NBA - nobody paid to see Cavanagh turn a technicality into a red card when he wasn't forced to.
It’s incredibly harsh and really unfair to give Rice a yellow there. Every match there’s at least a few instances of defenders trying to slow down a free kick and the standard is for the ref to blow the whistle, offer a warning, and allow the teams to get set. Add to that that the ball was still moving and Rice at least has the plausible explanation that he was still walking up field…just a bad, bad decision.
 

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There's more goals in this game for Everton. They've missed a few chances. Still, good to see them stopping the rot. I like Dyche being in this league.
 

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I am from Ipswich, so I have decided to adopt Ipswich Town as my second team (even bought a jersey) so combine that with Arsenal and it is going to be an very stressful year.
 

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Bournemouth have equalized and are searching for a winner, some good saves from Pickford to keep it level.
 

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Good grief. I felt that third goal in the gut, i cannae imagine what's happening to Dyche's body right now. He must be beelin - poor bastard.
 

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That's got to be the loudest full-time booing a home side has gotten on Matchday 3 in quite a long time.
 

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It's hard to kind of describe just how bad Everton were in the final ten minutes of their game. Not only did they blow a two goal lead, they managed to do that despite Pickford having to make two huge saves. Bournemouth were just quening up and getting free chance after free chance.
 

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Haaland puts Man City up 1-0 early, but a Dias own goal off a Bowen cross completely against the run of play has it square at 1-1.
 

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City feels souless, but they can put the ball into the net like no other.

Looks like we are counting on the 115 charges to reign them in this year---so not too likely this season is anything other than a City romp.
 

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There was some discussion in the Port Cellar recently about any comparable situations in any sport to Kevin Durant joining the Warriors, but it was hard to find an example where a player that good joins a team that’s already that good, and in a sport where one additional player can make that much of a difference.

I don’t think anyone in that discussion brought up Haaland joining City, and it’s still not a perfect parallel (the players were in very different stages of their careers, for example), but it may be the closest. City were already a great, title winning team, but adding this goal scoring machine to the squad does feel game breaking in the same way Durant did when he signed up with Golden State.
 

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There was some discussion in the Port Cellar recently about any comparable situations in any sport to Kevin Durant joining the Warriors, but it was hard to find an example where a player that good joins a team that’s already that good, and in a sport where one additional player can make that much of a difference.

I don’t think anyone in that discussion brought up Haaland joining City, and it’s still not a perfect parallel (the players were in very different stages of their careers, for example), but it may be the closest. City were already a great, title winning team, but adding this goal scoring machine to the squad does feel game breaking in the same way Durant did when he signed up with Golden State.
I feel like this is pretty common in soccer, where you have a sport where all the elite talent just drifts up to the top. Thinking about Neymar going to Barcelona, Di Stefano going to Real Madrid, Cruyff going to Barcelona, etc.

But yeah, City was deadly when they basically didn't have a traditional #9 and then they got the best #9 of his generation to come in at the perfect time in his career to dominate.

West Ham actually was in this game for a lot of it and played reasonably well, but Halaand just made three great runs and punished West Ham with clinical finishing.
 

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wich, so I have decided to adopt Ipswich Town as my second team (even bought a jersey) so combine that with Arsenal and it is going to be an v
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There was some discussion in the Port Cellar recently about any comparable situations in any sport to Kevin Durant joining the Warriors, but it was hard to find an example where a player that good joins a team that’s already that good, and in a sport where one additional player can make that much of a difference.

I don’t think anyone in that discussion brought up Haaland joining City, and it’s still not a perfect parallel (the players were in very different stages of their careers, for example), but it may be the closest. City were already a great, title winning team, but adding this goal scoring machine to the squad does feel game breaking in the same way Durant did when he signed up with Golden State.
City couldn't win a Club World Cup until Haaland showed up. City weren't the best club in the world until Haaland arrived, that'd be the equivalent of KD helping the Warriors continue to be World Champs. Noah Lyles didn't need to join another team to be world champion.
 

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It’s incredibly harsh and really unfair to give Rice a yellow there. Every match there’s at least a few instances of defenders trying to slow down a free kick and the standard is for the ref to blow the whistle, offer a warning, and allow the teams to get set. Add to that that the ball was still moving and Rice at least has the plausible explanation that he was still walking up field…just a bad, bad decision.
And in the same game...

Joao Pedro can't reach a ball that is a full yard out of bounds but still boots it about 50 yards downfield to Raya so that we can't do a quick throw in during a period of sustained Arsenal pressure. No card.

https://x.com/now_arsenaI/status/1829871680568930625

After a Brighton foul, Estupinan literally picks up the ball and starts running away with it to prevent the possibility of a quick restart. This came after the Rice incident! But no card.

https://x.com/AfcMark_/status/1829952210425561175

The inconsistently is just infuriating in addition to the main character syndrome. People around the world pay lots of money to watch players. They want referees to decide matches only if they are forced into that situation. They don't need to look for reasons to put their thumbs on the scale over minor bullshit.
 

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I was traveling during the game. I saw some of it on my phone. Everton looked very good going forward, especially Ndiaye.

I didn’t see the collapse.

Duchess is getting murdered by the fans for not subbing enough or soon enough.

it’s really ugly.
 

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Does Chelsea always flop this much? They probably don't need to to win, the one goal they've scored so far was very pretty, but it's been pretty bad so far this game
 

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Spurs largely controlled play but trail 1-0 at the half after falling asleep for a moment and letting Harvey Barnes stroll in for a goal.

Newcastle playing extremely physical in the midfield and have several players on a yellow.