(617) 779-7937 is the number you are looking for.ifmanis5 said:Is it fair or not fair to see this guy is injury prone?
(617) 779-7937 is the number you are looking for.ifmanis5 said:Is it fair or not fair to see this guy is injury prone?
Eddie Jurak said:This.
But, is it fair to say that Gronk doing his job puts him in that kind of harms way more than most players?
In other words, he's not injury prone, but he's a target.
He also has a high center of gravity and runs a lot of crossing routes. Its not universal but tall receivers tend to be sideline stretch guys, and the possession slot option midfield guys tend to be smaller and closer to the ground.Dogman2 said:
Or the hits he has taken that have injured him are hits that would injure all players. It's pretty much that simple.
He is a target because he catches the ball, right? That makes all receivers targets.
This seems spot on. Gronk is a big meathead who loves to party and play football (as Logan M. described him). I realize that no one who is getting beat by his TDs is happy, but how can any real football fan hate him in the abstract? He is perfectly and simplistically awesome, and the epitome of the NFL. Hating Gronk is like hating AP, or Russell Wilson, or Aaron Rodgers, or Cam Wake, or Brian Urlacher.DegenerateSoxFan said:I'm just at a loss to descibe how I feel on this, except that this guy is the greatest fucking tight end I have ever had the privilege of watching, and his career is getting absolutely derailed by injuries. And it has nothing to do with his off-season partying. He just plays balls-out and seems to get hurt out of sheer bad luck.
Every team has injuries every year. That the nature of the game. But one of these years before Brady's done, this team's major injuries are going to mostly limited to guys who aren't the best or among the best at their positions in the league.
I keep telling myself this.
Reverend said:Not to Grinch things up for all you people talking yourselves into a quicker than expected recovery because ACL injuries aren't as bad as they used to be, but some of you might want to re-check post #3 of this thread.
Dogman2 said:
Or the hits he has taken that have injured him are hits that would injure all players. It's pretty much that simple.
He is a target because he catches the ball, right? That makes all receivers targets.
ragnarok725 said:
He fights through more tackles, absorbs more contact, and fights for yards in a way that is more similar to a RB than a WR. His injuries have been contact-related injuries, whereas many receivers you'll hear about them pulling or straining something, Gronks have been tears and breaks. If he slipped out of bounds the way you see the AJ Greens of the world, maybe he'd be at a lower risk? He also wouldn't be Gronk if he did that, though.
It also has nothing to do with any of his injuries. His first was in a PAT, the second was a reinjure of the same injury and today was him running up the seam and got clipped. No tight ends in the league catch the ball and dive to the ground.ragnarok725 said:He fights through more tackles, absorbs more contact, and fights for yards in a way that is more similar to a RB than a WR. His injuries have been contact-related injuries, whereas many receivers you'll hear about them pulling or straining something, Gronks have been tears and breaks. If he slipped out of bounds the way you see the AJ Greens of the world, maybe he'd be at a lower risk? He also wouldn't be Gronk if he did that, though.
ragnarok725 said:
He fights through more tackles, absorbs more contact, and fights for yards in a way that is more similar to a RB than a WR. His injuries have been contact-related injuries, whereas many receivers you'll hear about them pulling or straining something, Gronks have been tears and breaks. If he slipped out of bounds the way you see the AJ Greens of the world, maybe he'd be at a lower risk? He also wouldn't be Gronk if he did that, though.
Ralphwiggum said:
DRS is the man but that post needs some clarification as it relates to his take on Gronk's timetable.
Extra if in there?Jettisoned said:The hit on Gronk didn't look all that intentional, but the fact that #33 clearly went for the killshot on Edelman on the Pats 3rd touchdown suggests to me that the Browns D weren't above trying to injure people to win this game. Maybe the dude wasn't trying to blow out Gronk's knee on that play and it was just an accident, but IMO it's pretty safe to assume that if most defensive players in the NFL will take the opportunity to injure their opponents, especially if they can do it "cleanly".
Ralphwiggum said:
DRS is the man but that post needs some clarification as it relates to his take on Gronk's timetable.
DaveRoberts'Shoes said:blah blah blah
3. If he actually did go to a hospital for observation, as Belichik said, I'm concerned about something else- he dislocated his knee and they're worried about a vascular injury or compartment syndrome developing or something else.
bakahump said:My first thought when I saw the play was Robert Edwards.....
bakahump said:Doom and gloom.....but I looked at my wife and said this may be the end of the Patriots as we know them...Yea they will make the playoffs this year....and could win a couple games....but a SB is out. And next year I think we are closer to the 1st 8 game offense we saw this year then the last 4 game offense if Gronk is out.
Was it a similar hit? I missed the 1999 rookie flag football game in Hawaii.
FWIW, Edwards had a non-contact posterior knee dislocation and a serious vascular injury, so not the same. And I get your snark here, just weighing in.
It's just odd that Gronk would go to a hospital for observation for a "simple" ACL
Who knows, maybe they want to monitor him for DTs
The super bowl is outside in cold weather. Maybe I am fooling myself but that appears to be a HUGE advantage for the Pats.BigSoxFan said:I'm not sure a SB is out. If the Pats get the #2 seed, they only need to win 2 games with at least 1 coming at home. The first game would be against a team like the Colts or Chiefs. A Gronk-less Pats team can beat either of those teams. Then, it's most likely down to a road game at Denver. We would be underdogs but even without Gronk, we're scoring points against them. The question is can the defense improve a bit and can the run game keep the ball out of manning's hands? Also, there's always the chance Peyton lays an egg in the divisional round and the Pats get a home AFCCG against a team like Baltimore.
Two things, first the hit wasn't remotely like the Robert Edwards injury, at all. Second, from where the New England Patriots are currently seeded a couple of wins puts them right back in the....bakahump said:Doom and gloom.....but I looked at my wife and said this may be the end of the Patriots as we know them...Yea they will make the playoffs this year....and could win a couple games....but a SB is out. And next year I think we are closer to the 1st 8 game offense we saw this year then the last 4 game offense if Gronk is out.
That rhythm was found by upping the tempo. They need to do that much more.ivanvamp said:I will say this. Yes, it would royally suck to not have Gronk on the field. But against the league's #4 ranked defense, here's what Brady and the Pats did in 5 possessions once Gronk left the game:
Brady: 20-27 (one spike), 74.1%, 259 yes, 9.6 ypa, 2 td, 0 int
Pats: 5 possessions: FG, TD, FG, TD, TD, 27 points
In other words, they managed to find a serious rhythm without Gronk and that bodes well for the rest of the year.
E5 Yaz said:
The Zach Sudfeld who hasn't even been targeted in his last four games with the Jets? I don't think he'd help much.PedroKsBambino said:I was one of many laughing earlier this year during training camp/preseason at the TE depth chart, but boy I'd be happy if the shell-of-Ballard or Sudfeld was available right now.
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MRI also shows MCL damage for Rob Gronkowski. The ACL tear puts him out for the year and will affect his preparation for 2014.
mascho said:See ya in 2015 Gronk.
Just let him completely heal and recover.
That's why you people pay me so well.lambeau said:DRS again nails diagnosis from the stands--ACL/MCL.
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What about the part of the injury that worried you(Jake Ballard Effect)?DaveRoberts'Shoes said:That's why you people pay me so well.
Wait... never mind.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
By which point Brady will be 45 years old.
Look, Gronk has an injury history as long as your arm. It's one of the reasons he fell in the draft. And now only a few years into his career he's suffered numerous serious injuries and half a dozen surgeries already. He's never going to completely heal, he's always going to be fighting some injury or another. Might as well just figure out how healthy he has to be to be effective. Because 100% is never happening.
johnmd20 said:
This is the truth! These severe injuries are piling up at a alarming rate for Gronk. He's never going to be close to 100% at this point and him staying on the field is going to be in doubt until he proves he can. It's really unfortunate. Gronk was set to have an epic hall of fame career.