Grant Williams - Pick #22

RedOctober3829

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Sullinger and Grant Williams have had really different paths.

Sullinger was a super hyped, #1 prospect coming out of high school and just got heavier every season.

Williams was a heavyset kid in high school, barely recruited, that has got leaner and better every season.
Sullinger also had back problems that caused him to fall in the draft and derailed his career.
 

Big John

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I believe that Sullnger's problem was beer, not food. Whatever it was, it ruined his career.
 

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My brother (sprinting coach) thoughts on Grant Willams: "Movement looks inhibited by a stiff lower back...very limited range of motion in his SI joint...which is too bad bc he has some skill and looks like a load. Wonder if there's an injury history there. If his body could twist a little bit he could be really, really good."
Just saw this. Absent a causal injury would he be a candidate to benefit from some chiropractic work? Or some some yoga? Or :gasp: some TB12 style flexibility/pliability work?

Legit question if your brother has the background/inclination to offer an opinion.
 

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Yeah they're both tweeners who fell lower in the draft than they probably should have. Similarities kinda end there.
I don’t think the similarities end there at all. Both are tweeners that struggle with lateral agility and lift. On the offensive end they each possess excellent court awareness with the ball while lacking explosion and have a need to extend their range beyond the arc.
 

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I don’t think the similarities end there at all. Both are tweeners that struggle with lateral agility and lift. On the offensive end they each possess excellent court awareness with the ball while lacking explosion and have a need to extend their range beyond the arc.
I love Sullinger, but I see better lateral movement and court awareness now with Williams entering the league. Sullinger was 2 inches taller and considerably heavier.

I get that I've only seen Grant against 20yos and G league players, but he moves better than Jared already and should get better, not worse, unless they ask him to bulk up 25 pounds.
 

Big John

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Sullinger had a 7-1 wingspan and was a great instinctive rebounder. Williams isn't that player. Williams has different strengths.
 

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I love Sullinger, but I see better lateral movement and court awareness now with Williams entering the league. Sullinger was 2 inches taller and considerably heavier.

I get that I've only seen Grant against 20yos and G league players, but he moves better than Jared already and should get better, not worse, unless they ask him to bulk up 25 pounds.
They aren’t really physical comps since Sully was a natural 4/5 and Grant more of a 3/4. However, for someone who will be defending out to the 3-point line he is going to struggle relatively similar to how Sully did versus the elbow jumper guys that he primarily defended.

I saw a link somewhere of a Grant believer (I’m not a non-believer I just see a high-floor/low-ceiling guy which I don’t believe in drafting) posting a clip of him defending dribble penetration resulting in the shooter getting off a clean look in the paint while Grant nearly fell over........and this was supposed to be a cherry-picked example of how Grant CAN move his feet.