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I can’t even imagine that kind of pressure, especially for a vet at this point in his career. And he fucking nailed it.
 

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Just so awesome. I can remember playing that video game "Tricky" about 15 years ago, and it's at the point they are doing tricks you could only do in the game when you got a super turbo boost thing, and it just seemed ridiculous. Now, it's real life. Really cool to see someone give him a run for his money. Much more fun than when he just dominated everyone. The thing is, I think he has more in him. The 1620 is out there.
 

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If figure skating were progressing the way snowboarding does, we'd be waiting for someone to do an octuple axle, instead of a quad.
 

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"The Return of the King!"
"White is the New Gold!"
Dude just threw out 2 awful canned catch phrases REALLY hoping one will stick. Boo this man. Boo! Boo him!
Yeah - “White is the new gold” was bad. But I thought they did a good job of being quiet and let the moment build before his run.
 

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Anyone else old enough to remember Shaun White, the skateboarder? Shit, I feel old. I remember when he was the prodigy that Tony Hawk discovered when he was like 10 years old and he used to show up on Tony Hawk's videos and shit.
 

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Yeah, he was doing both snowboard and skateboard at X Games for quite a while. Don't think he started focusing fully on snowboard until after Vancouver.
 

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I can’t decide what I prefer, the summer athletes who have legit rivalries and constantly throw shade at one another, or the winter athletes—particularly snowboarders—who are all very chill dudes and dudettes having fun and giving great hugs no matter what.

I suspect there is a significant psychological difference between the more directly competitive events and the “racing against a score/time/distance” events, in addition to the X-Games types simply being a different kind of athlete in the first place.

That also happens to be why so many winter events are so often anti-climactic to some degree.
 

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If it were ice jumping and not figure skating, I'd agree with you
Aside from the vestigial name, it’s closer to the former than the latter. They got rid of the actual “figure” part almost 30 years ago.

EDIT: At the Olympics, anyway. Apparently the figures hung around at US domestic events for a while longer, though it's still 20 years since they've been used there.
 
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Just so awesome. I can remember playing that video game "Tricky" about 15 years ago, and it's at the point they are doing tricks you could only do in the game when you got a super turbo boost thing, and it just seemed ridiculous. Now, it's real life. Really cool to see someone give him a run for his money. Much more fun than when he just dominated everyone. The thing is, I think he has more in him. The 1620 is out there.
I've never been a fan of X-games stuff (wasn't opposed, just didn't look into it), and I've found the halfpipe events compelling and very easy to get into. The scoring system is super wonky, but has held up to what my completely untrained eye suggests were the best runs. Despite being an untimed event, there's enough that's objective about it that it's not hard to get to a level of understanding sufficient to follow the action. I can't follow all the trick names much less identify them, but you get an intuitive sense for what's harder, what's a good landing, etc. Every aspect to the competition, except the scoring, is really well-designed.

And yeah, I love that there are some non-American young guns out there who could have taken the thing if White wasn't on his best game. Hirano was the fucking balls, frankly they could have given it to him without it being robbery. But even moreso, I love that White has his own "signature move" that he invented, which he can go out there and do and have it earn him big points. The sport is embryonic, there's clearly a ton that has yet to evolve and mature, and we're watching the pioneers. Meanwhile, they're not making faster mountains, new hockey sticks or a bigger bobsled.

If figure skating were progressing the way snowboarding does, we'd be waiting for someone to do an octuple axle, instead of a quad.
Probably has something to do with the factoid I saw on the "enhanced" web view - engineering for the halfpipes has advanced so substantially that what was an 11.5' halfpipe wall in the inaugural olympic event in 1998 is now a 22' wall.
 

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Is anyone else annoyed at the NBC graphics? People complete their run, and stare into space. Then a crappy full-screen graphic comes up with the score buried somewhere inside of it. Meanwhile, there's no leader board shown, so if you haven't memorized the scores, you're still reliant on the announcers. Just an awkward visual production.
 

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Is anyone else annoyed at the NBC graphics? People complete their run, and stare into space. Then a crappy full-screen graphic comes up with the score buried somewhere inside of it. Meanwhile, there's no leader board shown, so if you haven't memorized the scores, you're still reliant on the announcers. Just an awkward visual production.
NBC Olympics graphics have been bad for years. It took three or four days of swimming in the 2016 Olympics before they realized they needed to put the distance on the screen during the race.
 

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Camera work for snowboard-cross is terrible. They're putting the camera on the guy(s) running away with it when everything interesting is happening with the guys trying to be the fastest to get back up and running.
 

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Is this the thread for bitching about NBC?

All I want to do is watch the finals of Men's moguls that my DVR cut off. Why is this impossible to find on their website? (to make it even better, it's impossible to search for things there without spoiling literally every event)

It's really amazing how the quest to make every website 'modern' makes it increasingly less useful
 

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Camera work for snowboard-cross is terrible. They're putting the camera on the guy(s) running away with it when everything interesting is happening with the guys trying to be the fastest to get back up and running.
Agreed, and i was going to post the same thing last night, but fell asleep.

They did a bit better on the second semifinal than the first . But yes, the compelling action is not watching the one person ski in alone 18 seconds before everyone else. The compelling part of the race is trying to see the 5 other competitors scramble, and fight their way up jumps, when they have no momentum
 

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As much as their prime time coverage sucks, I must say that the NBCSports app on my Apple TV is excellent.
 

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Oh well.

Harsh for Jacobellis that she has to live with that one split second mistake as her legacy.

The Dan Marino of snowboarding.
 

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I know I'm a day later, but the luge relay was a blast to watch. Glad I DVR'd it.

Also, it was shocking to see how uncompetitive Sven Kramer looked in the 10,000m event. Looked like he was never even in that race - you kept waiting for him to turn it on and not only did that not happen, he quickly fell behind and sucked all the drama out. Ted-Jan Bloemen went from not even being able to watch Kramer skate to celebrating while his rival still had five laps to go!
 

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I was watching the Luge in the background while I was working and on a conference call, and I could not figure out what was going on. I did get to actually watch the final 5 or so teams so at that point I understood. It was fun
 

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Curious how bad viewership numbers will be given the quit poor US showing this cycle. I’d think it has to impact them, especially later on when America has no true medal hopes in women’s figure skating.
 

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Is this the thread for bitching about NBC?

All I want to do is watch the finals of Men's moguls that my DVR cut off. Why is this impossible to find on their website? (to make it even better, it's impossible to search for things there without spoiling literally every event)

It's really amazing how the quest to make every website 'modern' makes it increasingly less useful
I've switched over to Fubo.tv for non-live, non-prime-time, stuff. I am in total agreement with you.
 

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Apologies if there's discussion of this elsewhere but, I think this woman is a goddamned legend. Winter Olympics 2018: The incredible story of Elizabeth Swaney, the worst skier in Pyeongchang

...in Elizabeth Swaney, an American skier competing for Hungary in Pyeongchang, the public suddenly have a new hero that has proven anyone can achieve their dream if they go about the right way of reaching it.

The 33-year-old finished Monday’s ski halfpipe qualifiers in last, and it was the sight of her rocking back and forth on the snow, not performing any tricks and achieving minimal air off the ramp, that captured the eye of those watching.

Was this the wrong person? Had Swaney been replaced at short notice by a complete stranger who had never skied before and everyone forgot to tell the commentators?

No, it was Swaney alright. She reached the 2018 Winter Olympics through a combination of cunning, awareness and exploitation of a sheer lack of female halfpipe skiers.
 

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What's everyone's take on the girl removing her medal from the Canadian women's hockey team right after they placed it on her. I don't know much about it other than they lost to the U.S. I saw the game recap during lunch today and it was on closed captioning in the restaurant. No volume. Is there more to it?

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What's everyone's take on the girl removing her medal from the Canadian women's hockey team right after they placed it on her. I don't know much about it other than they lost to the U.S. I saw the Gabe recap and that during lunch today and it was on closed captioning in the restaurant. Is there more to it
People react emotionally in emotional situations.
What’s need for a take beyond that?
 

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What's everyone's take on the girl removing her medal from the Canadian women's hockey team right after they placed it on her. I don't know much about it other than they lost to the U.S. I saw the Gabe recap and that during lunch today and it was on closed captioning in the restaurant. Is there more to it
It's an incredibly poor look. I get the disappointment but she's was on the other side in 2014 - it's not like this was her one and only shot at a title. It very much goes against the camaraderie between countries that exemplifies so much of the Olympic experience in less-heralded sports.
 

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It's an incredibly poor look. I get the disappointment but she's was on the other side in 2014 - it's not like this was her one and only shot at a title. It very much goes against the camaraderie between countries that exemplifies so much of the Olympic experience in less-heralded sports.
There is no camaraderie between countries when it comes to US vs Canada in women’s ice hockey.
 

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I've seen that before in European soccer. Similar situation in the Champions League Final, where the losing team has to hang around watching the celebrations, then go up and get their silver medals before the winners get their medals and the trophy. It's not that uncommon to see a disappointed player take their medal off shortly after getting it. Don't think I've ever seen it in the Olympics before, but it's understandable.
 

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I've seen that before in European soccer. Similar situation in the Champions League Final, where the losing team has to hang around watching the celebrations, then go up and get their silver medals before the winners get their medals and the trophy. It's not that uncommon to see a disappointed player take their medal off shortly after getting it. Don't think I've ever seen it in the Olympics before, but it's understandable.
If I were better at the InnerWebs, this is where I would post a GIF of Belichick handing over the AFC Championship trophy with such disdain.
 

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It's not that uncommon to see a disappointed player take their medal off shortly after getting it. Don't think I've ever seen it in the Olympics before, but it's understandable.
I think this is an understatement - I'd say the majority of players immediately take their medals off when they lose in the Champions League or World Cup finals. To me, it's meaningless. The loss is fresh and the medal must feel like empty consolation. I get that an Olympic silver medal has more meaning than a World Cup loser's medal, but in the moment I'm sure it doesn't feel much different.
 

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I think this is an understatement - I'd say the majority of players immediately take their medals off when they lose in the Champions League or World Cup finals. To me, it's meaningless. The loss is fresh and the medal must feel like empty consolation. I get that an Olympic silver medal has more meaning than a World Cup loser's medal, but in the moment I'm sure it doesn't feel much different.
I think generally it's because with something like a hockey or soccer finals, the silver isn't a reward - you've already celebrated coming in at least 2nd when you won the semi-final. So there's no joy in coming in the top 2, there's only sadness that you lost that game. Most Olympic sports you don't know you've won the silver until that event is run, so while you might be a little sad at losing the gold, the joy in getting the silver is present and new (McKayla Maroney excepted).
 

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Especially 10-15 minutes after the end of a hotly contested SO loss against the only rival you have, one that you’ve had two line brawls with in the last couple of years. She’s probably one of the best 50 people in the world at what she does and lost on the biggest stage in heartbreaking fashion.
 

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Especially 10-15 minutes after the end of a hotly contested SO loss against the only rival you have, one that you’ve had two line brawls with in the last couple of years. She’s probably one of the best 50 people in the world at what she does and lost on the biggest stage in heartbreaking fashion.
That's all fine and good, but she was also a member of the 2014 Gold medal team that dropped an equally heartbreaking loss on those same rivals. Also, Larocque is not some kid, she's 29 years old - how about some respect for your rivals who pushed you and played you so hard?
 

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So because she won once, it’s less painful to lose in similarly heartbreaking fashion? She acted irrationally because she is a human showing emotion 10 minutes after she got her heart ripped out in the last game she will probably play in a sport nobody cares about for 3.9 years. Irrational actions make sports fun. And I don’t particularly care about sportsmanship matters that don’t harm anybody anymore.

I would also bet they shook hands at the end of the game (because hockey), which is a greater sign of the sportsmanship you desire IMO.
 

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I guess my question was answered. It was just emotions not something that happened in game other than losing