Game 6 - It was not Death, for I stood up

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I’ve seen multiple comments over the past couple weeks along the lines of “They overachieved this year; this was always a bridge year.” My honest question: bridge to what? What/who are people seeing in the wings who will take this team to another level?
 

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When you have a dearth of scoring talent, you just can’t make the deluge of mental mistakes that this team makes. Shorthanded for 3/4 of a period this playoffs due to bench minors. Brain dead play after brain dead play by the defense in their own zone.

The positives from the season are Swayman’s play under pressure in the playoffs and Lohrei’s emergence—and I wanted him moved at the deadline for the right deal. But Pasta didn’t have the impact a player of his stature should—again—and the commitments to McAvoy and Lindholm going forward really worry me.
McAvoy is likely seriously injured in his wrist, I suspect we'll learn that tomorrow.

Swayman showed he's a true number 1 and I expect Ullmark will be moved this summer.

The braindead play is on coaching but I doubt they make a change there.
 

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Sorry to see the season end, but they had a great season for a transition year.

Don't see a reason to call for heads.

Big problem this offseason is paying swayman and figuring out how to deal with Ullmark.
 

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I’ve seen multiple comments over the past couple weeks along the lines of “They overachieved this year; this was always a bridge year.” My honest question: bridge to what? What/who are people seeing in the wings who will take this team to another level?
Moreso because they literally had no money to spend to adequately replace Bergy and Krejci. Now they have money. Go and make some moves.
 

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Firing the coach will solve all their problems! They’re just a HC away!
Probably not. But they were the best team in hockey last year and gagged up the playoffs. The same team beat them this year with the same strategy as they used last year. They lead all other teams combined in bench penalties in the playoffs.
They can't make any significant trades. The only change they can make realistically is trade Ully and fire the coach.
 

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When you have a dearth of scoring talent, you just can’t make the deluge of mental mistakes that this team makes. Shorthanded for 3/4 of a period this playoffs due to bench minors. Brain dead play after brain dead play by the defense in their own zone. Absolutely shit adjustments on the powerplay, and no style flexibility to generate more shots when you don’t have the skill to get the perfect shots. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

The positives from the season are Swayman’s play under pressure in the playoffs and Lohrei’s emergence—and I wanted him moved at the deadline for the right deal. But Pasta didn’t have the impact a player of his stature should—again—and the commitments to McAvoy and Lindholm going forward really worry me. Maybe we can extend Forbort.
The bolded was proven nicely when they lose on exactly the style of play they should have been employing.

But no. Monty doesn’t change.
 

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Great transition season without all time Bruins Bergeron and Krejci. Need to find a way to grab a 1C but not going to be easy. Going to be an interesting decision on DeBrusk.

I love what Montgomery brings to the team. They just don’t have young horses on offense right now. Would like to get a bit tougher on defense.

Toughest sports time of the year for me is end of hockey season.
 

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I too love a record for too many men penalties in 13 games. I too love insisting on a style of play built for high skill teams, when you have nothing approaching a high skill team.

He’s the bestest.
 

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I agree with your post in full but wanted to highlight this one: I've always thought Edmonton makes sense, for say, RNH. What do you think about this? Similar cap too, fills needs for both.
It depends, since Ully has a no trade and we don't know what teams are on it.

They probably don't want to trade in the division but Ottawa makes a lot of sense too, they badly need competent goaltending.
 

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I too love a record for too many men penalties in 13 games. I too love insisting on a style of play built for high skill teams, when you have nothing approaching a high skill team.

He’s the bestest.
Tons of great coaches out there. All they need to do is swing a dead cat
 

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Great transition season without all time Bruins Bergeron and Krejci. Need to find a way to grab a 1C but not going to be easy. Going to be an interesting decision on DeBrusk.
he was their best skater all playoffs. led in goals. led in points. they get half - hell, a quarter - of what he gave them from the other top 6 they're moving on. gotta sign him.
 

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This roster has major flaws. Hockey IQ is one of them but the lack of talent at the center position is pretty jarring compared to other playoff teams. If someone has to go I’m looking at Neely and Sweeney before Montgomery. Cassidy sure wasn’t the problem.
 

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Too superstitious for game threads until it was over.

This roster has major flaws. Hockey IQ is one of them but the lack of talent at the center position is pretty jarring compared to other playoff teams. If someone has to go I’m looking at Neely and Sweeney before Montgomery. Cassidy sure wasn’t the problem.
You fucking serious? Ask Jake DeBrusk (who I do not like) if Cassidy wasn’t the problem.
 

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When you have a dearth of scoring talent, you just can’t make the deluge of mental mistakes that this team makes. Shorthanded for 3/4 of a period this playoffs due to bench minors. Brain dead play after brain dead play by the defense in their own zone. Absolutely shit adjustments on the powerplay, and no style flexibility to generate more shots when you don’t have the skill to get the perfect shots. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
The Bruins had more than nine shots in just three periods this series. They had six or fewer in eight of 18 periods. Monty seems wholly incapable of adjusting strategy within a game or even a series and instead just tosses the lines into a blender before wondering why the lines of the moment fail to play with more cohesion.
 

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The Bruins had more than nine shots in just three periods this series. They had six or fewer in eight of 18 periods. Monty seems wholly incapable of adjusting strategy within a game or even a series and instead just tosses the lines into a blender before wondering why the lines of the moment fail to play with more cohesion.
Is this Monty, or the fact that they had to fill 6 spots this year with minimum salary guys who weren’t on the team last year?
 

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Is this Monty, or the fact that they had to fill 6 spots this year with minimum salary guys who weren’t on the team last year?
I think the lack of shots is in large part the philosophy of quality over quantity. Which would be fine if they had skill players.
 

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he was their best skater all playoffs. led in goals. led in points. they get half - hell, a quarter - of what he gave them from the other top 6 they're moving on. gotta sign him.
I think he falls in the more valuable to the Bruins than others… I hope he stays. I just worry about paying a price one peg higher than the production.
 

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I think the lack of shots is in large part the philosophy of quality over quantity. Which would be fine if they had skill players.
I think it’s part of it. But they also had very little o-zone possession and I think talent is part of it. And when they did get great chances the last two games (quite a few times) they lacked the talent to finish.
 

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Too superstitious for game threads until it was over.

This roster has major flaws. Hockey IQ is one of them but the lack of talent at the center position is pretty jarring compared to other playoff teams. If someone has to go I’m looking at Neely and Sweeney before Montgomery. Cassidy sure wasn’t the problem.
I just cannot understand how anybody can think Sweeney is a problem. He a very good GM.

Cassidy went out in the first round with a loaded team.
 

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Nobody heard him, the dead man,
But still he lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.

Poor chap, he always loved larking
And now he’s dead
It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
They said.

Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
(Still the dead one lay moaning)
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
… and TSC shall lead us.
 

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I mean, literally no other teams wanted JVR, Heinen, and Brazeau. Boqvist, Lauko, Beecher, and Maroon are probably playing because they can’t afford anyone else. It was a fun season but you don’t win with your bottom 6 looking like that, let alone Morgan Geekie (who I love) getting time on your top line with Trent Frederic centering your second line occasionally in the playoffs.
 

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I think it’s part of it. But they also had very little o-zone possession and I think talent is part of it. And when they did get great chances the last two games (quite a few times) they lacked the talent to finish.
Agree, and that’s yet another reason to think their philosophy is wrong.

Volume works when talent isn’t there. Create rebounds and crash.
 

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1 Cup in the past half century of Jacobs ownership. Put more of the blame on the brass than the players. Would like to see Sweeney and Montgomery gone.
 

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The roster paid the price for going all in last season. But they'll have a shit ton of cap space, and only a couple of players they need to resign (Swagman, maybe DeBrusk). And Ullmark should net them a nice return this summer. Poitras is expected back as well, and we may see some organic growth from Lohrei, Beecher, et al.
 

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It depends, since Ully has a no trade and we don't know what teams are on it.

They probably don't want to trade in the division but Ottawa makes a lot of sense too, they badly need competent goaltending.
Yeah, Sogaard is pretty shit. Huge but hasn't translated in the National, Korpisalo certainly isn't the answer, Forsberg is in a shit spot, at under -10 GSAA. They have so much young talent that I like that I feel has no shot of being available...

I hate that I'm typing this. But it feels inevitable. It's how will I get hurt again?
 

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It’s tough to get super down when they managed to get into the second round with this roster, and to game 6 against a much stronger opponent.

But they just keep making the same dumb fuck mistakes over and over and over and over.
 

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Yeah, I think we should fire Monty for losing this series, no matter what anyone else says.
 

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I mean, literally no other teams wanted JVR, Heinen, and Brazeau. Boqvist, Lauko, Beecher, and Maroon are probably playing because they can’t afford anyone else. It was a fun season but you don’t win with your bottom 6 looking like that, let alone Morgan Geekie (who I love) getting time on your top line with Trent Frederic centering your second line occasionally in the playoffs.
They went all in last year to add at the deadline with a team that looked like Cup winners. They blew it, so the cap was an issue this year and they had to sign unwanted players.

lots of money to spend this summer.
 

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Firing the coach will solve all their problems! They’re just a HC away!
Why do all of you guys strawman this one so badly? It’s fucking weird. There have been repeated, specific criticisms of Montgomery, and there’s pretty much never a defense of what he does in connection with them. It’s always this weird “Look how reasonable I am!” misrepresentation the posts that you guys disagree with, or some non-responsive, “But they don’t have the talent [and pay no attention to what happened last season when they did and he helped sabotage them with inexplicable shitting bricks personnel moves].”

I don’t know that I’ve ever see one of you talk about all of the things that Montgomery is really awesome at that a potential replacement wouldn’t be. And I’m more than willing to be educated in that regard. Was Montgomery on a lot of your wishlists to replace Cassidy, or was he just another guy?
 

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They went all in last year to add at the deadline with a team that looked like Cup winners. They blew it, so the cap was an issue this year and they had to sign unwanted players.

lots of money to spend this summer.
Yeah that’s basically my point. This wasn’t a great team. They went about as far as realistic unless they played way over their heads. I’m cool with it and adding a few pieces to have a legit chance next year, which I think is realistic given the core talent they have.
 

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he was their best skater all playoffs. led in goals. led in points. they get half - hell, a quarter - of what he gave them from the other top 6 they're moving on. gotta sign him.
Meh. I think they’re probably exhausted with him. Shows up out of shape, pretty firmly in his own head[case], streaky. I’m not chomping at the bit to let him go, and would be fine with him back at a good price, but I don’t think they’ll miss him all that much. And I love his game when he’s on.
 

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The Bruins had more than nine shots in just three periods this series. They had six or fewer in eight of 18 periods. Monty seems wholly incapable of adjusting strategy within a game or even a series and instead just tosses the lines into a blender before wondering why the lines of the moment fail to play with more cohesion.
Is this a Monty or organizational problem? Sweeney is the one that said we’re not a volume shooting team.
 

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It seems like everyone agrees there wasn’t a ton of offense talent on this team. It’s a positive that Monty got them this far. Isn’t it fair to say that the system that he ran is also a negative knowing all of this?
 

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I didn't watch another play after the goal got upheld in game 4. I fucking hate this league, and I don't know how any coach gets past the Bruins rules and the Marchand tax. Someone upthread talked about "only 1 cup" under the current ownership, but the Bruins were absolutely fucked out of a cup in the STL series.
 

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It seems like everyone agrees there wasn’t a ton of offense talent on this team. It’s a positive that Monty got them this far. Isn’t it fair to say that the system that he ran is also a negative knowing all of this?
I think it’s probably accurate to say Monty isn’t a wartime consigliere. He has a hard time making adjustments in the playoffs.he’s a fine regular season coach.
 

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I love Good Jake, but he’s so streaky and just positively disappears for weeks and weeks and weeks (even excepting his broken wrist time). Someone is going to give him a crazy contract and I really hope it isn’t Boston.