Do you think Krejci is nursing an injury? He's looked awful for most of the playoffs and was terrible in the dot tonight.
Game 3: Everything is le Awesome
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Here's a Vine of the Subban play, for those like me who may have been looking at this thread when the play happened.
https://vine.co/v/M6H09x1QiOI#/search/subban%20knocks%20net%20off
https://vine.co/v/M6H09x1QiOI#/search/subban%20knocks%20net%20off
Titoschew said:
I was just going to post that I went back and noticed he wasn't alerting anyone until Subban was out of the box. Rask also mishandled the puck a bit on the first Montreal goal, and I don't think he really needed to play the puck in the first place. He's been a pretty average goalie this series, and he needs to be better.
BigPapiLumber Co. said:
I missed the game and am only just seeing this, but why would Subban be looking to knock the net off there? Best case scenario it's a faceoff in front of Price. He's the clear front runner to get that puck, on his forehand no less.
Edit: I looked at it some more and I think it was totally accidental. Subban is sort of gliding in, watching Price attempt to play the puck. Subban isn't even sure the puck is going to make it past Price and behind the net until he's at the crease. Combined with having to lift his right leg to avoid hitting Price, he just wasn't in a good position to cut the net tight. I think the fact that Subban continued to play through the contact with the post without missing a beat and went for the clear speaks to his intentions. My read is that he simply wanted to get to that puck quickly but didn't have a good route because he was unsure of where the puck was heading due to Price.
Stitch01 said:
I said Bruins in 7 and I still think that. I think they come out and win game 4 and then go home to take game 5, and then Montreal comes away with game 6, setting up a B's epic win in game 7.
But even if they go down 3-1, I think they win game 5, and then play the game of their lives in game 6 in Montreal, in order to bring it back to the garden for game 7.
The non-call on Bourque holding Söderberg was most egregious for me, right after Söderberg got called for goalie interference on Price as well.
Yeah, Subban knocking the net off should technically be a penalty shot, but that isn't within the realm of reality late in the game at Bell Centre.
Yeah, Subban knocking the net off should technically be a penalty shot, but that isn't within the realm of reality late in the game at Bell Centre.
PedroSpecialK said:
Good point; what is within the realm of reality late in the game at Bell Centre or the old Forum is shit like that being called against the visiting team so the Habs can pull a miracle win out of their collective asses, like too many men on the ice in 1979 vs the Bruins for example.
And so it goes.
jk333 said:
I did look at a longer clip which is where I drew my above reasoning. I honestly don't think that was intentional, but I didn't see it in the context of the entire game. I think that was a man on a mission to be first to that puck who got a late break due being unsure how/if Price would handle the puck.
ForceAtHome said:
Dude - come on. Anyone who has played hockey, or watched hockey for any significant amount of time knows what he did was 100% intentional. How many times watching hockey have you ever seen someone (without getting pushed/tripped) just HAPPEN TO RUN INTO THE POST? Never. It literally never happens. Why? Because these guys are the best hockey players in the world and know exactly where they are in relation to everything on the ice. I play in a mens C league and I've never even seen someone do that unintentionally.
With the control Subban has shown of his skating, checking, and body movements in general, I find it really hard to believe he didn't do that intentionally. In fact, the manner in which he did it to make it look incidental is IMO another example of him playing right on the edge and using his smarts to get away with it.
I don't begrudge him for it, it's a heady play because that's never getting called, but the guy knows how to get every possible advantage for his team and make it count.
I don't begrudge him for it, it's a heady play because that's never getting called, but the guy knows how to get every possible advantage for his team and make it count.
Since an experience card was played, to add, I played in college and have seen running into the post happen at a lot of levels. It's not frequent by any means, but it's not like it "literally never happens." Even a great skater like PK Subban, as seen above, can run into the post. In fact, someone like Subban may be more likely to run into the post because of his confidence in cutting corners so sharply.
I still don't see why Subban would prefer a faceoff in front of his goalie rather than being the first to a puck on his forehand. That's not a strategic advantage, especially given the guys taking draws. Bergeron is significantly better on the draw than anyone the Canadiens have. Bergeron was 61% for the game, 58.4% in the playoffs, and 58.6% in the regular season, making him one of the elite guys around the league. Plekanec was 50% in the game and under 50% in both the regular season and playoffs. If Subban is smart enough to make these on the fly judgements, he's smart enough to know that Bergeron > Plekanec in the dot.
I still don't see why Subban would prefer a faceoff in front of his goalie rather than being the first to a puck on his forehand. That's not a strategic advantage, especially given the guys taking draws. Bergeron is significantly better on the draw than anyone the Canadiens have. Bergeron was 61% for the game, 58.4% in the playoffs, and 58.6% in the regular season, making him one of the elite guys around the league. Plekanec was 50% in the game and under 50% in both the regular season and playoffs. If Subban is smart enough to make these on the fly judgements, he's smart enough to know that Bergeron > Plekanec in the dot.
I think most of the commentators I've read today have thought Subban did that on purpose. It's not definitive, but certainly seemed suspicious. I'm not convinced either way.
And I think you almost certainly want the faceoff over the situation where you're scrambling around in your DZ trying to clear the puck against an extra attacker. If your goalie makes a clean save, do you want him holding the puck for a faceoff or dumping it behind the net for one of his defenders? You take the faceoff and the shot to win clean control that way.
And I think you almost certainly want the faceoff over the situation where you're scrambling around in your DZ trying to clear the puck against an extra attacker. If your goalie makes a clean save, do you want him holding the puck for a faceoff or dumping it behind the net for one of his defenders? You take the faceoff and the shot to win clean control that way.