Game 17: Pats guaranteed to beat Bills scrubs

8slim

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Yes. I’m sure that we would have traded the first to the Titans or Browns whichever ended up at 3.
So walk me through this. Both those teams know we aren’t going to take a QB at #1. What’s their motivation to deal the 3rd to us, along with other picks, to move up?

You think they’d be afraid of not getting either of Sanders/Ward that they want? Enough to give up that much capital?
 

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So walk me through this. Both those teams know we aren’t going to take a QB at #1. What’s their motivation to deal the 3rd to us, along with other picks, to move up?
The team in 3 gets the ability to pick which QB they want. Which also motivates the team at 2 to deal
 

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The team in 3 gets the ability to pick which QB they want. Which also motivates the team at 2 to deal
Right but that assumes they value one of them enough to trade away a decent chunk of capital for the privilege. We’re sure they’d do that?
 

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So walk me through this. Both those teams know we aren’t going to take a QB at #1. What’s their motivation to deal the 3rd to us, along with other picks, to move up?

You think they’d be afraid of not getting either of Sanders/Ward that they want? Enough to give up that much capital?
Im not one arguing they would get a haul to move down 2 spots, but they would absolutely get more (likely future) picks. And they would retain the ability to draft the best player in the draft.
 

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Im not one arguing they would get a haul to move down 2 spots, but they would absolutely get more (likely future) picks. And they would retain the ability to draft the best player in the draft.
Maybe. Like I just asked of teddykgb, this assumes one of them has a distinct preference for Sanders or Ward. What if they don’t?
 

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Maybe. Like I just asked of teddykgb, this assumes one of them has a distinct preference for Sanders or Ward. What if they don’t?
Then they would be rolling the dice that there isn’t a team outside the top 5 looking to jump in and grab Sanders/Ward. Because if there is, they get neither.
 

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Maybe. Like I just asked of teddykgb, this assumes one of them has a distinct preference for Sanders or Ward. What if they don’t?
There are other potential trade partners further down like the Raiders that would give substantially more to move up including picks in 26.
 

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It was really egregious to be running the plays that they were running in this game. You can tank by play-calling without it being too obvious (at least, fineable). This was a massive miss by the organization and more evidence they don’t have a fucking plan nor a leader.
 

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I get the disappointment, but Milton has game skills and a big arm. And I didn't say 4 was "better" than 1. Anyway, assuming the coach and front office are coming back next season, the Pats will be just as bad next season and we're more likely to be having "Draft Watch" threads than "Postseason opponent" ones.
Too many people on this board watched this game and walked away thinking Milton is legit. Maybe he is - but guess what? This game didn't come close to proving that. He made some very athletic/exciting plays, but almost all of his completed passes have to come with the largest grain of salt. When he was 9/9 at the start of the game, I'm pretty sure at least 6 or 7 of those came on wide open comeback/out routes. He threw against the most basic of basic coverages.

If people are using that for a silver lining, they weren't paying attention.
 

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Then they would be rolling the dice that there isn’t a team outside the top 5 looking to jump in and grab Sanders/Ward. Because if there is, they get neither.
Agreed. But then we don’t get Hunter.

Like I said, I’d rather we have the top pick. But I think we’re being a bit too certain what we would have gotten for it. And that’s assuming we would have traded it.
 

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Agreed. But then we don’t get Hunter.

Like I said, I’d rather we have the top pick. But I think we’re being a bit too certain what we would have gotten for it. And that’s assuming we would have traded it.
Regardless of value or whether they would or would not have traded it, it would have made for a more fun next 4 months.
 

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Regardless of value or whether they would or would not have traded it, it would have made for a more fun next 4 months.
It’ll still be interesting, because being at 4 probably increases the likelihood that we trade out of the top 10. Depending on if the Giants do something idiotic at 3.
 

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It’ll still be interesting, because being at 4 probably increases the likelihood that we trade out of the top 10. Depending on if the Giants do something idiotic at 3.
Trading out of the top 10 doesn’t sound like a strong strategy for a team devoid of elite talent.
 

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Trading out of the top 10 doesn’t sound like a strong strategy for a team devoid of elite talent.
This isn’t exactly the draft to find elite top 10 talent in the positions where they are hurting. Guess you could drop back a few and grab McMillan.
 

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Too many people on this board watched this game and walked away thinking Milton is legit. Maybe he is - but guess what? This game didn't come close to proving that. He made some very athletic/exciting plays, but almost all of his completed passes have to come with the largest grain of salt. When he was 9/9 at the start of the game, I'm pretty sure at least 6 or 7 of those came on wide open comeback/out routes. He threw against the most basic of basic coverages.

If people are using that for a silver lining, they weren't paying attention.
I don't disagree that this game was not a serious test, but let's assume that Milton's play was a mirage and he sucks going forward. That means the Front Office screwed up every pick in the 2024 draft except Maye. And those are probably the same guys making the picks in 2025. This franchise is back to the bad old days - questionable at every level from owners to coaches, and a demonstrably bad roster. Buckle up, it's gonna be a rough ride.
 

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Well, with any luck, Mayo will have won his first and his last game as HC of the NEP.

I swear to God, this current organization could fuck up a wet dream.