Game 1: Revenge

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@VORP Speed, I share the hate you must have for Houston. Much like your Rays, the last time we lost to this team in the playoffs felt like we should have won. The Rays had so many opportunities in game 2 that it could have been a 4 game series had they capitalized. When we played Houston, it felt like the umpires and all other forces of nature were not in our favor. Walked away from that series feeling like they stole it.

Not anymore. This Yankees team is ready, locked in, loaded, and a much different team. We are a more patient bunch with a creative style of play. Our bullpen used to be 4 guys who just threw hard. Now we have a loaded pen of pitchers with different styles. Our rotation was CC and Tanaka. Now we have Paxton and a healthy, rested Severino. Now we have the opener. We have super Gardner and Gleyber. Did you know Altuve is short? We have a new manager who won’t be leaving CC and Severino in too long.

One game at a time. Just win. They should be playing the 2017 ALCS Astros celebration on loop in that clubhouse.

Let’s go Yankees!
 

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I forgot, @VORP Speed does this mean you're a temporary Yankees fan? I successfully converted my Sox fan wife. She refuses to say she'll root for the Yankees but she does say "I hope your team wins."
 

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Greinke has been giving legendary interviews. This nugget made me laugh when asked about the Yankees lineup.

Greinke said it best about the Bronx Bombers at his Friday news conference: "It's tougher to get good hitters out than not-as-good hitters."
 

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We're still waiting for official roster announcements, NY's changes should be Hicks and CC for Wade and Lyons, although I still think Ford should probably be on there too as a lefty threat.

Both of these teams are decidedly better than 2017, although HOU's rotation is not as deep (lost Keuchel, Morton, McCullers and gained Cole and Greinke). The lineup comparisons are revealing as to just how much better NY's is now:

NY has 4 guys from the game 1 lineup, Judge, Gardner, Sanchez, Didi and have added LeMahieu, Encarnacion, Stanton, Gleyber and Gio (!!!). The 2017 guys gone or hurt are Bird, Holliday, Hicks (now likely back but coming off the bench), Castro, and Todd Frazier.

HOU has 5 or 6 guys from the game 1 lineup, Springer, Altuve, Correa, Gurriel, Bregman and Reddick, and have added Yordan, Brantley, Maldonado and Tucker I think is splitting time with Reddick. The 2017 team had Beltran, Marwin, McCann in those spots.
 

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I forgot, @VORP Speed does this mean you're a temporary Yankees fan? I successfully converted my Sox fan wife. She refuses to say she'll root for the Yankees but she does say "I hope your team wins."
I view the Yankees kind of like a big brother. They pick on you constantly, they steal all your stuff, you desperately want to beat them, but ultimately you rather see them win than someone outside the family. Plus, it will just make it sweeter to knock them off their pedestal next year.
 

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I view the Yankees kind of like a big brother. They pick on you constantly, they steal all your stuff, you desperately want to beat them, but ultimately you rather see them win than someone outside the family. Plus, it will just make it sweeter to knock them off their pedestal next year.
Rays-Yankees is the main division rivalry going forward as Boston tries to figure out what its plan is.
 

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Hicks and CC added, but Wade and Voit are the ones dropped, so NY has 13 pitchers and 12 position players. This has to mean they're seriously thinking about starting Hicks at least some games, because otherwise the bench is just 2 OFs (Hicks/Maybin) and a C (Romine). Maybe Urshela sits and comes in later for defense and Encarnacion plays 1B and Stanton DHs?
 

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They can always make a change mid-series if someone gets hurt, Voit never seemed healthy after coming back and will likely have surgery when the season ends.
 

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Hicks and CC added, but Wade and Voit are the ones dropped, so NY has 13 pitchers and 12 position players. This has to mean they're seriously thinking about starting Hicks at least some games, because otherwise the bench is just 2 OFs (Hicks/Maybin) and a C (Romine). Maybe Urshela sits and comes in later for defense and Encarnacion plays 1B and Stanton DHs?
I'm starting to think that they can't trust Stanton in left at Minute Maid right now. It's too tough to play that wall and he's clearly not at his usual defensive self. Not sure how that shakes the lineup out but we knew this would be a question mark coming in. Possible that Stanton sits a game or two in Houston.
 

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Hicks gives you an extra lefty hitter against a staff with no lefties, I'm thinking more and more Gio sits, especially because if Stanton is at DH, they don't have to replace him mid-game.
 

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Hicks gives you an extra lefty hitter against a staff with no lefties, I'm thinking more and more Gio sits, especially because if Stanton is at DH, they don't have to replace him mid-game.
With EE at first? Yikes. We can't sacrifice defense in games like this. I'd be terrified of EE at first.
 

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Looks like itll be Urquidy/Peacock game 4 with Miley being left off the roster. Any fantasy owner would know that Peacock has had a very inconsistent year and the Astros have flipped him between reliever and starter.
 

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Hicks coming back sure increases Boone’s options. Agree with Jon. Gio could sit, then Boone will be able to switch to the defensive platoon for late innings, with a lead, we hope.
 

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Peacock gives up a 911 ops vs lefties. So, I suppose he is their roogy and I can't see him touching a lefty in a close game. This could be a big reason why Hicks plays. Could completely break up their strategy for how they will use Peacock.
 

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What's the Yankee lineup going to be?

LeMahieu 1B
Judge RF
Gardner CF
Encanarcion DH
Stanton LF
Torres 2B
Sanchez C
Didi SS
Urschela 3B

Late innings bring in Hicks for defense for Stanton. Maybin is a pinch runner.
I think the roster composition means Hicks is a starter, he gives them a third lefty in the lineup and improves the OF defense. There are a few ways they could go, but I will guess:

LeMahieu 3B
Judge RF
Gardner LF
Encarnacion 1B
Stanton LF
Torres 2B
Sanchez C
Didi SS
Hicks CF

This means Urshela would hit cleanup if he comes in as a defensive replacement (DJ moving to 1B), but I think that's fine.
 

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Which team is deeper?
The Yankees are definitely deeper, Voit and Ford can't even make their roster and Urshela looks like he will sit, and Happ is a much better option for game #4 than Urquidy. The Astros top 11 or 12 players are incredible, though.

I think I am too biased to see this series clearly, but gun to my head, HOU in 6.
 

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I think the roster composition means Hicks is a starter, he gives them a third lefty in the lineup and improves the OF defense. There are a few ways they could go, but I will guess:

LeMahieu 3B
Judge RF
Gardner LF
Encarnacion 1B
Stanton LF
Torres 2B
Sanchez C
Didi SS
Hicks CF

This means Urshela would hit cleanup if he comes in as a defensive replacement (DJ moving to 1B), but I think that's fine.
I would think that they would want their best infield defensive lineup possible and that would be Urshela at 3B and LeMahieu at 1B. With the short porch in left, I'd think Stanton would be OK to play left at least in Houston. Then if they have a lead they can bring Hicks in to play defense late in the game.
 

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I would think that they would want their best infield defensive lineup possible and that would be Urshela at 3B and LeMahieu at 1B. With the short porch in left, I'd think Stanton would be OK to play left at least in Houston. Then if they have a lead they can bring Hicks in to play defense late in the game.
Yeah, this is what I would have guessed this AM, but dropping both Voit and Wade off the roster in favor of an OF and a P means that NY only has five guys on the roster capable of playing infield, the four starters they've been using plus Encarnacion. This means if any of those four have to leave the game, NY can cover it positionally but they will lose the DH and they have a very thin bench to pinch-hit.

Anyway, we'll see soon enough, but I'll be surprised if Hicks isn't starting.
 

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Verlander and Cole are not going to be enough to hold off the Yankees. Greinke is going to get mashed. Urqidy is going to get mashed. Yankees will not get totally dominated by Verlander/Cole the way the Rays did, and scratching out a couple runs plus getting to the bullpen earlier will be the difference. NY in 6.
 

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Extra-inning games might kill Coup in this series. All the bullpen moves and defensive switches listed as cause of death.
Which team is deeper?
Not a chance. I believe Boone is extraordinarily dialed-in to how his roster is feeling and some of these decisions are based on the one thing stats can't show: how are they feeling this week. He's also going to use guys in what were, until this year, unconventional roles...almost all those traditions are getting smashed this year, whatever happens, I doubt we're going to wind up being critical that he was too stodgy.
 

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Lineups should be out by 5pm. Looks like both teams holding back as long as they can which, although common, shows how much they plan to analyze everything.
 

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The Astros one is out:

Springer CF
Brantley LF
Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Alvarez DH
Gurriel 1B
Correa SS
Tucker RF
Chirinos C
 

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I was wrong about Hicks, he is sitting. Same nine Yankees start, but moved around some:

LeMahieu 1B
Judge RF
Torres 2B
Encarnacíon DH
Stanton LF
Gardner CF
Sanchez C
Urshela 3B
Gregorius SS
 

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There's no need for NY to worry about lefty/righty matchups in this series, because HOU's entire staff is righthanded.
 

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Actually that is the same lineup except Gleyber and Gardner flip 3rd/6th and Didi/Urshela flip 8th/9th.
 

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This matchup reminds me of 2001 WS when Arizona had the two aces who shall remain nameless. Low-scored and well-played except for Game 6. The formula this time is similar. Beat the two other starters and steal two wins off the studs. Yanks in 5. Revenge for 2017.
 

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This matchup reminds me of 2001 WS when Arizona had the two aces who shall remain nameless. Low-scored and well-played except for Game 6. The formula this time is similar. Beat the two other starters and steal two wins off the studs. Yanks in 5. Revenge for 2017.
That ARI team really didn't have much else, though. This team had Greinke, a superb and deep lineup, one of the best team defenses in recent years and a possibly good bullpen. Not saying NY can't win, anything can happen, but that 2001 ARI team only won 92 games, this HOU team won 107.
 

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That ARI team really didn't have much else, though. This team had Greinke, a superb and deep lineup, one of the best team defenses in recent years and a possibly good bullpen. Not saying NY can't win, anything can happen, but that 2001 ARI team only won 92 games, this HOU team won 107.
All the stats from 2019 are on steroids. 2001 WS was a memorable showdown. My parallel is I’m expecting the same type of epic series as 2001.