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Another great move. I like how this off-season is shaping out all things considered. Pats needed another DT and CB as immediate starters this year and instead of going out and signing guys they got a 5th round pick this year, dropped from 205 to 219, and gave up a 3rd next year. Trading for these guys doesn't count against the free agency draft pick calculations. That 3rd they are giving up for a 5th this year is roughly a one round drop given the teams involved, a year out, AND considering how many big ticket free agents are leaving the Patriots they are slated to get maybe 2+ 3rd round compensatory picks and/or maybe a 4th/5th. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the moves. Also, been waiting for this for some time now. Brothers UNITED!
 

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Mentioned in the McCourty thread -- it's interesting how the Pats additions so far this signing season (Burkhead, Shelton, McCourty) have not included any new free agents. Two trades and a re-sign. Clearly they're looking to maximize the compensatory draft capital they should be picking up next year for the losses of Dion, Solder, Butler and Amendola.

Is there a limit on how many compensatory picks they can add?
 

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Mentioned in the McCourty thread -- it's interesting how the Pats additions so far this signing season (Burkhead, Shelton, McCourty) have not included any new free agents. Two trades and a re-sign. Clearly they're looking to maximize the compensatory draft capital they should be picking up next year for the losses of Dion, Solder, Butler and Amendola.

Is there a limit on how many compensatory picks they can add?
Four, I believe, but could be mistaken.
 

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Four, I believe, but could be mistaken.
A single team can only earn a maximum of four comp picks. If they would have earned five, the least valuable pick is lost. For example, if a team qualifies for 3, 4, 4, 5, & 6 in comp picks, they would be awarded 3, 4, 4 & 5.

In addition, 32 comp picks are granted each year (the equivalent of an 8th round). This year, the Patriots may have qualified for a second comp pick for Blount but there were 32 picks awarded at a higher value. If 32 comp picks are not awarded, any un-awarded picks are given to teams based on draft order until 32 picks have been made.
 

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Mentioned in the McCourty thread -- it's interesting how the Pats additions so far this signing season (Burkhead, Shelton, McCourty) have not included any new free agents. Two trades and a re-sign. Clearly they're looking to maximize the compensatory draft capital they should be picking up next year for the losses of Dion, Solder, Butler and Amendola.

Is there a limit on how many compensatory picks they can add?
This could be over thinking it. They also just may not have found their desired mix of need, value and fit among their free agents and others. This is hardly the first year that theyve been quiet for the first few days of free agency. I’m sure comp picks are seen as a positive but id suspect it’s the more straightforward reason before assuming they are playing 3D chess
 

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More on the Cousins fully guaranteed contract. It also includes no-trade and no-use-of-transition-tag provisions.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/15/kirk-cousins-deal-has-a-no-trade-no-transition-tag-clause/

Nice to see players use leverage effectively.
The deal only being three years might be the best part for Cousins. Getting three years guaranteed isn't really that impressive; most QB contracts that are five years or whatever are essentially uncuttable in the first three. But if Cousins plays well he sets himself up for another big payday in three years, instead of being locked in to whatever he signed now.

Eric Ebron is headed to Carolina tomorrow then Colts on Sunday but also may be visiting Foxboro per Adam Schefter.
This surprises me. Ebron's got some positive qualities but his hands are not of them and usually that's a no-no for Belichick.
 

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This surprises me. Ebron's got some positive qualities but his hands are not of them and usually that's a no-no for Belichick.
He's still very young and still has the vast potential that he had coming out of UNC. Maybe a change of scenery will do him some good. I'm not sure of his football intelligence level and that's key as we saw with Allen this year.
 

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Fair, but they stopped throwing to Allen for that reason. They stop throwing to Ebron, he's doing zilch because he's not a blocker.
I didn’t think they got Allen to throw much to him. Bill value blocking at the TE position pretty highly. Allen was never a great catcher of the football.
 

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Interesting on Hill. He ran for 1000 his rookie season. He's young, can catch the ball some and only played 7 games last year so might be fresh and ready to go.
 

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Why is this failed physical any different than any other?
Team doctors can find “something” in almost any physical for a football player. Their bodies are pretty ravaged after a few years in the league. Most of the time, these physicals are basically mere formalities unless the player had a recent significant injury.

The timing of the Crabtree release, the Ravens’ subsequent interest in him, and Grant’s failed physical just seems real fishy to me. Still possible that there was a legitimate issue with the ankle but I remain skeptical.

There’s enough plausible deniability even if the Ravens did what some suspect but it’s a raw deal for Grant if they did. Will be interesting to see what he ultimately signs for.
 

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My guess is he’ll go back to the Redskins with a 50% haircut. And you’re right, there is no recourse
 

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Big $. Also this helps the Pats with regard to comp picks. They can now sign someone and not fear losing one of the 2019 picks, I believe.
 

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Big $. Also this helps the Pats with regard to comp picks. They can now sign someone and not fear losing one of the 2019 picks, I believe.
Really good ST guy but that missed tackle on Agholor on 3rd down after the momentum was switching to us will bother me forever.
 

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Really good ST guy but that missed tackle on Agholor on 3rd down after the momentum was switching to us will bother me forever.
I still have the same thoughts! What's aggravating is I think he is a good tackler, but was trying to force a fumble instead of playing the situation...
 

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Really good ST guy but that missed tackle on Agholor on 3rd down after the momentum was switching to us will bother me forever.
Yep, I said at the time that was the play where the game was lost. If the D got off the field on that drive the Patriots take the lead the ensuing drive and everything changes.
 

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Matthew Slater hasn't signed yet, right? Does the Bademosi deal cost the Pats a few extra bucks?
Not sure how much it matters. Bademosi can at least play some CB, not just special teams, whereas if you see Slater on the field before 4th down it’s usually not good. I think that makes Bademosi more valuable.
 

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A second former Washington player fails his physical. Bashaud Breeland signing with the Panthers canceled.