Formula 1: General Discussion and 2020 Preview

SocrManiac

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What Hulk has done so far is remarkable. This is a crazy lateral force track, too. It’s hard to imagine he’s at full fitness without the motivation of a guaranteed seat, but he’s made a case he belongs in F1. I would have given a lot to see him out-qualify Stroll. I’ll settle for finishing ahead tomorrow.
 

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Seb hasn’t been the same since that incident with Hamilton last season (Baku?). He doesn’t seem like he’s focused mentally and makes lots of silly errors.
 
Imagine Tiger Woods in 2000 playing with the same clubs he was using that year, while all of his competitors had to use persimmon woods. That's what Lewis Hamilton feels like right now - it's so hard to tell just how much of his excellence is down to his skills and how much is down to his car. He won't win every week, just as Tiger wouldn't have won *every* week under those conditions...but it'd be so much more fun seeing him in a fair fight.
 

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I think all you can say is that evidence suggests he is better than Bottas (since you can do a direct comparison), but yes, the Mercedes is so much better than every other car this year that it isn't really a fair fight.
 

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I am also intrigued by the narrativethat Mercedes buckled down over the winter after Ferrari showed much better power last year.

If it then turned out that Ferrari’s performance was due to something illegal that they had to stop doing, Mercedes then has a car even more dominant than before.

As someone who came in at the beginning of this Merc era, I have come to enjoy the mid-pack racing as where the action is, and it’s as good as ever now, as most of the teams could trade the 4-10 spots at a given track.
It does seem, 3 races in however, that the Renault is at the back of even this group. With Ferrari, McLaren and Racing point ahead.
 

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Agree with both of those points - especially that the midpack racing is quite interesting this year, I do wish Renault (and Danny Ric) could show more though.

Lewis really seems to know how to take full advantage of the machinery he's given, to his credit.
 

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And Verstappen would have won if he didn't pit trying to get the fastest lap.
Was it solely to try for fastest lap or did they suspect the same type of tire issues and decided to play it safe? Didn't see all the post-race stuff but I thought I heard Verstappen state that he had reported in on potential tire issues 10 laps prior to coming in. (As was brought up during the race, was surprised that Mercedes didn't play it safe with a stop after Bottas' issues as they certainly had a sufficient buffer to do so.)

Good day for Albon considering all the early issues.
 
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Teams seem unified in stating that bits of carbon fiber (Kimi’s wing) were contributing to severe tire damage.

As a professional amateur analyst watching hungover on TV, I call bullshit. We saw tires delaminating, not punctures.

I also think Grosjean needed a black flag. Both Haas drivers are dangerous to themselves and everybody around them. I’m not buying Albon’s penalty, either. It was a stupid move, especially that early, but Magnussen was just regaining control from the previous curb.
 

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Teams seem unified in stating that bits of carbon fiber (Kimi’s wing) were contributing to severe tire damage.

As a professional amateur analyst watching hungover on TV, I call bullshit. We saw tires delaminating, not punctures.

I also think Grosjean needed a black flag. Both Haas drivers are dangerous to themselves and everybody around them. I’m not buying Albon’s penalty, either. It was a stupid move, especially that early, but Magnussen was just regaining control from the previous curb.
I saw a statement from Red Bull’s Christian Horner to that effect, but A) I don’t really believe it, and 2) I don’t think Red Bull has anything to apologize for.

They had lucked into 2nd when Bottas’ tire blew and then made the free pit for the fastest lap. I don’t see any reason to second guess that.

Mid-field was great, with Stroll, Ocon, Sainz, Ricciardo, Norris. Wish we had seen how Ricciardo took Norris, as Lando’s pass easier in the race was sweet.
Nice to see good racing in that whole group without anyone forcing anyone else off.

Grosjean on the other hand, woof. I think he’s out at the sport after this year. Just barely competitive in all aspects of the race, and has really become the premier whiner on the track last 2-3 years.
 
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