As much as I love to shit on Mazepin, that wasn’t his fault.Less than 1 lap. Poor Williams.
As much as I love to shit on Mazepin, that wasn’t his fault.Less than 1 lap. Poor Williams.
Does it? I haven't called them right all race.The more I see, the more I think Bottas caused that.
It's an odd rule, but they let the lapped cars onto the lead lap during a couple races last year, too. Kept Russell from a top 10 one race.Hamilton did brightly with what was given to him, but fundamentally there’s a problem with the system as it stands. Everybody he passed had lapped him. He was given a reprieve. His mistake should have had a devastating consequence and instead it had literally none. It’s like spotting Michael Jordan 50 points to start the second half because he wasn’t there for the first.
It’s the standard rule. It just needs to be done differently.It's an odd rule, but they let the lapped cars onto the lead lap during a couple races last year, too. Kept Russell from a top 10 one race.
I've watched this a few times. Man I don't know who is to blame but I'm just glad neither was hurt. That was a true high speed incident.It’s hard to call I ntil we see a good replay. Bottas clearly moved right. Was it justifiable that he was keeping the line, or did he jink Russell’s pass?
I was going to make a joke about a red flag team orders but felt it would be in bad taste.Ironically a crash between 2 Mercedes drivers actually helped out a Mercedes driver.
self-quoting because uh, dry quali + wet race was good, no?Note: the qualifying on Saturday is televised, and is sometimes more interesting than the race because of the knock-out/best-lap format. If there is consistent weather between quali and race, sometimes the race can be boring. (Or said another way, wet quali + dry race, or even better, dry quali + wet race usually gives the most interesting race to watch - the cars have to keep the same setup for both days and so compromises have to be made in the setup when the conditions will be different between the two days.) I'd say you should try to watch the qualifying tomorrow, since there are so many unknowns.
You got it right. Under red flag, or safety car (not virtual safety car) the gaps will get compressed back to <1 sec. In red flag, they can (will?) unlap cars as well. Say cars 1-7 are on the first lap and 8-17 are down a lap, they brought 8-17 to the front in the pits to unlap so they would be directly behind 1-7 on the restart. I'm honestly not sure if there is leeway for the race control / stewards in doing this or if it's automatic with a red flag. (Or how they handle things like the Haas being 2 laps down, they didn't get double-unlapped, for example.)So, I didn't quite understand everything around the stop and restart yesterday. I understand stopping the race due to a major accident and necessary cleanup, but the restart confused me. I didn't quite pick up the whole unlapping thing that let Hamilton get back into the mix after his fuck up seemed to take him out of the race. Also, in instances like this, it seems like the gaps established through the first portion of the race are erased? They line up in the order they were running when the red flag came down and then off they go just like starting the race over? Is that correct?
(apologies for the newb questions)
Unser was just a head of my time, but I remember my Grandfather telling me about the 1981 Indy 500 and ending the story with something along the lines of how the result was stripped and re-awarded and it left such a sour taste in his mouth that we didn't want me to get into the crooked CART teams/management so instead we watched F1. RIPNot sure if this is the right place for this, but Bobby Unser has passed.
One of my favorites during the glory days of Indy Car racing.
The table alignment is terrible, for sure.It's about as self-explanatory as the first sentence of your last post is. The subtitle makes no sense - "% off" should mean exactly that, the percentage off of the fastest overall lap, and therefore the numbers which read "100.0" in the chart should actually read "0.0", shouldn't they? (If the table had started there, I might feel like I had a better chance of interpreting it.) Also, lumping all times together "during weekend" [sic] means that qualifying and race times are being compared together, right? Feels like apples and oranges - and seems a bit of a data flaw. Only comparing the best single lap times limits the sample size of laps from a race weekend - any lap in which a car is held up by traffic on the course for whatever reason is automatically discounted, as are laps in which tire and fuel tank usage aren't optimal for gunning for your fastest lap. And does it really show the relative pace of each car, or does it show a combination of car pace and driver skill for each team?
Basically, that table is a masterclass in how not to present information in a compelling and relatable way. (And I haven't even started with the design of the graphic itself, with all of the numbers misaligned in each column serving as an impediment to rapidly processing the information.)
To me, yes the metric is imperfect, but how can it not be when you cannot truly separate car performance from driver performance? So, as you say, this metric shows the best case scenario of what each team's car+driver+ track can achieve.The table alignment is terrible, for sure.
But this metric is actually normal-ish for F1 - there is a "107% rule" that is sometimes talked about. If you can't set a time less than 107% of Q1's fastest time you in theory don't qualify for the race. Waivers are often, but not always, given. I remember it being more of an issue back in the beginning of my F1 fan-dom, 1999ish era (before the Q1/Q2/Q3 format it was just a mad dash at the end of the quali period and Minardi often got screwed by track evolution and their generally not-great cars).
The discounting of non-fast laps doesn't bother me, this is trying to show the max-potential of the car, which is different than race pace anyway - I doubt any of the truly fastest laps of a weekend are set at any time other than Q2 or Q3 because of fuel loads and tire deg. But, to your point, it's actually showing the combination of car+driver+*track* for each team. Not every car will do well on every track, especially if they bias toward high-speed or low-speed. It's actually what's amazing about M-B's dominance on almost all types of tracks in this era.
Thinking about it more, I agree that it's weird to offset all the data by 100 (basically compressing the dynamic range in the values, or forcing the reader to mentally renormalize the data a second time), but at least there is some domain-level basis for thinking in this way with the 107% rule. I feel like a lot of investing charts are done this way too ("price of commodity X on date Y = 100, graph shows normalized value")?
Thanks, that killed a couple hours. Really good stuff!What I stumbled across however was an epic post by an F1 blog using a model that ranked the top 100 F1 drivers of all time which completely sidetracked me. The model tries to disentangle the car out of the equation mostly by measuring how each driver fared vs people who drove the same car and adjusting for age and experience; i.e. if you are in your first couple of seasons, the model expects lower performance and if the driver you are compared to is older than 35, your relative performance is discounted since the fellow driver is past his peak. The author makes the argument which should be true in every sport but is probably is even more true in an expensive sport like F1, that the quality of drivers has massively improved since the 50s since drivers now start training far earlier in a far more disciplined way.
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https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/the-f1metrics-top-100/
Mazepin crashes out from 20th. If he’s in 5th that means 15 drivers are already out, it’s probably snowing, and the disappointment is more like realizing an expectation.Off topic but I was doing a 1/2 length Hanoi race on F1 2021 and my game crashed on lap 28 when I was battling for 5th. I wonder if that disappointment is similar to what Guenther feels each time Mazespin messes up.
Also, I am buying the fuck out of a Monaco Gulf livery McLaren with a 3 on it.
Only a couple of hours? I copy/pasted the post on word and it's 38,000 words! Firefox says it's a breazy 210-270 min read!Thanks, that killed a couple hours. Really good stuff!