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Ale Xander

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Hopefully 45 hours is enough to coach the players to not pass to Hicks

If Joel's ankles don't get better, they need more White and Woods on Monday
 

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Hopefully 45 hours is enough to coach the players to not pass to Hicks

If Joel's ankles don't get better, they need more White and Woods on Monday
Hicks is a mess. Never seen a senior fall apart like this at end of year. What can Roy do though? No other options.

Have to ride those ankles 1 more game. White/Woods aren't the answer as bad as Berry was.
 

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While UNC certainly isn't hated like Duke, they are reviled the same as Kentucky and Kansas. I'd imagine most of the country will be rooting for Gonzaga.
 

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Nobody other than Carolina alums/fans are going to root for us or pick us, and that's fine.
 

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I think a few more people in the country may root for UNC just because of the tough L they took last year.
Literally no one outside of the UNC area cares about the tough loss they took last year.
 

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On the other hand, lots of folks hate Gonzaga, think they are overrated and are sick of them. Though those folks generally root against them in the early rounds.

Anyway, expecting a great game.
 

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The first one too -- that forearm to the back was practically an MMA move.

As I said, smart play by Carolina to know there was no way a foul would be called there.
Can I have some of your drugs? They are clearly amazing in order to see a mystery forearm in the back on the tap out. That did not even come close to occurring. Get a grip.
 

Ale Xander

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A lot of people are underestimating how national the UNC fan base is- it's the most national fan base of college basketball, people are underestimating or forgetting the reach of some guy who wore #23, and people are underestimating the amount of people like Summer who for some reason I've not been able to understand, don't like Gonzaga.
 

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Can I have some of your drugs? They are clearly amazing in order to see a mystery forearm in the back on the tap out. That did not even come close to occurring. Get a grip.
He pushed off, but well within the bounds of what's going to be let go in the final minute of the game. Which is basically what I said. The shove looked a lot more subtle on the replay from different angles, but we saw less than that called on numerous occasions throughout the tournament -- but not in the last 10 seconds of a close game.

The second was just a flat-out failure to box out; yes, there was some contact, but the Oregon player went straight for the ball without first taking care of his man.

I didn't have a rooting interest in the game, BTW.
 

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He pushed off, but well within the bounds of what's going to be let go in the final minute of the game. Which is basically what I said. The shove looked a lot more subtle on the replay from different angles, but we saw less than that called on numerous occasions throughout the tournament -- but not in the last 10 seconds of a close game.

The second was just a flat-out failure to box out; yes, there was some contact, but the Oregon player went straight for the ball without first taking care of his man.

I didn't have a rooting interest in the game, BTW.
I've watched the replay several times, there is absolutely no push. Pinson isn't even making contact with bell when he taps the ball out.

We've gone from MMA style forearm to a shove within the bounds of the rules. I'll be honest I still don't see it.

I could understand someone questioning the last rebound, but that still was just a clean, physical basketball rebound.
 
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The last rebound there was a push. It wasn't a huge push, and the biggest problem was the Oregon player didn't box out which is inexcusable in any case but inexcusable-squared given what just happened. I don't think it was so much incredibly egregious that a foul wasn't called -there were a lot of much worse bad calls both ways in that game, and in general in the tournament we've seen a lot of close games which featured horrible calls - as I re-watch the play it's more that a foul very easily could have been called and the game flips right there. So it was a dangerous and probably dumb move even though it worked out for UNC. But really I do agree, it's on Oregon to get the rebound.
 

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So the title game doesn't tip off until 9:20 now? I can't imagine many casual fans stay up to watch. Why doesn't the NCAA move to a Friday-Sunday Final Four with the title game around 7pm on Sunday? Wouldn't that draw bigger ratings even if Friday did worse than Saturday?
 

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It's still 7000+ students, about 5k undergrads. Not exactly a small Catholic school.
That growth is in the last 20 years though and really the last 10 once the fund raising hit high gear and the school could afford to build new facilities and new places for students to live. When I was a Freshman at Gonzaga the total undergraduate population was ~2200 students + another 500 graduate/law students.

http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/119205/how-the-basketball-program-helped-gonzaga-university-flourish
 

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So the title game doesn't tip off until 9:20 now? I can't imagine many casual fans stay up to watch. Why doesn't the NCAA move to a Friday-Sunday Final Four with the title game around 7pm on Sunday? Wouldn't that draw bigger ratings even if Friday did worse than Saturday?
It's been 9:20pm for a while now. And the NCAA football game kicks on Monday not much earlier. They want the entire country for the ratings but it kills it on the east coast.
 

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tim4: I expect you to watch every second tonight. Take a night off watching game tape of highly touted middle schoolers!
 

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Slept like shit last night ... Will be watching this one in private tonight since I'm going to be an absolute wreck
 

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Just heard on a radio interview that there are 70 former Gonzaga basketball players in attendance who played at GU since the original run in 1999. Also heard that Few flew everyone of his old assistant coaches and even Dan Monson in on his dime for the game tonight
 

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Just heard on a radio interview that there are 70 former Gonzaga basketball players in attendance who played at GU since the original run in 1999. Also heard that Few flew everyone of his old assistant coaches and even Dan Monson in on his dime for the game tonight
That's cool. Played against Dan Dickau in high school. Assuming he'll be there of course. I've always had a soft spot for UNC, but I'd be great to see Gonzaga win this.
 

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That's cool. Played against Dan Dickau in high school. Assuming he'll be there of course. I've always had a soft spot for UNC, but I'd be great to see Gonzaga win this.
Dickau is there if the pictures I'm seeing posted on FB are accurate.
 

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Never, in my wildest dreams, would I have imagined that the school I chose to attend 20 years ago would be playing for an NCAA Basketball Championship tonight. Never would I have thought that my school would have name recognition across the world. Gonzaga gave me more than I could have ever imagined and tonight I cant help but be thankful that the rest of the world has gotten to know the Gonzaga that made me who I am today. #UnitedWeZag
 

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I have to say I'm happy it's two excellent teams, both without one-and-dones, playing for the title. I'm hoping the officiating stays out of the way