Final Four and National Championship Thread

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I already said it was a correct call. However it was subtle contact, certainly not a hard foul, no arm contact and looks awfully worse in slow motion than live. It affects the shot and It’s actually an excellent call, which makes it worse given the timing and situation
Yeah you said it was the correct call, but you also said, "Can’t make the foul call there after not making the obvious DD call. Can’t do it. Fans know it. Everyone knows it. Of course it was a foul...still can’t call it in that situation, not after swallowing the whistle 2 seconds before." That's all I was reacting to.

Meanwhile, this game 2....intense defense. Big time.
 

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Part of the reason these teams can't score is because nobody has post players anymore. The way to beat this tough perimeter defense is to isolate a guy on the block and let him take a guy down low. But neither team - and this is the trend of basketball these days - has anyone that can score in the post. All these offenses are outside-in, and nobody runs anything through the low post anymore.
 

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Texas Tech-Michigan was low scoring at the half too. Tech's defense wore them out in the second half and won by double digits.
 

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It was a double drible, it was also a foul on #2 on Auburn before the Double dribble as he had a handful of jersey and was actively trying to foul the UVA player before the double dribble occurred.
thank you. clear foul first. not an easy thing thi pick up like especially when you think they're going to foul intentionally
 

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maybe i overlooked it but are y'all not seeing the ref running like he's on hot coals with bunions
Haha, oh no you're going to have me watching the refs instead of the game now. He just barely got into position to call that foul too, 2 seconds before his body was completely facing the baseline.
 

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Stupid TT. MSU has a guy who practically can't move and TT didn't even look at their teammate that the gimpy guy was guarding. How do you not just get the ball to that player and isolate him? Easy play and nobody picked up on that.
 

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Stupid TT. MSU has a guy who practically can't move and TT didn't even look at their teammate that the gimpy guy was guarding. How do you not just get the ball to that player and isolate him? Easy play and nobody picked up on that.
No kidding. Get it to Moretti in that case. Imagine Brady with a limping DB out there. He’d go at him until they took him out of the game.
 

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Auburn got hosed. Missed double dribble and then a weak ass foul.
But if youre going fully technical then call the dd.

Props to Guy crushing the 3 FT, but wow.

Also holy shit that Sid Hartman is 99?? Dude looks 70 something
 

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Auburn got hosed. Missed double dribble and then a weak ass foul.
But if youre going fully technical then call the dd.

Props to Guy crushing the 3 FT, but wow.

Also holy shit that Sid Hartman is 99?? Dude looks 70 something
you're crazy the missed foul was on Jerome that before the double dribble. clearly a foul on guy. they swallowed the whistle all night but that was a foul
 

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No kidding. Get it to Moretti in that case. Imagine Brady with a limping DB out there. He’d go at him until they took him out of the game.
I never will understand things like this. When UConn beat Kentucky in 2014, Kentucky had two NBA-caliber guards both 6'6", while UConn had Napier and Boatright. Those were two good guards but neither was even 6'0" tall. But man they were PESKY on-ball perimeter defenders.

So what did Kentucky do? They kept their tall guards on the perimeter and the UConn guards made their lives miserable. How about clearing out and posting up one of the 6'6" guys on 5'9" Boatright? That was available all night and not one time did Kentucky go there.
 

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The funny thing is LeBron did the exact same thing in a big moment in the ECF against the Celtics last year with a double dribble and it was never even shown again on replay. It was at a huge moment at the end of one of the games, too.

Same thing, dribbled off his foot in back court, picked it up and just kept dribbling.
Definitely a missed call, but didn't hurt the Celtics.

 

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I feel terrible for the Auburn guy there, but that was a foul. They've had that rule all season long. Shooter has to be able to land and the defender clearly took it away.
Scrolling through thread and this sums up the final sequence perfectly.....but this play never should have even occured. That is an easy, easy call against Auburn.....the official had a couple different options to choose from. You had Doughty lunging airborne creating obvious contact into the shooters body AND you had him also taking away the shooters landing spot. Pick your poison but he got him both ways.

The no-whistle on the double dribble was the call that was missed and not getting nearly as much attention then the fouling of the shooter. This was clearly the wrong call just as the fouling of the shooter was the correct one. The ball should have been Auburn's side out with most likely a quick foul that sends Auburn to the line resulting in a completely different final several seconds to regulation.
 

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Scrolling through thread and this sums up the final sequence perfectly.....but this play never should have even occured. That is an easy, easy call against Auburn.....the official had a couple different options to choose from. You had Doughty lunging airborne creating obvious contact into the shooters body AND you had him also taking away the shooters landing spot. Pick your poison but he got him both ways.

The no-whistle on the double dribble was the call that was missed and not getting nearly as much attention then the fouling of the shooter. This was clearly the wrong call just as the fouling of the shooter was the correct one. The ball should have been Auburn's side out with most likely a quick foul that sends Auburn to the line resulting in a completely different final several seconds to regulation.
Or even a foul call on Auburn prior to the double dribble changes things dramatically. OT at worst.