They are trying to goat Wyc into lashing into the team and he's not taking the bait. Also tried to get him to make a definitive call on Kyrie and other personnel issues and didn't bite there either.
Bill Simmons made his career saying that the NBA Draft is/was rigged.I caught that part of the interview too. Pretty funny. I'm not sure I agree with his 4% assessment, but I don't think as many people think it is rigged as Tony thinks do.
Ewing!!Bill Simmons made his career saying that the NBA Draft is/was rigged.
I thought made his career off of 90210, Rocky, Saved By the Bell and Karate Kid references?Bill Simmons made his career saying that the NBA Draft is/was rigged.
Maz's "the lottery was rigged!" take is pure king troll bullshit. If it were ever to get out that the league set up the draft by what they felt was the "best story" for the league as a whole and not random balls being drawn they would get sued to kingdom come from various team owners, among others. If you're the NY Knicks and worth a ton of money yet struggling and the NBA cooks your #1 draft pick from you...just because. You. are. pissed. Not to mention the third party firm who oversees the lottery sees their reputation destroyed.First time I tuned in to F&M in a long time because Wyc is on now. Wyc calls Mazz a troll for clickbait and wanting to go viral over his "rigged lottery" take.
I think the difference being that Mazz declared that it was fixed based on selective interpretations of events; Murray just wants it to be rigged because of all the drama.Another big problem with their theory (Jim Murray was perhaps more adamant about it being rigged) is that if you spend 2 seconds thinking about any lottery team, you could come up with some conspiracy theory for them winning the lottery.
Maz's "the lottery was rigged!" take is pure king troll bullshit. If it were ever to get out that the league set up the draft by what they felt was the "best story" for the league as a whole and not random balls being drawn they would get sued to kingdom come from various team owners, among others. If you're the NY Knicks and worth a ton of money yet struggling and the NBA cooks your #1 draft pick from you...just because. You. are. pissed. Not to mention the third party firm who oversees the lottery sees their reputation destroyed.
There's way too much to lose just because you want to do a friendly for the Pelicans.
I mean, even Felger was like you can't be serious with this take, it's stupid. Yet Tony doubled down on it, and was rightfully called out on it without being prompted by Wyc.
He was saying this last week after the walk-off hit. Tony wants his rookies to be confident but not arrogant, to sit under the learning tree and not act like they know anything. With all due respect to the dead, this is a Cafardo-esque take. "Be good but don't acknowledge you're good. You haven't earned that yet." Just creating an issue where there isn't one. I think Mazz thinks the PED thing is going to happen again and he wants to be the one to say, "See, I told you something was up! Just shows how much this kid actually knows!" I guess when the team is starting to shake off the rust and compete, you can't keep harping on the same issues and need to talk about something else to generate calls.Earlier in the day, Mazz was complaining why all the positive articles on Michael Chavis. Why aren't more people talking about his PED suspension? He said the Red Sox were trying to get rid of him at the trade deadline because they know something. On the way home during the baseball show he said Chavis should shut up, he acts like he has all the answers.
Mazz barely deserves to be mentioned in this thread he sure as hell shouldn't have his own.Should The Baseball Reporters get its own thread? Like "Tony Mazz Unyou'reabsolutelyrightMike'd: The Baseball Reporters?"
You're absolutely right, Dick!I have a “thing” about Mazz: he lazily relies on sound bites, tweets, and body language to form his opinions. He’s a colossal moron.
And the thing about Mazz' things is that he always couches it with an, "I don't know Mike but ..." like this is some sort of player tick that only he picked up and isn't quite sure what to do with. He's passive in every way, shape and form. At least Felger owns it.Mazz had a “thing” about JD Martinez: Stanton’s much better.
Mazz has a “thing” about Mookie: not enough of a leader, doesn’t want to be here.
Mazz has a “thing” about Benintendi: he acts like he’s “too cool for school” despite several other media members stating AB is a good kid who’s a little on the reserved side.
Mazz has a “thing” about Chavis: he thinks he has all the answers.
I’m not sure he has ever spent any time around any of these guys.
I have a “thing” about Mazz: he lazily relies on sound bites, tweets, and body language to form his opinions. He’s a colossal moron.
This. Mazz is dope with a Napolean complex. Unlistenable.Mazz had a “thing” about JD Martinez: Stanton’s much better.
Mazz has a “thing” about Mookie: not enough of a leader, doesn’t want to be here.
Mazz has a “thing” about Benintendi: he acts like he’s “too cool for school” despite several other media members stating AB is a good kid who’s a little on the reserved side.
Mazz has a “thing” about Chavis: he thinks he has all the answers.
I’m not sure he has ever spent any time around any of these guys.
I have a “thing” about Mazz: he lazily relies on sound bites, tweets, and body language to form his opinions. He’s a colossal moron.
Murray is the absolute worst, a joke he's on the radio.it shouild be fegler and murray and move mazz to weekends or whenever fegler murray need a day off
its a fair point but he is a better fighter on fegler opintons he will disagree with feglerMurray is the absolute worst, a joke he's on the radio.
It's amazing to me that people are so proud of their ignorance. Like Tony Mazz wears his stupidity on his shirt like a gigantic neon sign every day and then expects people to take him seriously as "an expert".Love that Mazz openly admits to having "never heard of Ryan Weber before today."
1. You host a popular Boston sports talk radio show.
2, Your job is to follow the Red Sox. Checking the teams daily transactions is something I did in 2nd grade as others here certainly have as well.
3. Even if you missed his callup from Pawtucket.....Weber has had 3 prior outings for Boston including 3-innings and 63-pitches vs Houston last week and a 4-inning/55-pitch outing two weeks ago vs Baltimore.
I agree 100%. I mean, it's not Red Sox 101, but it's part of the Red Sox 200-level course syllabus. Mazz should have known this off the top of his and probably should have know the name of the pitcher that plunked Williams.I get it that Sox fans might have too much time of their hands etc. but how the fuck does a baseball writer with lots of years in and presumably a handle on team history and and handle on arguably the best hitter in the history of the game, not know that?
I didn't hear the exchange regarding Weber, but if it was anything like the many other times he hasn't know a player it wasn't a celebration of his ignorance. It was an opportunity to declare the player a nobody because he hadn't heard of him and to call fans stupid for paying attention to such a loser player. Two things that tough guy Mazz can't resist doing at every opportunity. In other words, to quote Mazz, "it was a total toolbag move".It's amazing to me that people are so proud of their ignorance. Like Tony Mazz wears his stupidity on his shirt like a gigantic neon sign every day and then expects people to take him seriously as "an expert".
What's the deal here? If you're an expert on Boston sports, your should probably know--or at least be aware--of who Ryan Weber is. If you're not an expert, and that's okay, then play the "every man" role. You can't do both.
I agree with every word of this except the final sentence. Despite all of Mazz’s negative the fact remains that they have done a tremendous job branding their show and crush ratings.....which aside from HR issues is all the network cares about. I look in the mirror and recognize how terribly prepared/knowledgeable he or they are each day......yet when I’m driving during that window I have them on.I agree 100%. I mean, it's not Red Sox 101, but it's part of the Red Sox 200-level course syllabus. Mazz should have known this off the top of his and probably should have know the name of the pitcher that plunked Williams.
Why have him on the show if he's not the baseball expert? He has limited knowledge of the Pats, B's, Celts and sports outside of Boston. He can't stand soccer, college sports, NASCAR and doesn't have much interest in golf or tennis. And he's not funny. HIs deal is that he covered the Red Sox for ~20 years, so he should be able to speak intelligently or with some degree of expertise on baseball. Shit, he's the host of the Baseball Hour (or whatever it's called) every night for the entire season.
He really shouldn't get tripped up on not knowing who Ryan Weber is or whether Williams got hit in the elbow prior to the 1946 World Series. I get that everyone has a bad day, but Mazz is stealing money from 98.5.
I don’t think that Mazz is the reason why the Felger and Mazz show is number one. Like him or not, Felger is that show’s engine and you could stick him with Fred Smerlas and have the number one show in Boston. And that’s a testament to Felger being prepared and having a strong POV.I agree with every word of this except the final sentence. Despite all of Mazz’s negative the fact remains that they have done a tremendous job branding their show and crush ratings.....which aside from HR issues is all the network cares about. I look in the mirror and recognize how terribly prepared/knowledgeable he or they are each day......yet when I’m driving during that window I have them on.
One thing missing in your history is that Felger took the job at WEEI.com after he had a show at 890 ESPN for a few years before the station shut down. Pretty sure he worked at WEEI more or less as a stop gap until another station took a shot at doing sports talk, which I think was all of a year or so. Maybe he saw it as a way to be the heir apparent to Ordway, but can't really blame him for not wanting to hang around just in case.Oddly, Smerlas birthed Felger and Mazz, along with Ordway and DeOsse.
Time flies, but if you go back far enough you’ll find Felger the blogger on WEEI.com. This was a step down from his 10-year gig as the Herald’s beat writer for the Patriots. Mazz had Felger in stature. Neither were anywhere in radio except as stand-in contrarians with Ordway on ‘EEI, when Glenn, Smerlas and DeOsse beat to a bloody pulp anyone who criticized the Pats during the Dynasty Part I.
People tired of it, Ordway got complacent and lazy, vacationing many months a year, Felger and Mazz bolted, and the rest is history.
Things are as unsatisfactory now as they were then, but in a quite different way.
Felger and Mazz were voices of reason at EEI, quite good. And don’t blame them a bit for eventually shedding their roles as Fox News’ house liberals — or MSNBC’s house conservative: tokens to demonstrate that not everyone on The Big Show was Neanderthal.One thing missing in your history is that Felger took the job at WEEI.com after he had a show at 890 ESPN for a few years before the station shut down. Pretty sure he worked at WEEI more or less as a stop gap until another station took a shot at doing sports talk, which I think was all of a year or so. Maybe he saw it as a way to be the heir apparent to Ordway, but can't really blame him for not wanting to hang around just in case.
He’s a starfucker at heart.I was on my way to urgent care a few minutes ago (I cut my finger [emoji80]) so I had the radio on to listen to the Baseball Reporters. Mazz was on and he was bitching about DD’s lack of success drafting, which I don’t think is unreasonable.
But then he veered off into crazy town, asking, “What was the last superstar the Red Sox drafted?” He went through a litany of 70s and 80s Sox: Rice, Lynn, Clemens, Ojeda, Mo, Tudor, Hurst, John Valentin before saying, “the last superstar was Nomar. That’s it!” He asked the coolest guy in any room, Jim Murray and he agreed, Nomar was the last superstar the Red Sox drafted.
That’s it.
Not Lester or Ellsbury or Pedroia or Papelbon or Rizzo or Buchholz or Bogaerts or JBJ or Benintendi or Devers or Mookie fucking Betts. That’s it. Nomar.
Every pick has been a miss since 1994.
Never mind that the outfield is home grown, three quarters of the infield is home grown, including the catcher. And if you’re going to consider Valentin and Bob Ojeda as superstars, I’ll take Buchholz and Devers.
I get brain cramps happen. Mazz is human but I mean Betts just won the MVP last year for a team that was incredible. That’s pretty dumb. And Murray is even dumber for not bringing something to the table and correcting his boss.
Jesus, this station sucks.
I guess it depends on your definition of superstar. Using his example of Nomar, who was a superstar from the moment he debuted right up through his trade to the Cubs and even a little bit longer, he may have been the last superstar drafted ONLY because the others either flamed out at a faster pace or haven't yet reached whatever his threshold for superstardom (which is obviously arbitrary) is. Nomar is a 6-time All-Star (5 with Boston), won Silver Slugger and ROY in his first season, and was the first to achieve back-to-back AL Batting Titles as a RHH since Joe DiMaggio. He's a lifetime .313 hitter and once flirted with hitting .400 on the season (.372 in 2000). While injuries curtailed his later years, he was a superstar for the first 5 or so seasons before getting hit on the wrist and still really good for awhile after that. If that's the criteria for a superstar position player, I'm not sure how many of the players you mentioned would qualify.I was on my way to urgent care a few minutes ago (I cut my finger [emoji80]) so I had the radio on to listen to the Baseball Reporters. Mazz was on and he was bitching about DD’s lack of success drafting, which I don’t think is unreasonable.
But then he veered off into crazy town, asking, “What was the last superstar the Red Sox drafted?” He went through a litany of 70s and 80s Sox: Rice, Lynn, Clemens, Ojeda, Mo, Tudor, Hurst, John Valentin before saying, “the last superstar was Nomar. That’s it!” He asked the coolest guy in any room, Jim Murray and he agreed, Nomar was the last superstar the Red Sox drafted.
That’s it.
Not Lester or Ellsbury or Pedroia or Papelbon or Rizzo or Buchholz or Bogaerts or JBJ or Benintendi or Devers or Mookie fucking Betts. That’s it. Nomar.
Every pick has been a miss since 1994.
Never mind that the outfield is home grown, three quarters of the infield is home grown, including the catcher. And if you’re going to consider Valentin and Bob Ojeda as superstars, I’ll take Buchholz and Devers.
I get brain cramps happen. Mazz is human but I mean Betts just won the MVP last year for a team that was incredible. That’s pretty dumb. And Murray is even dumber for not bringing something to the table and correcting his boss.
Jesus, this station sucks.
That's the thing, on one hand he's talking about guys like Nomar and Clemens and Jim Rice. On the other hand he's talking about John Valentin, Bruce HurJohn Tudor and Bob Ojeda.I guess it depends on your definition of superstar.