Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time

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RedOctober3829 said:
Simms: "Andrew Luck doesn't have the luxury of having a Jonas Gray...."
And people in BBTL wondered why I thought it was stupid to even discuss what this clown has to say.
 

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I straight-up can't listen to this show, even for a few minutes in the car. The constant trolling is beyond tedious, as are Tony's voice, cadence, and verbal ticks. I have a hunch that WEEI will close the drive time gap come the next ratings book.
 

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This is a joke, right?
Yes it is but it wasn't stated as such.
Hell Andrew Luck has a guy that not only was good enough to be drafted with the #3 pick but just last year his own team thought he was worth trading a first round pick for.
 

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Also Ben Roethlisberger has never had weapons, or a running game since Jerome Bettis retired.
Yeah that was funny. Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown say hi. He also poo pooed Hines, even though hew as pretty good during Ben's first few years.
 

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That was the most embarassing bit of radio i have ever heard.

I went on a 5 tweet tirade trying to explain to people what a troll job this was. Its so embarassing that if i was f and ms boss i would have called a meeting right after.

Felger over and over again proclaiming "thank god this guy exists" is just literally the dumbest thing ive ever heard on a show full of dumb shit.

I cant even convey my anger levels when i was flipping through the dials and heard them giddily laughing because some had the balls to rip Brady.

I notified Bedard and told him to please address this next week, which is the only two hours i can stomach anymore.

Fall from grade is coming for these two nitwits if anyone at weei can figure anything out.
 

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Yeah, basically what they proved today is that they will give anyone who says stupid shit airtime. And not only give them airtime but praise them for being unique in some way.

Of course the hour they spent fielding calls from irate Pats fans afterwards only proves they were right.
 

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I mean i am 95 percent podcasts during my hours of driving anyways. I tune in for Bedard 2-4 on tues because hes one of the best NFL guys IMO. But im stunned at how far this show has slipped. Used to really enjoy it despite the occasional cringe worthy trolljobs. Now? Its a one trick pony.
 

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Success is a relative value; one team's achievement is another team's failure. 
 
No one is going to "kill" the Celtics if they win 42 games and a playoff round but get bounced by Cleveland. Why? Because they aren't supposed to be even close to that good. 
 
Think about it for a few minutes and then explain why the Jets high-water mark of the past four decades is a bit different than the standards Patriot fans have for a successful season. 
 
This isn't the New York market though, its Boston. I don't deny the right of Jets fans to have been extremely happy about when the team made it to the AFC Championship game 2 years in a row. I expect a member of the Boston sports media to take a more logical approach to it then Felger did. When that happened Felger constantly proclaimed that the Jets roster building philosophy was superior to that of the Patriots and that the Jets making it to those 2 AFC Championship games proved it. What Felger completely ignored (either due to his bias against the Patriots or purposely) was the exact circumstances of the Pats franchise at the time and the very fluky nature of how the Jets got in that position. One of those years was Brady coming back from losing an entire season to injury, which very clearly affected his performance, and the Pats also lost Wes Welker in the last game of the season, giving them only a week to prepare for a playoff game without him. One of those years (I'll be honest I can't remember which one it was), the only reason the Jets even got to the playoffs was because a 14-0 Colts team purposely took out all their good players and for all intents and purposes forfeited a game to the Jets. That was enough to boost the Jets' strength of schedule such that they won a tiebreaker and got into the playoffs. I won't deny that the Pats whiffed big time and deserved criticism when they blew that playoff game against the Jets in one of those years. At the same time, I think to take Felger's stance, which was that the Jets roster building philosophy was superior to that of the Pats was absurd. The next year the Pats made it to the Super Bowl and were within a Wes Welker dropped pass of winning it, while the Jets missed the playoffs.
 
As for the Broncos, if the Pats having a great regular season and getting far in the playoffs but failing to win the Super Bowl is a failure, then it has to be for the Broncos as well, because they haven't won a Super Bowl in the Manning era either.
 

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Quiddity said:
 
This isn't the New York market though, its Boston. I don't deny the right of Jets fans to have been extremely happy about when the team made it to the AFC Championship game 2 years in a row. I expect a member of the Boston sports media to take a more logical approach to it then Felger did. When that happened Felger constantly proclaimed that the Jets roster building philosophy was superior to that of the Patriots and that the Jets making it to those 2 AFC Championship games proved it. What Felger completely ignored (either due to his bias against the Patriots or purposely) was the exact circumstances of the Pats franchise at the time and the very fluky nature of how the Jets got in that position. One of those years was Brady coming back from losing an entire season to injury, which very clearly affected his performance, and the Pats also lost Wes Welker in the last game of the season, giving them only a week to prepare for a playoff game without him. One of those years (I'll be honest I can't remember which one it was), the only reason the Jets even got to the playoffs was because a 14-0 Colts team purposely took out all their good players and for all intents and purposes forfeited a game to the Jets. That was enough to boost the Jets' strength of schedule such that they won a tiebreaker and got into the playoffs. I won't deny that the Pats whiffed big time and deserved criticism when they blew that playoff game against the Jets in one of those years. At the same time, I think to take Felger's stance, which was that the Jets roster building philosophy was superior to that of the Pats was absurd. The next year the Pats made it to the Super Bowl and were within a Wes Welker dropped pass of winning it, while the Jets missed the playoffs.
 
As for the Broncos, if the Pats having a great regular season and getting far in the playoffs but failing to win the Super Bowl is a failure, then it has to be for the Broncos as well, because they haven't won a Super Bowl in the Manning era either.
I agree with your overall point, but the emphasized seems like pretty blatant revisionist history.  I guess you could say, maybe, that Brady was slightly less than his usual self in the Week 2 loss to the Jets, which ended up helping the Jets' playoff chances, but that's about it.  It wasn't because Brady was still rusty that they got blown up by the Ravens in that playoff game.
 

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You're aware that Felger has admitted to being wrong about the Jets thing repeatedly since then, right. Certainly more times than you've hit the paragraph button.
 

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You're aware that Felger has admitted to being wrong about the Jets thing repeatedly since then, right. Certainly more times than you've hit the paragraph button.
Will you stop trying to make sense BH, they're rolling, so much so that they are tweeting mad and contacting other members of the media.

This is more fun than the show itself.
 

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shawnrbu said:
I cannot wait for 2 PM to hear Mike and Tony's take on the Sox big moves in free agency. 
They don't have a plan. 
 
They are Yankees (And that's ok, but don't sit there on a picnic table in Fort Myers and tell us you do things different than the Yankees, Mike!"
 
Hanley and Panda are redundant. 
 
They overreact to whatever happens the previous year
 

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NickEsasky said:
They don't have a plan. 
 
They are Yankees (And that's ok, but don't sit there on a picnic table in Fort Myers and tell us you do things different than the Yankees, Mike!"
 
Hanley and Panda are redundant. 
 
They overreact to whatever happens the previous year
 
But if Red Sox hadn't signed Hanley or Sandoval:
 
*They're cheap, and don't prioritize winning anymore 
 
*They're valuing the philosophy over players. Just like the Patriots, Mike!!!!!!
 
*I want horses. Not ponies!
 

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They don't have a plan. 
 
They are Yankees (And that's ok, but don't sit there on a picnic table in Fort Myers and tell us you do things different than the Yankees, Mike!"
 
Hanley and Panda are redundant. 
 
They overreact to whatever happens the previous year
So basically the same thing that T&R and D&C said this morning.
 
Can't say I blame them, I'm not going to react let alone overeact because I don't know what the plan is yet, but for talk radio I can see all this as legit talking points.
 

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Will you stop trying to make sense BH, they're rolling, so much so that they are tweeting mad and contacting other members of the media.

This is more fun than the show itself.
You're a really weird dude and kind of terrible, but I can't even begin to fathom how you became a Felger stan.
 

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jsinger121 said:
Mazz at 2:07pm: "Hanley Ramirez is a dog"
 
Surely an opinion reached after watching dozens of his games over the years...or just that one clip of him booting the ball into LF that everybody has seen.
 

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jsinger121 said:
Mazz at 2:07pm: "Hanley Ramirez is a dog"
 
Not a dirt dog.
 
I'll assume Misserotti is not a racist.  But he'd have a lot fewer callers in support of that comment if the racists didn't have phones.
 

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Some idiot just called and said "I can't suffer through another year of Mookie Betts."
 
WTF
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
"Cespedes doesn't have nearly the question marks as Ramirez does."--Mike
"Absolutely Mike"--Tony
 
Outside of the fielding, on-base percentage, and hitting for average Cespedes is fine.
 
Add in apparently unwilling to move to RF and possibly not the greatest work ethic in practice.
 

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Bertrand roasting the Lions' defense for planning on the Pats aiming for 200 yards rushing in the game was great.
 

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In the 30 seconds I got to listen today I heard Mass talk about how he thinks the plan is to play Hanley in LF because IT'S FENWAY! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FENWAY PARK HERE, NOT ANY OTHER STADIUM!"
 
While I agree that's probably where he is going, it was still funny for him to dismiss the notion that if Hanley plays LF, he will actually play half his games in other stadiums NOT Fenway....
 

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Another one I enjoyed was Mazz' insistence that it would be impossible for Sandoval to ever be worth 20 million in a season. It's pretty clear that he either A. has no concept of the modern day free agency market or B. is aware, but feigns ignorance because he is a ridiculous troll. 
 
A year ago, I would have leaned towards option B. but he has proven himself to be such a lazy hack, I don't know what to think anymore. I understand the goal of their show, and am usually entertained by Felger's schtick, but Mazz has me screaming at my radio/TV almost every time I tune in. 
 

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Felger in rare form on Sports Tonight. First he mocks Sandoval and Ramirez for their broken English (really dude? thought that was D&C's territory) then says Pablo and Ortiz are winners unlike the chicken and beer crew (who now have something like seven rings between them).