Eovaldi to Red Sox, per Rosenthal
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Good move. Don't give up much and Eovaldi provides starter depth and can slide into the bullpen in the postseason. Death on righties this year(.630 OPS against in 120 PAs)
Better than I thought we might do. Send Pomeranz to the pen, get Thornburg healthy. Kind of like this deal.
Not that expensive, either. He’s on a 1/$2m deal, so we’d owe him a prorated portion of that. Not sure where that keeps us with regard to the tax.
I’m guessing that they didn’t see much that was both attainable and a difference maker for the pen after Britton went off the board. They probably had this deal on ice already.
Only one real disaster start (2 2/3 innings, 8 ER against the Twins), and a few others that weren't great, but he has kept the team in most of the games he's started. That sounds good to me, particularly with injury trouble the Sox are dealing with.
Seems like a good move for both teams. Beeks sure didn't seem ready at all to pitch in the majors this season, but Tampa has time and a low-pressure environment for him to adjust.
A few years from now, Beeks will probably be telling us "Back off! I'll rip out your eyes and piss on your brain!" but Eovaldi should be much more useful this season.
A few years from now, Beeks will probably be telling us "Back off! I'll rip out your eyes and piss on your brain!" but Eovaldi should be much more useful this season.
Keep hearing this but I don’t see him dating any better there with this current stuff.
Definately a guy who can come in against tough righties in the playoffs too. Has some dual utility to this team both as a starter and playoff arm.
That ending said... Jalen Beeks doesn't suck and a pretty interesting arm who has high level minor performance. I think its pretty solid for the Rays.
That ending said... Jalen Beeks doesn't suck and a pretty interesting arm who has high level minor performance. I think its pretty solid for the Rays.
Good move for the Sox. Eovaldi has been solid, with flashes of brilliance.
I don’t know much about Beeks, but the Rays have a very solid track record of identifying pitching upside and executing on development of new arms.
So probably a pretty fair deal.
I don’t know much about Beeks, but the Rays have a very solid track record of identifying pitching upside and executing on development of new arms.
So probably a pretty fair deal.
This is a steal. K/BB says it all. 3rd best in AL after a couple guys named Verlander and Kluber. Better than Chris's.
Took a no-no into the 6th inning three times this year.
Only worry is AL East hitters (AKA MFY) know him.
Took a no-no into the 6th inning three times this year.
Only worry is AL East hitters (AKA MFY) know him.
For better or worse, more than a third of those were in one game against Houston.
Spent all of 2017 rehabbing from second Tommy John surgery, then underwent arthroscopic procedure March 30 to remove loose bodies from his elbow. Interesting side note. Only the second time the Rays and Sox have done business. Back in 1999 Rays sent Julio Santana to Boston and got back PTBNL Will Silverthorn
Beeks has 6 years of control vs 2 months of Eovaldi. Beeks hasn't been impressive in the majors but has dominated AAA and could end up being a back end starter or a reliever. Eovaldi is decent and will help out the club more than Beeks would this season. One thing that sticks out is that Eovaldi is giving up an alarming amount of homers (1.74 per 9). Maybe the Sox are selling high on Beeks, but I don't think this is a steal.
They got a guy who figures to help a 71-32 team for a guy who had no chance of helping and doesn't have great upside. A "steal" may be a bit much since Beeks could have some value going forward but it was, nevertheless, a very good deal for Boston.
It's interesting--he has SLASHED his walk rate--career is 2.8 to 1.3 this year, but looking at his other numbers (strike %, etc.) nothing really jumps out except he's getting more swinging strikes and foul balls. He's throwing more strikes, but it's not showing up in he "looking strike %" just swings and misses. Wonder what he changed.
Or, they gave up a guy who has a decent shot at being an effective cost-controlled reliever for many years in exchange for a guy who nobody wants to see start in a playoff game, when they are already a lock to make the playoffs. Basically, the return is a fairly small increase in chances of getting the division over the WC.
this is my opinion as well. I would have rather given up two lottery ticket prospects than a guy who has had a taste of the majors and might be really close.
are we sure Eovaldi can handle the Boston climate? wasn't he a bit of a headcase for the Yankees?
I'm genuinely surprised at the embedded regret here. Personally, I would have driven Beeks to the airport myself.
Only 3 in his last 5 starts, though (27.2 IP).
Then again, his 1.7 HR/9 this year is exactly what he allowed in 2016 (23 in 124.2 IP).
Helped the Yankees out, at least for the day, since they don’t have to save him now...although maybe that’s better long-term, as it’s one less time they get to see him before he heads to the Sox.
Seems like a great move in terms of risk-reward and helping fill needs. Outside of a disastrous start vs. the Twins, Eovaldi has been pitching great of late.
You’d really think that worst case he’s a valuable asset when it comes to the daily grind and attempting to finish off the division, and hopefully he can reach a best case scenario where he can be impactful in the playoffs as well.
Seems like a great move in terms of risk-reward and helping fill needs. Outside of a disastrous start vs. the Twins, Eovaldi has been pitching great of late.
You’d really think that worst case he’s a valuable asset when it comes to the daily grind and attempting to finish off the division, and hopefully he can reach a best case scenario where he can be impactful in the playoffs as well.
This is one of those that I think really will only become clear in hindsight and really could go either way. If the Red Sox win a championship, it's easy. If they don't and Beeks becomes a useful number 3/4 for a few years a low cost, then it goes the other way. (Though, even if it does go that way, it doesn't necessarily mean that he would have succeeded the same as a Red Sox as he might as a Ray. They have some weird funky shit they do to develop pitchers.)
It's hard for me to view this trade as anything but necessary. It has really gotten to the point where I look forward to when Porcello starts and when Wright was starting when he was healthy. Not because he's great, but just because of how hard it is for lefty pitchers to grind away day in and day out in the major leagues and the American league east. Even when they dominate, our starters expend a ton of effort. Even Sale is not immune to needing 20 plus pitches to have a clean inning. Righties just picking up the ball and fouling it off nonstop. There was one start this year where Sale had to face nine natural right hand batters. Not even a switch. Texas maybe.
It just didn't feel sustainable or ideal for the playoffs. They needed a righty starter who didn't invoke the tax.
It's hard for me to view this trade as anything but necessary. It has really gotten to the point where I look forward to when Porcello starts and when Wright was starting when he was healthy. Not because he's great, but just because of how hard it is for lefty pitchers to grind away day in and day out in the major leagues and the American league east. Even when they dominate, our starters expend a ton of effort. Even Sale is not immune to needing 20 plus pitches to have a clean inning. Righties just picking up the ball and fouling it off nonstop. There was one start this year where Sale had to face nine natural right hand batters. Not even a switch. Texas maybe.
It just didn't feel sustainable or ideal for the playoffs. They needed a righty starter who didn't invoke the tax.