ECF Game 6 - Tired of this %*#*

8slim

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From a fans perspective...very enjoyable season. You make the final 4 in any sport, it's hard to complain. Losing to a less talented team that played better than you is a little tough. But we are set up for a decade of competing for the finals. I'm ok with that. Seeing the team grow has been great.
Agree with this.
 

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considering at the start of the season we were saying we hope Tatum turns into a top 10 player for title contention, this was a massive step in the right direction.

In the short term though, I don't know how they lost this series and they shouldn't have come close to losing this series.
Many positive steps this year but a real shitty finish. Just can’t get over the blown games. Tatum and Brown will get better but so will the rest of the league.

This was a great season but a huge missed opportunity at the same time.
 

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Kemba needs to go. He was a dud offensively and was absolutely shit defensively.
That's...(1) easier said than done, and (2) not taking into consideration everything he has provided for this team, which, if you have followed the team all year long, was a LOT. He was instrumental in helping the Js get to the next level.
 

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I would feel 100% different under slightly different circumstances, like if it was Tatum/Brown/Smart and some lesser non-max FA pieces. It would be a hard lesson that will help down the road. But instead the two most expensive players probably hurt them the most, and it’s going to take a fuckton of work to even have the flexibility to support Tatum and Brown as they continue to get better.

It’s so hard to have either a C or G who is a total defensive liability. The versatility of everyone else is great but Kemba is just going to get exposed by any decently coached offense play after play. Desperately wish we had Brogdon instead.

Ainge needs to already be planning for how he is going to create space to pair another stud with Tatum, whether it’s his buddy Mitchell or whoever. That is the title shot. And maybe some rocket-fueled development from Rob Williams.

Also if there aren’t at least two fucking deadeye shooters in camp next season then Ainge can fuck off too.
 

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I'm sorry, but phantom fouls did this team in. You just can't recover from 2 free points every time down the court. One reason I'm glad I don't have to suffer through "King" James getting every call.
to beat Lebron u have to Triple team him or say i am dareing u to score 100 pts and not guard him at all make him work on def so in the 4th he has no legs left
 

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No, they didn't. But they did give them at least 10 foul shots when there was no foul. Granted, Boston missed so many shots down the close. But you just can't recover from gimmes.
I'm not a fan of the officiating, either, but Miami played its ass off tonite and hit big shot after big shot. Bam clearly took all the talk about Theis' big Game 5 personally.

The Heat is a worthy winner, IMO.
 

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Jayson needs to gain more upper body strength, lower his dribbles. If he can do that he will be MVP candidate next year.
 

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Two of the past three years the Celtics are eliminated from the ECF after having a 4th quarter lead in an elimination game.

I'm going to be a big Heat fan the next two weeks.
 

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Started the 4th on a 10-2 run. Defensive effort was fantastic, got a few steals and turned them into points, had Miami on their heels, and then someone unplugged the controller. I don’t understand it. Yeah Miami went on an insane run but so would the Red Claws if they got to play that version of the Celtics in the last 6 minutes.
 

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I never gamethread and I say this in the context of an entertaining playoffs for the Celtics and in deep appreciation of folks getting this up and running in the bubble. But Stevens calling a timeout with half a minute left down double digits is just a punctuation mark on some of the worst coach use of timeouts I can ever recall. You could feel the momentum shifting with something like six minutes left and if you for some reason couldn’t feel that, you could SEE that there seemed to be no offensive plan for the Celtics and at the VERY LEAST no rhythm. And yet there are three timeouts at that point, just sitting there unused.

This is a young team that needs direction during games when the flow isn’t with them. I think Stevens is a good coach who needs to spend his “summer” at timeout camp.
 

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I’d rather have Brad coaching the Celtics than basically anyone who is conceivably available. And I’m not blaming him or anything but...

Holy shit if it’s not incredibly frustrating to watch him on the sidelines. Brad watches the chaos around him during every 4th quarter heat/raptors run like a high school science teacher who’s retiring next year and just doesn’t give a shit anymore.
 

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People still don't want to give the Heat any credit. This year, especially after the restart, they're the best team in the East.
With a few bounces in there favor at the start of the series the C's win in 5.

The Heat saw there chance and took it but they were not the better team.

The Celtics will be better for this run and this series. It showed them what it takes to win.

If I had to pick a team to be a fan of going forward counting the finals I would pick th C's over the Heat. I think this is the peak for the heat.
 

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I would feel 100% different under slightly different circumstances, like if it was Tatum/Brown/Smart and some lesser non-max FA pieces. It would be a hard lesson that will help down the road. But instead the two most expensive players probably hurt them the most, and it’s going to take a fuckton of work to even have the flexibility to support Tatum and Brown as they continue to get better.

It’s so hard to have either a C or G who is a total defensive liability. The versatility of everyone else is great but Kemba is just going to get exposed by any decently coached offense play after play. Desperately wish we had Brogdon instead.
I’m not too worried about that. It’s not like Kemba is a 6’ guard on the wrong side of 30 with lingering knee problems.
 

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Kemba needs to go. He was a dud offensively and was absolutely shit defensively.
He was also almost certainly playing hurt. I’m not going to say he’s toast or needs to go based on the small sample size of one postseason. If he simply can’t stay healthy next year either, or doesn’t improve in the postseason next year, then we can talk.
 

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From a fans perspective...very enjoyable season. You make the final 4 in any sport, it's hard to complain. Losing to a less talented team that played better than you is a little tough. But we are set up for a decade of competing for the finals. I'm ok with that. Seeing the team grow has been great.
See, this is just not true. They have 3 maybe 4 seasons left to win before Tatum & brown probably both demand out. This is just the way the NBA is now. You have to win immediately or you may never get another chance. 3 times in 4 years losing in ECF & not breaking through is a disaster. They will likely never get this good of a chance again.
 

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If I had to point fingers for the series loss

1-Kemba pretty much no-showed
2-Gordo played hurt
3-the turnovers and losses in the first 2 games killed them
4-Brad did not cover himself in glory-took too long to solve the Heat's 3-2 D

The Heat were better and deeper team in this series.
 

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The toilet.
Always disappointing to end a season with a loss, especially when it's as talented as this year's Celtics, but what a great season and effort. I think going into the playoffs, if I were told we'd still be alive game 6 in the conference finals, I'd be thrilled.

For all it's ameneties, bubble life couldn't have been easy. Really proud for this team and how they responded and conducted themselves. There's a ton to be excited about for next year.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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How does that have any connection whatsoever to the Heat series?
The team played one way before that game, and consistently played another way after that game, complete with several more late game collapses.

I guess it is more accurate to say they never came back from opposing coaches employing a grade school defense, but the timeline is about the same.
 

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With a few bounces in there favor at the start of the series the C's win in 5.

The Heat saw there chance and took it but they were not the better team.

The Celtics will be better for this run and this series. It showed them what it takes to win.

If I had to pick a team to be a fan of going forward counting the finals I would pick th C's over the Heat. I think this is the peak for the heat.
Bam is 23 and a mega star in the making. They aren’t going anywhere.
 

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Not trying to be a dick, but can you explain this?
Sure. There are other young players in the league who will get better too. Growth in Tatum and Brown will at least be partially offset by this with respect to getting back here.

It’s really hard to make an ECF. Many assume we’ll be back but there is no guarantee of that.

They needed to break through this year. It was all there except they melted down so much.
 

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They will win a maximum of one game in the Finals. Again, there will never be an easier path to the Finals than through a team whose best player is Jimmy Butler.
We watched a different series if you think Butler is Miami's best player.