Dope Divisional NFL Game Thread

[BaseballJones]

Definitely a perfect storm of sorts.

2015: 11-5, #9 offense in the NFL - Kelce a pro-bowler
2016: 12-4, #13 offense in the NFL - Hill an all-pro, Kelce an all-pro
2017: 10-6, #6 offense in the NFL - Hill a pro-bowler, Kelce a pro-bowler, Hunt a pro-bowler

So when Mahomes entered the starting role in 2018, he already had three very very big-time players at skill positions. Kelce was the #1 or #2 TE in all of football. Hill was a top 3 WR in all of football. Hunt was one of the best RBs. Their OL was loaded. And they had a genius offensive mind running things.

And in steps wunderkind Mahomes on a rookie deal. So they can afford all these guys. This isn't to say Mahomes isn't great because he is. There's nothing on the football field he can't do, it seems. Makes every throw. In total command. Smart. Athletic. Incredible.

BUT...

He walked into a perfect situation. And at some point, Hill will be gone. It's not likely that the guy replacing him will be as good. Kelce will be gone, and it's almost certain that the next guy won't be as good. Their RBs already aren't as good as Hunt. And as his $$ figure goes up considerably, it will be harder to replace these guys.

This is why dynasties generally don't last more than a handful of years, no matter how good the QB is.

And it's why we should never fail to appreciate Brady and Belichick.

 

[Rudy's Curve]

To all of this Hill All-Pro talk - he was All-Pro as a returner before Mahomes, not a receiver. He had a very good 2017 with Smith (75-1183-7 in 15 games), but Mahomes is clearly able to get the absolute most out of him.

 

[BaseballJones]

He was a great football player before Mahomes got there but I won’t disagree that Mahomes has made him better. That’s what great QBs do.

 

[Harry Hooper]

You mean the Vince Ferragamo super bowl?

Yes, thanks, the 9-7 Rams in SB XIV!

For three quarters, Ferragamo and Tyler played steady games devoid of turnovers throughout the most back-and-forth Super Bowl ever: 3-0, Pittsburgh; 7-3, Rams; 10-7, Pittsburgh; 10-10, then 13-10, Rams at halftime; 17-13, Pittsburgh on a 47-yard bomb to Lynn Swann; 19-17, Rams on a halfback option pass to Waddy after Waddy outwrestled Ron Johnson for a 50-yard bomb.

The Rams intercepted Pittsburgh quarterback Terry Bradshaw for the third time near the end of the third quarter, this time near the Los Angeles end zone. As the quarter ended, the Rams gleefully sprinted to the other end of the field to show the champs they possessed the giddyup to drive for a game-clinching score.

www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/super-bowl/article225337790.html

Go to 1:42 elapsed of the video:
View: https://www.facebook.com/steelers/videos/1110165569364976/?t=6182

 

[Euclis20]

To all of this Hill All-Pro talk - he was All-Pro as a returner before Mahomes, not a receiver. He had a very good 2017 with Smith (75-1183-7 in 15 games), but Mahomes is clearly able to get the absolute most out of him.

He was an all-pro as a rookie, returner or not. His receiving numbers as a rookie were solid (61/593/6) and as you note his sophomore season was even better. He wasn't exactly Dante Hall or Devin Hester, he was on an elite trajectory (as a receiver) before Mahomes. It's a very symbiotic relationship for sure.

 

[BornToRun]

Probably BB. I don't think it's a slam dunk though.

It totally is.