Dom Smith DFA'd
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Is that true? Honest question - I see that Wikipedia says yes, but MLB.com's glossary doesn't mention it as an option, and Major League Rule 2(c)(5) says,
they shall not be eligible to participate in a championship season game after having been so designated until they are released or assigned to another Major or Minor League Club.
which would make me think that they have to go to another club.
It seems like it'd be a pretty big loophole if players could just be DFA'd for seven days and then returned to the club. Especially since I'm unaware of any limit to the number of times a player can be DFA'd in a season.
In 35 years Dom Smith will be a folk hero in Boston. Maybe there will even be a baseball forum named after him.
No, I don't think it's true. Once you are DFAd, you can't be re-added without being exposed to all the other teams on waivers first. If no one claims you, then there are different rules depending on service time, etc, as to whether the original team can send you to AAA if they want or you are a FA.
I get that. I should have been clearer that I was proposing giving him a raise.
This was my exact thought. I'm trying to remember the list of players who have joined the Yankees in mid/late summer and gone on a tear. Glenallen Hill is the biggest name, with his insane summer in the Bronx. Shane Spencer did it too I think. I feel like there were others. I fear that Smith could play a similar role over the next month or two.
Here are Hill's stats in 2000: played 40 games for NYY that season, hitting .333/.378/.735 with an OPS+ of 133, while crushing 16 homers and driving in 29 in 143 plate appearances.
They can't spare a 40 man slot to upgrade from Ben Rice, who is clearly overmatched and trending the wrong way?
Not just a 40 man spot, a 26 man spot too, but no? They have Jazz Chisholm back in a week or two, Jon Berti on the mend, Jasson Dominguez itching to get called back up, and Anthony Rizzo potentially back at some point. I do think they will start to DFA established veterans who have sucked at some point after Sept 1 (when they're no longer eligible to join someone else's postseason roster), but it's not going to be for Dom Smith.
The easiest 26 man spot is to demote Rice. Smith would then be DFA'd for Rizzo. But you don't want to get rid of someone who could potentially be useful from the 40 man to pick up Dom Smith for a couple weeks.
Honestly it would be much easier to just start playing Wells at 1B more, Trevino at C, and Rice backing up both (he was mostly a C in the minors), but they're still inexplicably trying to resuscitate the corpse of DJ LeMahieu. Oswaldo Cabrera can play 1B too.
Dom Smith kinda stinks, though. Why are we worried about the Sox losing him or someone else picking him up? He’s a 29 year old 1B with a career 247/314/405 line. His most similar comps include Todd Benzinger and JT Snow. Had some nice moments with the team but is about forgettable as it gets.
Yeah, I have no idea. He was replacement level, thank god, which was what we needed while Casas was out. I'm really not even sure he gets another major league contract, to be honest. He was worth exactly 0.0 fWAR last year and .02 this year.
It’s the fear he ends up in pinstripes and ends up hitting a late inning tie-breaking double. That’s it.
Keith Foulke vs. Tony Clark in Game 6 of the 2004 ALCS remains the most terrifying at-bat in my life. I think we all have a little PTSD from that guy.
It comes down to Foulke v Clark or Tek trying to catch Wakefield in extras for me.
I’d pay pretty good money to experience that feeling again. Most intense 2-3 minutes of my life in sports fandom. Pure delirium.
Good for him! Happy to be wrong.
Wonder how much he's getting. Stack that cheddar, Dom!
Because not everyone follows baseball the same way. Some people like the spreadsheet way and plug Player A's stats in and looks at the numbers and determines whether he's worth it or not. Another person enjoys rooting for the player and likes that Dom Smith seemed like a pretty decent dude whose teammates liked him and that would do what he could to win a game. Maybe another person sees Smith as an avatar of themselves, a guy who is doing whatever he can to keep his dream alive.
There are a lot of dudes who've come through Boston where if you look at their numbers, kinda stink. Benzinger is one I suppose, but he cranked a walk off homer off the Twins' Keith Atherton in the tenth to keep Morgan Magic going and that was fun. And memorable. Kevin Romine did something similar that same year against the Royals. Dave Henderson's numbers in Boston sucked, but I'll never forget what he did for the Sox in the 86 post season. Same with someone like Bobby Kielty in 2007. Or Leskanic in 2004.
Spreadsheet baseball has its place, but wondering why people have an affinity for a guy like Dom Smith is really missing the forest for the trees.
It was going to be hard for him to clear all the way until the Yankees had a chance but I really didn't see any non-contending teams bothering... and any contending team not named the MFY's in need of an improvement over their existing 1B guy. And despite what Jon Abbey says, I just don't see the Yankees sticking with Ben Rice. There's options and ways to manipulate the final weeks of a season and to add Smith for it. I'm glad it didn't happen though.
And the spreadsheet also ignores what he did when he was given the 1B role full time.
Pretty sure there is no stacking cheddar. Players generally don't get to double dip when they are released mid-season and sign somewhere new. Dom already gets the salary owed him based on his Red Sox contract. Whatever the Reds pay him (typically the pro-rated league minimum) is deducted from what the Sox still owe.
I did not say that, I said that there was no chance they would go after Smith. They have a ton of guys coming back soon, Chisholm tomorrow, Rizzo is starting a rehab stint, Berti should get a spot when he is ready too. That is three infielders they need to find spaces for, Peraza went down already and Rice is probably next.
I watched part of the Pirates - Reds game tonight. Skenes pitched 6 innings, gave up 2 hits, struck out 9. Dom played first, went 0-for-3 with 3 Ks.
I'm watching the condensed version of that game, and it looks like the ump had a pretty wide strike zone. And of course, Skenes is awesome.
Dom had a full week off. Gotta give him time to get in a groove.
Based on his time with the Sox, he should be raking for the Reds right around World Series time.
