Do you want Remy to be the teams announcer on opening day?

Do you want Remy to be the teams announcer on opening day?

  • Yes

    Votes: 171 33.8%
  • No - I want him fired or "forced" into retiring

    Votes: 95 18.8%
  • No - I want him to quit on his own

    Votes: 240 47.4%

  • Total voters
    506

Foulkey Reese

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Yes, I know there's already a thread in the Media section, but I'm curious to know what everybody thinks in poll form. 
 
Vote away.
 
Edit: I voted I want him to quit on his own, but I don't care how he goes. I just want him gone. I think he's going to be a major drag on the vibe of this team as the trial starts and more stories come out.
 

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Either one of the latter two options is fine by me- I would select both if possible.
 

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I definitely don't want him on the air anymore - that's what's most important.  Whether he's "pushed out" or leaves on his own isn't of tremendous concern to me, but I voted for the third option, as it would mean that Remy possesses at least a bit of self awareness.
 

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I do care how he goes and don't want to see it forced on him. But go he must, and as soon as possible.
 
And damn, if the results of this poll are as overwhelming as the early returns are indicating...I wonder what impact, if any, that has on the Sox and/or Remy.  I don't mean to overinflate SoSH.  On the other hand, this place is a reasonably good template for how Sox fans think.
 
Are you looking at this, Sox caretakers?
 

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Given Werner's comments to CHB today, if Remy goes, it'll be described as voluntary whether or not it is.
 

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I voted "on his own" but he isn't the entire problem. The Remy/Orsillo duo should have been broken up some time ago. And NESN could stop all the in-booth and in-stands interviews and make sure that the game is the most important thing.
 

Dead Balls

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If my elderly relatives are any gauge, the greater masses will be pretty pissed if he goes.

My 70 year old Aunt may never forgive the team if they fire him.

I'm not so sure SOSH is a predictive sample on this.
 

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I don't want him to be.  Recent events not withstanding it has more to do that 99% of the time him and Orsillo are talking about anything but the game, or having a laughing fit.  Recent events are only the icing on the cake.
 
Maybe as a kid I was blind to their faults but I loved it when Sean McDonugh and Bob Montgomery were the announcers.
 

Doctuh

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I just think there are people who can do a better job in that space in that booth. I would have voted the same four years ago.
 

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While I do think that maybe they should mix it up, I think it would be the wrong time to get rid of him. Remember, he did not kill anyone so I'm kind of shocked how quickly he is being pushed out on here. Give Remy one more year and evaluate from there. Maybe have someone come in and call 40 + games on a regular basis and ease them in as a replacement. I personally enjoyed when Eck would call the games when Remy was going through treatment. Dave Roberts wasn't that bad either. I voted yes but I feel that they should be looking to split up the duo as soon as the 2014-2015 offseason. 
 
Vadertime, Sean McDonough was a really good announcer. I think him and Orsillo sound too much alike to be in the booth together though. He was certainly my favorite when I was a kid and I'd turn on channel 38 or NESN. 
 

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I could not care less about Remy and how he's reacting to what his entitled shitbag son did.  I do care for the young girl left behind and the family of the girl that was brutally murdered. 
 
But regardless of that, Eck is so much BETTER than Remy.  I've wanted Remy gone for 2 years for that specific reason. 
 

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I've known some people that worked at NESN, and as far back as 2004 would say things along the line of, "Jerry isn't the lovable character he plays on TV", and said he was more of a bitter type that cared more about a cig and a glass of whiskey than going on air. I wonder if it related to stress in his personal life, or if it was just that type of person, who not shockingly would raise such "interesting" kids. It's been tough to listen to games with him on board; he's not bad, per se, but at one point having grown to dislike Orsillo's robotic self, once Remy was off the broadcasts it was increasingly more obvious that the problem wasn't really Orsillo, but Remy. Orsillo is a vanilla, repetitive announcer on his best days, but it works when paired with someone like Eckersley, because despite his warts (and him grinding on some of my pet peeves), the guy has a good voice and seems to be a professional. The Remy self-promotion and gigglefests got old a while ago. It was tough to buy into 'Remy the goofy color guy' when you knew it was an act.
 
All of that aside, it's clear that Remy needs to focus 100 percent of his time to his family at this point. He's made a great living turning a failed career on the baseball diamond into a success in the booth, but I don't know why people should be forced to grin and bear his presence given what the children he raised have done, while he plays the goofball in the announcing booth bankrolling their entitled and sociopathic behavior. I can't help but think all of the time in that booth and on the road could've been best served with his family when his children were in their formative years.
 
While I was taken aback a bit by John Henry's defense of Remy, I would hope the Red Sox could have an amicable split and set up a college fund for Jennifer Martel's child, and lend support in the interim, as this child was only born into this world, only to have her mother brutally murdered, due to the organization giving employment to a convicted batterer. A man, who if it weren't for the paychecks from the organization to his father, wouldn't have been able to lawyer his way out of prison time and time again. Admit fault and move on.
 

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I've never really had a problem with the non-baseball shenanigans that have gone on in the booth with Remy and Orsillo. Baseball is a sport with a LOT of nothing happening and I don't mind some jokes and laughter to fill the void. That's a big part of the reason I love Eck.
 
And up until recently I didn't think the criticism of Remy as a person was all that fair given we didn't know much about his family situation in general. But after some of the details that have come out recently, I really don't think I can watch a game with him announcing. I've completely flip flopped.
 

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I voted yes only because there wasn't a "Don't Care" option. I am not attached to Remy as an announcer, but think a lot of the anger directed at him is unreasonable . If his presence bugs that many people though, I have to admit it is a legit issue for NESN. Ideally he would only be used part time this year. This would be an easy cop-out for the Sox if the heat picks up. They don't have to completely kick him to the curb, and those fans who are put off by his presence are given an occasional reprieve.
 

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I like Eck in the booth a lot, as most do here, but I wonder how much Eck likes Eck in the booth? I get the impression that Eck would not want to sign on for a 162 game grind. I prefer Martin and Woods, but they aren't walking through the door any time soon.
 

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I generally dislike suicide specifically, and death in general, but I prefer that he leave a note saying he was a crappy enabling father and didn't protect the victims (Jennifer and granddaughter) and go that way. So, obviously the last option.
There is something tremendously fucked up about you.
 

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I voted for the last option and think this is a really sad situation all around. Its tough to blame the parents for the actions of a grown man, but also difficult to ignore the very clear enabling that was going on (though hard to judge it). Sadly, I feel like Remy gets all of this but realizes if he doesn't have his one place of solace to rely upon then things are going to end very quickly and very poorly for himself. I didn't much care for him as an announcer, but I definitley have some level of empathy for his situation.
 

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Norm Siebern said:
I like Eck in the booth a lot, as most do here, but I wonder how much Eck likes Eck in the booth?
Eck loves Eck everywhere and all the time.

If Eck was the father of the murderous roidhead and he was the full time announcer would the poll results turn out anywhere close to the way this poll probably will? I doubt it. Wanting Remy out isn't a new development on SoSH and the Glob article is just another reason, not the main one.
 

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I listen to the radio anyway. But the number of bitchy and whiny threads on this subject has now cemented me into the "remdawg forever" demographic.

PS unless Eck takes over. In that case throw le rem into the volcano.
 

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mt8thsw9th said:
 
While I was taken aback a bit by John Henry's defense of Remy, I would hope the Red Sox could have an amicable split and set up a college fund for Jennifer Martel's child, and lend support in the interim, as this child was only born into this world, only to have her mother brutally murdered, due to the organization giving employment to a convicted batterer. A man, who if it weren't for the paychecks from the organization to his father, wouldn't have been able to lawyer his way out of prison time and time again. Admit fault and move on.
This seems like a pretty gigantic leap....?? There's no way of knowing this, and I don't see how the Red Sox as an organization could be perceived to have any culpability.
 
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There is something tremendously fucked up about you.
I realize it's an extremely minority pov, but if the media attention to such a note can significantly improve the parenting of maybe even two current Remdawg Nation members, it would be a net positive. 
 

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The pitchforks on this board regarding this situation have blown my mind. I have stopped myself from commenting in the other thread because this is a hard situation and very emotional for people,  and I simply didn't think I would keep calm enough to have a useful response to some of the things I've read in it.  Mostly, these are folks who don't have much experience with regard to DV, and who seem to think this is an unusual and crazy story that never would have happened if the courts were better, and the parents were better, and the friends were better etc.  And you know, that's not necessarily their fault. We have a nice way of just ignoring DV here in America, without even really knowing we're ignoring it.
 
Like Rovin Romine, I have worked extensively in the field, but with victims of DV as a counselor and advocate, and have sat in countless court hearings where the exact same stuff that happened with Jared Remy happened (including one hearing that involved a soon to be murderer). I met, listened to, watched and shook my head at perpetrators who were in for their 5th, 6th, 7th offense over a course of years, victims who have been victims in the system 3 or 4 or 5 times over, often victims of the same abuser, and often even after Protection From Abuse orders were granted. Folks, domestic violence, has been, is, and always will be a societal problem.  It has roots that are deep and thick and strong: societal roots, cultural roots, familial roots, biological roots, and these days, even chemical roots. The Remy/Martell situation happens ALL THE FREAKING TIME in our country, we just don't hear about it, or if we do, we don't think twice about it like we do with this one because it doesn't involve someone we "have" to listen in order to watch a baseball game. It doesn't disturb our little piece of the world on a nightly basis. It doesn't make us so uncomfortable that we want to peel our skin off. Not every situation like the Remy/Martell ends in murder, but more do than you probably know, and there are so, so, so, SO many perpetrators like Jared Remy (JUST LIKE HIM) in your community, under your nose, down the street from you, that it would blow your mind if you knew the actual numbers. This did not just happen because Jerry Remy was a craptastic father, or because he paid Jared's legal bills, or because his wife had a relationship with the victim that made the whole thing even more entwined and messed up. It also happened because we allow domestic violence, and violence against women in particular, to happen in this country.  
 
I mean, people want to fire the father of the murderer in this situation because it's too uncomfortable for US to have to listen to him? Really? What in the hell will that change for anyone except US, sitting on our couches? I guess I am sick of reading that people just can't listen to him because he was a crappy parent and enabled Jared's behavior and now Jennifer Martell is dead and poor us for being reminded of her death. People, WE ALL ENABLE JARED'S BEHAVIOR. I mean, this is a discussion board where misogynistic comments are the norm and the C word is something that is completely acceptable to use - AND WE'RE ONE OF THE INTELLIGENT, DECENT DISCUSSION BOARDS IN THE WORLD!!!  We're part of those roots, everyone. I feel like maybe the pitchforks should go back in the shed and we all ought to look in the collective mirror and see what we each could do differently to make it more difficult for a man to abuse a woman and get away with it.  Because so many get away with it. (And my apologies for using "man" and "woman" here - but I am  concentrating on that aspect of DV for the purposes of this thread, which is the most prevalent in this country by a wide margin, but certainly not the ONLY aspect of DV).
 
Anyway, I want Jerry Remy on the air.  I want him on the air to remind all of us that domestic violence happens all the time, that people are victimized all the time, that no one is immune and that this problem in our country requires more regular people to know about it and to understand it in order for it to change. I want his voice to grate on me and on you to the point that we want to do something, anything, to make a difference.  Hiding him away helps no future victim and it does;t help Jennifer Martell.  I'd like to see the Sox and NESN come out with a serious chunk of change and some sort of charitable event to fight DV in the greater Boston area.  THAT would be useful and meaningful and might make a difference. Firing Jerry Remy won't make any difference to those in need of help.  If you want to volunteer some time this year, but are not sure where you'd like to do so, call your local courthouse and ask them if there is a volunteer program for victims of domestic violence in the courthouse - there likely is.  Or call a DV hotline and ask about volunteering at a shelter victims of DV.  Or PM me and I will find you the relevant numbers in your neighborhood.  You will learn, you will help, and you will talk to people you know about it (because you won;t be able to stop thinking about the stuff you've seen and heard), which in turn may help them to see the problem and try to become active to change things, too. And remember that every time Jerry Remy laughs with Don, well, that's about how often a woman just got backhanded, pushed, cut, burned, threatened, punched, stolen from, tied up, raped or maybe even killed by a significant other - right in your community.
 

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And remember that every time Jerry Remy laughs with Don, well, that's about how often a woman just got backhanded, pushed, cut, burned, threatened, punched, stolen from, tied up, raped or maybe even killed by a significant other - right in your community.
 
It must be awful being a woman during one of those 19-5 blowout games then. 
 

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Don "two-step" Orsillo is clearly our franchise broadcaster. As long as Don is in there we should be good. I do, however, really enjoy when Don and Remy just giggle in the booth for two innings. Jenny Dell will be missed and will be difficult to replace. It's too bad she got DFA,d; she had real potential.
 

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luckysox said:
People, WE ALL ENABLE JARED'S BEHAVIOR. I mean, this is a discussion board where misogynistic comments are the norm and the C word is something that is completely acceptable to use - AND WE'RE ONE OF THE INTELLIGENT, DECENT DISCUSSION BOARDS IN THE WORLD!!!  We're part of those roots, everyone.
There is a massive difference between making a couple of comments on a message board and enabling someone who has repeatedly beaten women.  When you try to associate the two, your message loses a large amount of its credibility.
 

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I voted yes, because of the small minority who have explained better than I possibly could. It's a terrible situation that isn't fixed because Remy's out of the spotlight.
 
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
I realize it's an extremely minority pov, but if the media attention to such a note can significantly improve the parenting of maybe even two current Remdawg Nation members, it would be a net positive. 
 
You really believe that Jerry Remy's employment makes any difference in peoples lives that aren't directly linked to him?
 

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SoxFanInCali said:
There is a massive difference between making a couple of comments on a message board and enabling someone who has repeatedly beaten women.  When you try to associate the two, your message loses a large amount of its credibility.
No, it doesn't.  These things are all  connected to and around DV. Misogynistic behavior is a part of the societal roots of DV, and  family enabling a perpetrator with such violent behavior is a familial and biological root. They are connected. Not the same, connected.
 

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RGREELEY33 said:
This seems like a pretty gigantic leap....?? There's no way of knowing this, and I don't see how the Red Sox as an organization could be perceived to have any culpability.
 
Sure, but without the Red Sox gifting him a job when he got out of jail, he's not in a position to meet Jennifer Martel. I find it hard to believe the Red Sox, who gathered enough intel to know that Manny Ramirez met Enrique Wilson in a hotel bar when he called out sick, didn't know about Jared's many run-ins with the law, and stint in jail, while an employee of the club. And a stretch, I suppose, but money the organization paid his father repeatedly went to save him from punishment after many of his egregious offenses against women, many of which happened before and during his employment with the team.
 
Why I would like the organization to extend such a gesture is because cutting loose Remy, which I believe is the right thing to do, lessens the ability for the Remys to continue their current lifestyle in Weston, MA, and provide financial support to the child of the woman that Jared Remy killed. As the recent custody battle showed, the Remys view themselves as the financial savior for this poor kid, and that financial clout which led to a monster like Jared being free to kill a mother of a small child shouldn't be further flexed to try to influence this kid's lot in life. 
 
A leap? Sure, but this is a situation that unfortunately happened, and the Red Sox did absolutely nothing until Remy got caught with steroids, which in the age of the PED witch hunt was finally an action that could potentially hurt the Red Sox brand. Beating a woman and serving jail time for the act wasn't something that would warrant a dismissal by the team.
 

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Lucky Sox, Thank you for your amazing post and especially: "And remember that every time Jerry Remy laughs with Don, well, that's about how often a woman just got backhanded, pushed, cut, burned, threatened, punched, stolen from, tied up, raped or maybe even killed by a significant other - right in your community." Boom.
 
I want Remy on the air for the same reasons that I still go to Woody Allen movies. I know the back stories but I separate them when it comes to entertainment/art. But I wonder if Don and Remy will ever be the same again -- in terms of their connection -- not just in terms of ours.
 

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mt8thsw9th said:
Sure, but without the Red Sox gifting him a job when he got out of jail, he's not in a position to meet Jennifer Martel.
So they should hold themselves accountable for the butterfly effect? If he hadn't met Jennifer Martel through a fellow Fenway security guard, does that change things in your mind? Jared was apparently charismatic enough during his better days to make friends without the help of the Red Sox. Should any business that hires someone with a shaky criminal past be held accountable for giving that person a shot if they later commit another crime, even if it is well after they left said job? In that case why would anyone hire someone with a criminal record? That's a lot more people who will need government assistance.
 

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luckysox said:
No, it doesn't.  These things are all  connected to and around DV. Misogynistic behavior is a part of the societal roots of DV, and  family enabling a perpetrator with such violent behavior is a familial and biological root. They are connected. Not the same, connected.
You're not the only one who has or is working on the issue and not all of them agree with you.  And there's nothing even remotely inconsistent about wanting Remy gone and still contributing to cause in other ways.  The false dilemma and false equivalency doesn't help your position.
 

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The wrong side of the bridge....
I don't want Remy to be the team's announcer on opening day or ever again, but that's because he hasn't been good at it for years, not for all the bad reasons that have been hashed out ad nauseam in the other thread.
 
luckysox, thank you for nailing it.
 

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Remy sucks as a dad and he sucks as an announcer. My Dad claims he was a good baserunner at one time but who the fuck cares now? Get rid of him, already. It's embarrassing.
 
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When I'm listening to Remy broadcast a game, all that matters to me is whether Remy is good at his job - making me enjoy the game more, and not get annoyed at him in the process.  I don't think what Remy has going on in his personal life makes one damn bit of difference (or whether, as eightsworth suggested, he's a big fat phony).  Until and unless it changes what he says or how he says it in the booth, I think no less of Remy than I do about (say) all the ballplayers I root for who doubtless cheat on their wives.  I'm consuming an entertainment product, not judging a morality play.
 
I haven't caught many spring training games this month, so if people feel that Remy is a shadow of his former self, I'd be interested to hear it from them.  But otherwise, I'll get on the opposing soapbox and say that I like the Remy and Orsillo show.  They put the game first, they call it honest, opining on blown calls that favor both sides, they seem to legitimately love the game, they have insights to add, and they do it all without being overbearing, arrogant, or dull.  Sometimes they're kitsch-y.  Sometimes they're corny.  Sometimes they get the giggles, or plug their products.  But I couldn't name a broadcast team who I'd prefer to them (non-Scully division).  The average MLB broadcast makes you fall asleep, or throw things at the TV in the hopes of hitting the likes of Hawk Harrelson.  Remy expands the world of people who watch baseball, and doesn't annoy the hardcore fans in the process.  Until that really changes (in which case, sign me up for Eck), I think he's doing a great job - and that's all I care about.
 

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Baseball is a nice outlet that is wonderfully silly and disconnected from the real world, and everytime I see or hear Remy I'm probably going to think about all the awful stuff his son(s) did. That really bums me out, and I hope it's not something that totally turns me off the broadcasts.
 
I get what luckysox is saying, but I don't think having Remy laughing on tv actually helps victims of domestic violence in any way. It's just awful for everyone, and I think knowing about the murder is going to make Remy and Orsillo's giggly schtick sound really gross. 
 
What might help is having Remy gone, and having the Red Sox establish some kind of new, Jimmy Fund-esque charity (or partner with an existing one) for domestic violence prevention that gets some meaningful fundraising airtime and donations. If Remy actually came up big, really coming out hard and passionately against domestic violence, and going out of his way to help victims, then that could turn it around for me. He could turn this situation into, well, something closer to a positive. I just don't see him using that opportunity, though, and it makes me sad.
 

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Sille Skrub said:
 
I'm going to agree to disagree with you on this one and not even scream about it.
 
Except for Foulkey, in his case I 100% concur.
 
SoxFanInCali said:
There is a massive difference between making a couple of comments on a message board and enabling someone who has repeatedly beaten women.  When you try to associate the two, your message loses a large amount of its credibility.
 
Love you guys, you know that, but I'm with luckysox here.
 
I think it's a mistake to read her post and focus on the "we all enable it" line and read that through the lens of what each of us do as an individual, although that's a natural human reaction. The fact of the matter is, though, that most people don't realize just how pervasive the problem we're discussing is, and most people who say that most people don't realize and are more aware of it still don't realize.
 
Domestic violence is like a Matrix level kind of conspiracy theory. People who aren't "in the know" can't really fathom just how pervasive it is, and in general have trouble believing the reality because they can't imagine that anything so widespread could be going on without them knowing it. But if you stop and think about how many women you know who have been assaulted, abused, raped... do the numbers add up? Or does it mean that you simply don't know in most cases? And if so, why don't you know?
 
How many serious political contenders have real domestic violence policies as part of their agendas? As a society, we care about this issue on paper, and are outraged by it on paper. But it's not a priority or anything.
 
Something about the Remy thread in the media forum has been unsettling to me and I think I've finally put my finger on it... it's the fact that people are so bent out of shape about seeing the history of violence when people like RR who have actually worked in the system think, "Looks like Tuesday."
 

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Also, Eck is not going on the road for the team. He's a very public recovering alcoholic who takes very seriously his role as role model and mentor to other recovering alcoholics. In this role, he eschews the temptations of the road.
 
As good as he is, he's not going anywhere--and good for him.
 

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Money the Red Sox are paying Remy goes toward paying Jared's legal bills and the fight for custody over Martel's child.
 
That alone is more than enough to justify wanting Jerry gone and out of the booth. Not the giggling, not his parenting, not his actual demeanor when the camera is off, not Jared's own actions. Just that.
 
Also, we all enable domestic violence? The next time a redhead, male or female, gets stabbed the blame should partially be placed upon me, for I made a joke about gingers not having souls a couple of weeks ago on a message board. Regular, chemically balanced people have the ability to differentiate meaningless comments and horrific acts, especially realizing that the former does not enable the latter.
 

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Adrian's Dome said:
Also, we all enable domestic violence? The next time a redhead, male or female, gets stabbed the blame should partially be placed upon me, for I made a joke about gingers not having souls a couple of weeks ago on a message board. Regular, chemically balanced people have the ability to differentiate meaningless comments and horrific acts, especially realizing that the former does not enable the latter.
You make two assumptions here, both of which are wrong. The first is that individual actions can be dismissed. The second is that non-actions don't matter. Step back from the individual and look at the aggregate.
 

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I actually want him gone and have for years, but nothing to do with his son, I just don't like what he brings to the table,.  I prefer a guy who is much closer to todays game than he is and does not giggle as much.
 
I do have a problem with a guy being forced from his job because of what a family member does.  I understand the PR aspect of it all, but I honestly don't even think of his son when I listen to Jerry do a game.  I must admit the Don and Jerry show has me watching other teams feed on mlb.tv more often than not, so I may not be a representative audience.