Thanks. Still can't find the original report mentioning Jackson as the catalyst for the onfield inquiry.ScubaSteveAvery said:
Still see it here.
Thanks. Still can't find the original report mentioning Jackson as the catalyst for the onfield inquiry.ScubaSteveAvery said:
Still see it here.
African or European?Obscure Name said:
But how long does it take? What's the specific heat capacity of leather?
Obscure Name said:
But how long does it take? What's the specific heat capacity of leather?
Schmaltz estimated that it would take no more than 30 minutes for the temperature of the air inside the ball to acclimate to the temperature of the air outside.
OnWisc said:At this point it's hard to envision any outcome where the party that comes out of this looking the worst isn't the media. To reasonable people, at least.
Maybe Mort is taking the air out of the original story?staz said:Mort Report pulled?http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpostindex?blogname=mortreport&src=desktop
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Not listed in the drop down menu, either.
I went with the "It's funny because Ray Lewis killed a guy" one. I didn't want to be too subtle.twibnotes said:A picture of Ray rice in street clothes ought to do the trick...or better yet, a picture of Ray Lewis in court imitating the stabbing
EXCELLENT call.vadertime said:is there any doubt at this point that an entire episode of Mythbusters will be dedicated to this?
If that is what they are using as evidence you're going to have to use pictures and monosyllabic words because they won't have the comprehension for anything else.brandonchristensen said:Anyone have any links I can post for people supporting them? They use the Mark and Bettis segments from ESPN as their smoking gun.
He said Lord of the Rings, not Xenophon's Anabasis.TheShynessClinic said:Eat the largest bag of dicks you can find.
GlenMorangie said:
So true. And consider this: What if the total team and personnell weight of the Pats is higher than Indy's? The gravitational pull from the extra mass, though slight, could be enough to slowly - but certainly - suck air molecules out of the balls on the NE sideline.
How is the media not talking about such a possibility?
This was awesome.ernieshore said:An amusing, and somewhat logical, perspective from Steve Czaban - radio host on Yahoo Sports and local D.C. radio.
Mark it zero, Belichick
drleather2001 said:What is the Colts trainer farted a lot while he was filling up the balls? Aren't farts heavier than air? They eat a lot of meat in Indy.
Fantastic article, I am so impressed with anyone who isn't buying into that mass hysteria right now.ernieshore said:An amusing, and somewhat logical, perspective from Steve Czaban - radio host on Yahoo Sports and local D.C. radio.
Mark it zero, Belichick
Pats' balls are from Venus, Colts' balls are from Mars.Ferm Sheller said:You almost wonder whether gravity had an effect on the psi. Maybe the Pat's balls were kept in a bag on the ground and the Colts' balls were stored higher, like on a bench or something.
You should add: "(you know, the guy your team built a statue for)"LogansDad said:I went with the "It's funny because Ray Lewis killed a guy" one. I didn't want to be too subtle.
Harry Hooper said:
What about the fact that the Patriots balls were in Foxboro all week while the Colts balls were flown in Friday before the game. Did the Colts balls get more inflated from the plane flight?
There is a fear that has been growing in the back of my mind, and it's something that's been hinted at by several posters:drleather2001 said:I really expected that the NFL would say SOMETHING after the Brady conference.
Whatever. The Patriots are the sacrificial lambs for big ratings, I guess. What a crock of shit.
I find it disturbing that NFL buddy ESPN is in full "Roast the Pats" mode, as I have to think that if Goodell wanted it any other way, he'd ask them to cool it.
He's totally going to fuck the Pats. Just watch. 1st rounder and 6 game suspension for BB and a 2 game suspension for Brady or something. I bet he tries to use this as a way to make other teams happy and break the fucking team for a few years.
People do stupid things all the time. If you're banking on a "they're too smart to lie" theory these days, you're better off playing the slots. I am not saying they are lying. I am not saying any of this matters. But I am saying is predicting what the league might or might not do, oe might or might not know, based on a "they wouldn't have said X if" theory is wishful thinking.fiskful of dollars said:I cannot believe that the Patriots would let 2 HOFers (essentially the faces of the franchise for the next 25 years) go in front of the media and blatantly lie. They must know (or not know anything) that there is no smoking gun to be found. Otherwise they risk a Rafael Palmeiro moment. Every time the Pats/cheating/scandals come up they will play snippets of the pressers with the principals lying over and over. That simply can't happen. Better to be ambiguous, dissemble, "can't comment on an ongoing investigation", etc. Total radio silence is better than an outright lie.
The Pats brain trust must be smarter than to allow that type of mistake. Generally, the truth eventually comes out. If NE is ever caught lying in today's pressers, they're fucked for a decade. I can't imagine Kraft would allow this. I agree with others who thought BB nailed the conference today. I also thought TB looked a little shaky.
I'm amazed that the media is calling TB (and to a lesser extent BB) bald-faced liars. I hope we get definitive proof or some explanation that completely exonerates the Pats. I'd love to see Brunnell, Bettis et al eat a bag (or bowl, did we get a final ruling?) of dicks.
amarshal2 said:Hatchet job on Brady by Ian O'Connor of ESPN NY
http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=12213363&city=newyork&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FwCYoDqSABu%22%7D
Accuses him of lying and thinks if they have proof he shouldn't be allowed to play in Super Bowl.
This is the greatest. I may need to bookmark and read it over and over for sanityernieshore said:An amusing, and somewhat logical, perspective from Steve Czaban - radio host on Yahoo Sports and local D.C. radio.
Mark it zero, Belichick
They did a helium in footballs episode before so sure, why the hell not. Bring it on science!vadertime said:is there any doubt at this point that an entire episode of Mythbusters will be dedicated to this?
lexrageorge said:...so he can either:
a.) Admit defeat and levy a token fine for essentially poor quality control on the balls.
No idea who that guy is but that was great. Thanks for the link.ernieshore said:An amusing, and somewhat logical, perspective from Steve Czaban - radio host on Yahoo Sports and local D.C. radio.
Mark it zero, Belichick
RedOctober3829 said:@NEPD_Loyko: Buzz in Mobile, central figure resposible for stirring up deflategate none other than the man with impeccable character.. Jim Irsay.
lexrageorge said:There is a fear that has been growing in the back of my mind, and it's something that's been hinted at by several posters:
I've felt all along that the 12.5-13.5 psi range is very loosely enforced. Sure, once in a while the refs test the balls and some adjust the pressure pre-game (Aaron Rodgers admitted as much). But it was never a big deal. As noted by several retired QB's (Brunell excepted), there is hardly any difference, if any, in feel, and the refs probably feel they have better things to do during prep time than to bother pressure checking all 24-48 balls. Especially given the fact that the officiating crew for the AFCCG is fairly new to each other, it's not inconceivable that the ref decides to spend more time working on game prep with guys that he's only partially familiar with. Brady tells his equipment guy how he likes them, and they're never measured for compliance by the Pats staff. Why bother? Typically, if they're found to be out of spec, the ref pumps them up (maybe with some grumblings and/or laughter that the Pats and GB's balls are always either under- or over-inflated) and that's it, and noone hears about it. Meanwhile, Luck doesn't care one way or another, so the Colts equipment guy checks them diligently.
Finally, someone on the Colts decided to raise a stink, and when the balls were tested they came in light. Either the refs knew they were light when they approved them pre-game, or they just didn't bother to test (I know some media reports claim otherwise, but who knows how reliable those are). Goodell is obviously embarrassed that this "inspection loophole" was exposed, feels taken advantage of, and is telling his guys to do everything they can do to find the "smoking gun". Naturally, Goodell, who probably does hate Belichick, focuses on the coach, and tells his guys to skip Brady altogether. He also tells the Mort's sources to say the balls were at spec prior to the game. Just as naturally, there's zero evidence that anything untoward was done to the balls, so Goodell is now truly stuck.
Goodell knows that if he attempts to suspend Brady that the NFLPA will most assuredly step in (Brady was part of the NFLPA's lawsuit), and will certainly win on appeal ("he never interviewed me to get my side of the story" would be a powerful weapon to use at the hearing). So the reason the NFL is silent is that Goodell is still desperately trying to find that smoking gun that will allow him to nail Belichick. Chances are he won't get one anytime soon, so he can either:
a.) Admit defeat and levy a token fine for essentially poor quality control on the balls.
b.) Attempt to suspend Belichick anyway despite the lack of any solid evidence, a move that could actually backfire on him longer term.
c.) Defer any decision until the offseason, and then come up with some manufactured method of nailing BB for at least part of the 2015 season (along with forcing the team to fork over some draft picks). This gives the league time to come up with all the various legal and PR arguments as to why such action is necessary to protect the "integrity of the game" and other nonsense.
None of this is rational, but it's clear that rational left the building long ago. I'm hoping I'm wrong (which I could very well be on a number of fronts). Just something that seems to jive with Schefter's reports, Theo's sources claiming that there was talk of a suspension at one point, since toned down to just fines, and the obviously excessive delay in any word from the NFL.