Mloaf71 said:ESPN just showed a poll result that said 83% of people believe the Patriots are telling the truth and didn't do anything. Either Pat's fans voted non-stop or the media is out of touch with what the people want.
ftfyHarry Hooper said:
The Colts balls were prepared and inflated differently. They also may not have been measured the same way, or as many times.
Yes, burden of proof is nonexistent.
Well, they're both very upset about thisjohnmd20 said:
Nebraska the lone holdout. They say, GUILTY.
Brady: could appeal under CBA terms. Would likely win based on what we know today.Kevin Youkulele said:I assume any penalty that may be assessed against Brady can be appealed to an independent arbitrator under the CBA terms. Unless there's a smoking gun (ballboy says Brady told him to deflate), he'd have a good shot at getting it thrown out for lack of evidence.
Does anyone know what if any appeal rights Belichick or the team would have?
Slow clap. Brilliantsingaporesoxfan said:
Oh, that reminds me:
I have drunk
the whisky
that was in
the liquor cabinet
and which
you were probably
saving
for breakfast
Forgive me
it was delicious
so sweet
and so cold
Never trust people from Nebraska.johnmd20 said:
Nebraska the lone holdout. They say, GUILTY.
Mark Schofield said:Never trust people from Nebraska.
/Hopes his wife doesn't see this post.
https://twitter.com/sportsnation/status/558402271479091200Ed Hillel said:Um, wow?
This jumped the shark 2 days ago.Red(s)HawksFan said:Kirk Minihane is going to be on O'Reilly tonight. Kirk Fucking Minihane on Bill Fucking O'Reilly.
This thing had gone beyond insane.
He still might have toStitch01 said:Just imagine if they had won this game 31-30. Obama might have had to give a special national address tonight.
FFS, just finished lunch. I'll vote.Marciano490 said:What's up with Hawaii?
If you are going to inflate the balls to 11.5 psi would the refs catch this if you knew that they were only going to weigh the balls prior to the game and not pressure check themDennyDoyle'sBoil said:Back when this thread was in its infancy, it seemed to me that the very witnesses that needed to be talked to were the refs. They are the key to everything. Now, given that Brady hasn't even been interviewed, I wonder whether they have.
Clearly someone was involved on game night. Someone was involved in checking the balls at halftime, and switching the balls, we all saw that on national tv. But who?
Brady and Belichick both said they had no idea what was going on or that the balls were changed. I believe them both. There is simply no way they could be lying about this, because if they were told, it would be by the refs or the league and so they'd be outed as liars right away.
But there was an entire behind the scenes thing going on that neither knew about. Nor does it appear that Brady ever even noticed that he was playing with different balls. I assume if he said to Anderson, "what's up with these balls" or whatever, he'd again be outed as a liar.
The NFL is fucking incompetent. They release to Mort the mysterious 2 lbs. thing, and then nothing, when it's clear something was going on.
Red(s)HawksFan said:Kirk Minihane is going to be on O'Reilly tonight. Kirk Fucking Minihane on Bill Fucking O'Reilly.
Called it.ifmanis5 said:All three network news programs lead with the Pats story. NETWORK NEWS.
ifmanis5 said:All three network news programs lead with the Pats story. NETWORK NEWS.
We don't know that, at all. Even if we believe the leaks, all they said was the the Colts' balls were within the spec at halftime, not that they weren't changed from their pre-game numbers. I've not even seen a leak about where the Colts' balls started and ended up, PSI-wise, and given the contradictory leaks on other fronts I'm waiting for an official report.moondog80 said:The Colts balls make for a decent control group, and they apparently showed no change.
OilCanShotTupac said:I'm on fire in this thread in case you haven't noticed
ifmanis5 said:All three network news programs lead with the Pats story. NETWORK NEWS.
Cheaters Shouldn’t Win In Manufacturing or NFL Football
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Thankfully, my boss didn’t drop the matter. He summoned the VP of Quality to his office to learn more. As it turned out, the VP of Quality had been manipulating the data for months. He ordered his quality engineers to change the data each month to reflect the story he wanted to tell, not the real story. Within a week, he was terminated. The quality engineers kept their jobs as they claimed they had been threatened with the loss of their jobs if they didn’t go along. Their reputations never recovered.
The New England Patriots are in the midst of a huge controversy over deflating footballs during the AFC championship game contrary to National Football League rules. It’s not okay to look the other way on this matter. Just as there were consequences for the VP of Quality, there must be severe consequences for the Patriots.
Will the NFL have to courage to “do the right thing” before the Super Bowl? What is the right thing?
The Patriots must forfeit their opportunity to play in the Super Bowl. The Colts should replace them. If it is not feasible to get the Colts to play, the Seahawks should be awarded the Super Bowl win via forfeiture.
In the law, it is said that it is better for a guilty man to go free than to be wrongly convicted due to subverting the law.
The Patriots cannot be given a shot at winning Super Bowl rings, not this year or any year in which the rules are so wantonly violated. The Patriots and devotees of the NFL need to understand the rules can’t be ignored without severe consequences. The punishment shouldn’t wait until next season—it should exacted now. It should be a team penalty as this is a team sport and a team violation.
This will send a clear and unambiguous message about the implications of cheating.
cheekydave said:
Well, I guess as a Patriots fan, I'm just going to have to learn to live with that disappointment, just like you as a Dolphins fan have to learn to live with the disappointment that your team hasn't been relevant in over twenty years.
That was freaking awesome
genoasalami said:You would think the NFL would issue a statement and/or make some sort of decision on punishment before next week. Not sure how likely that is considering no one from the league has talked to Brady.
E5 Yaz said:I am shocked, absolutely shocked, that Mark Brunnell, Jerome Bettis and Brian Dawkins think Brady is lying
ifmanis5 said:All three network news programs lead with the Pats story. NETWORK NEWS.
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/558407860334247938Silverdude2167 said:
Not without a pair of binoculars it isn't.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:I hope Ron Borges' erection isn't visible to others there.
Average Reds said:
That is a triumvirate of highly concentrated stupid right there.