#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?


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awallstein

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This is a great use of public funds! Taxpayers, please build us a stadium, and later, we'll make you handle our balls!
 

Dropkick Izzy

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Well, Krafty Bob did build the stadium himself (less surrounding infrastructure).

The point stands, however, and I really hope the Mass State Police takes the opportunity to send a bill to 345 Park Ave.
 

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The refs are incompetent. We've seen this all year long. Yet somehow the Wells Report was able to exclude "human factors" as playing any role whatsoever in deflategate. Even more incredibly, the media bought it.

Exponent further concluded that the difference in the pressure drops between the teams was not caused by a malfunction of either gauge or by “human factors” (i.e., variability caused by the particular individual who used the gauge).
 

mwonow

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I guess the NFL has no comment on this - I don't see Mort's lips (or Twitter-fingers) moving.
 
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Yeah, note to Ben Volin: that's how you convey a sincere apology.

edit: I guess we can add him back to the whitelist? Or invite him to all the fun patriots-fan parties now? Or something?
 

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He makes an excellent point about Twitter "weaponizing emotion." These guys get partial, contradictory, and incorrect "facts" passed along to them, and they react based on that bad info, and all of a sudden their public Twitter reaction causes the issue to snowball even more.
 

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I think he problem with Twitter for these guys (aside from simple ethics and lack of legwork for some) is that they see tweeting something as "just a tweet" and not a serious or actual piece of journalism. What they don't seem to understand is that a tweet can reach far more people than any medium they've used before and spread instantaneously. They're far more likely in 2016 to cause a firestorm with bad info in 140 characters than a long form in SI or whatever.
 

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I think he problem with Twitter for these guys (aside from simple ethics and lack of legwork for some) is that they see tweeting something as "just a tweet" and not a serious or actual piece of journalism. What they don't seem to understand is that a tweet can reach far more people than any medium they've used before and spread instantaneously. They're far more likely in 2016 to cause a firestorm with bad info in 140 characters than a long form in SI or whatever.

Oh, I think they know all that. They just go with "blame it on twitter" when it blows up on them.
 

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From that piece:

In 2012, when JPMorgan Chase lost $6.2 billion through a series of bad investments, Vanity Fair reported that the bank's CEO, Jamie Dimon, received a surprise phone call from Brady, with the quarterback telling him to "hang in there" and that even Super Bowl champs have bad days.
If he was making a noose reference, then Brady is my all-time favorite person ever.
 

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From that piece:
In 2012, when JPMorgan Chase lost $6.2 billion through a series of bad investments, Vanity Fairreported that the bank's CEO, Jamie Dimon, received a surprise phone call from Brady, with the quarterback telling him to "hang in there" and that even Super Bowl champs have bad days.
I think Jamie hung in there quite well:
Even as Wall Street braces for more cuts to jobs and bonuses, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon was paid $27 million in 2015, up from $20 million the year before, the company said Thursday.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/01/21/jpmorgan-ceo-gets-pay-raise-35-27m/79132018/
 

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Not sure where Nocera landed on this before, but definitely on the side "NFL ignores the science" now.

On Sunday, when the Patriots play the Broncos in Denver, the temperature is expected to be in the mid-40s, a little lower than the temperature in Foxborough, Mass., for last year’s A.F.C. championship game. There is likely to be some precipitation, just as there was last year, which also will affect the balls.

At the start of the game, the Patriots’ footballs will be set at lowest allowable p.s.i., just the way Brady likes them. At halftime, they will be lower, probably significantly lower.

After all, that’s what science predicts. And you can’t ignore the laws of science, unless, of course, you’re the N.F.L.
 

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Reading that Times article got me all riled up again...Kraft never should have accepted the draft pick penalty. Brady being suspended was actually the lesser harm.
I dunno - being one game from the super bowl is a pretty good outcome on the "no suspension" front
 

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NYT: At the start of the game, the Patriots’ footballs will be set at lowest allowable p.s.i., just the way Brady likes them.
I actually doubt that will be true, much more likely they'll be 13.0, but probably not a big deal as long as they're not over 15 PSI.
 
I wonder what @BannedbyNYYFans.com thinks of that article.
Hey @dabombdig, what are you, stupid or just lazy??!! Take a look above you @edmunddantes post. Only a moron could miss it!!!

To be fair to me (and dabomb), I was looking for "New York Times" article. Edmunddantes quoted the actual writer's name...maybe that is why dabombdig missed it too. Or maybe he's just an idiot like me. Either way, it's a great read. And one to email to your friends who are Patriot haters.

PS - Thanks @GeorgeCostanza . You're Penske material.
 
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Van Everyman

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Reading that Times article got me all riled up again...Kraft never should have accepted the draft pick penalty. Brady being suspended was actually the lesser harm.
I dunno - being one game from the super bowl is a pretty good outcome on the "no suspension" front
Agreed. Especially if you consider that they win the first 10 games. You aren't winning all four with Jimmy behind center, sorry. You might not even be in the playoffs if the injuries played out the way they did.
 

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But Brady did get suspended. Him playing had nothing to do with Kraft rolling over, and it was the lesser harm because it got overturned in court.
 

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Hey @dabombdig, what are you, stupid or just lazy??!! Take a look above you @edmunddantes post. Only a moron could miss it!!!

To be fair to me (and dabomb), I was looking for "New York Times" article. Edmunddantes quoted the actual writer's name...maybe that is why dabombdig missed it too. Or maybe he's just an idiot like me. Either way, it's a great read. And one to email to your friends who are Patriot haters.

PS - Thanks @GeorgeCostanza . You're Penske material.
1/2 idiot, 1/2 lazy, 1/2 drunk. ;)
 

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No, the writer claims that the Patriots were caught and punished for recording opposing coaches hand signals. That is incorrect. Had he added "from the sideline" that would have been correct.
 

Harry Hooper

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No, the writer claims that the Patriots were caught and punished for recording opposing coaches hand signals. That is incorrect. Had he added "from the sideline" that would have been correct.
He also describes the "destruction of evidence" ordered by Goodell as a possible cover-up favor to the Pats without mentioning the AT LEAST as likely possibility that Goodell had the evidence destroyed to cover the tracks of his major over-reaction to the infraction (which is his established m.o. at this point).
 

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He also describes the "destruction of evidence" ordered by Goodell as a possible cover-up favor to the Pats without mentioning the AT LEAST as likely possibility that Goodell had the evidence destroyed to cover the tracks of his major over-reaction to the infraction (which is his established m.o. at this point).
You still missed the point.

They fucking showed the media one of the goddamn videos and it was as tedious and boring as you'd expect.
 

Harry Hooper

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You still missed the point.

They fucking showed the media one of the goddamn videos and it was as tedious and boring as you'd expect.
Well, that was later on with some of the Matt Walsh tapes. Jay Glazer did have an unauthorized snippet from the original collection.
 
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