#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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There's no way the NFL fines or says anything about not speaking to the press to Brady about this before Berman issues a ruling. None.jimbobim said:
And the grievance from the NFLPA on a fine after the ruling would be filed before the ink was dry on the twitter announcement.
jimbobim said:
That strikes me as a very cynical ploy by the league that would not play very well in Judge Berman's court.
I would think at some point Brady says he can't take any questions on DG due to the court proceedings, then ignores any DG questions. If he doesn't get other questions he can just walk away from the mic. He will handle it fine.
soxfan121 said:
The NFL has reached a settlement with Tom Brady of the New England Patriots. Tom Brady will not be suspended or fined for any wrongdoing regarding the AFC Championship Game.
The NFL has also suspended Tom Brady for 4 games due to failure to fulfill media obligations.
Endelman took Brady's place on WEEI this morning and the reason given was it was due to the gag order Berman put on them
PeaceSignMoose said:
As noted in some other place here, Berman would roast RG and the NFL for this in a way that they would find incredibly unpleasant. The NFL may be used to doing whatever it wants, but on a matter (or closely related to a matter) before a sitting federal district court judge they are situated very differently, and I'm confident at least their outside counsel will tell them that in no uncertain terms.
Obviously, if the 'second' suspension is legitimately unrelated to the ongoing proceeding that is different, but the scenario described above won't happen.
For those of us who don't watch Game of Thrones, which I believe the Patricia T-Shirt is from, can you explain it ? I'm under the impression the North was basically screwed over the would always "remember". Is that a fair explanation of the shirt ?
BelichickFan said:
The royal house of the north (Stark) is essentially destroyed, through various acts of treachery. Although ruled by other houses, the residents of the north remain loyal to the Starks.
In the Game of Thrones universe, Roger Goodell is the equivalent of Hodor.
Devizier said:
Fuck that. Don't insult Hodor.
Roger Goodell is Penny. Useless, whiny and tiny.
I'd say Ramsay Snow. Acting irrational and malicious to try to legitimize himself in the eyes of his father. In this instance, his father Roose Bolton is all of the owners collectively. Also ties nicely with Brady/The Patriots being the North and remembering.
Kilgore A. Trout said:
Definitely Joffrey. A little power hungry egomaniac who thinks he rules, but really is just doing the bidding of a council of his elders. When he tries to do something on his own or for a select few of his councilors he screws it up royally. Most people hate him, but because of his goon squad and sycophants no one can openly say/do anything against him. He was born on third base, but thought he his a home run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZmVvMyaog
skip to 1:20
Do any of you even watch Game of Thrones? Goodell may be mentally equivalent to Hodor, Penny and that 12 year old breastfeeder, but he's pretty obviously Joffrey from just about every angle. And Brady is Jon Snow. And we're the north. Wells is Gran Maester Pycell. Florio is Tyrion. Sean Berry is Ramsey.
Guys, this thread has pulled far enough off the tracks.
Shut the fuck up about Game of Thrones, please.
Shut the fuck up about Game of Thrones, please.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
You're right. We need to save server space for the next person who wants to ask if there's going to be a defamation suit.
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/633380038503698432
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 10m10 minutes ago
John Mara on @WFAN660 on DeflateGate: "I just want it to be over with one way or the other. We're all tired of hearing about it.
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 10m10 minutes ago
John Mara on @WFAN660 on DeflateGate: "I just want it to be over with one way or the other. We're all tired of hearing about it.
This type of comment makes me physically ill.soxhop411 said:
If you 'all" wanted it to be over with, maybe you "all" ought to have investigated what your boy Roger did. And grew a fucking pair and said something other than commending him for his decision, asshat. I actually had respect for the Mara family but no more.
btw - what is your beef?? your team isn't going through anything? The Patriots have lost draft choices and their QB has been under attack for 8 months???
STFU, Sir!!!
OnWisc said:
Somehow I doubt Mara would be so blasé about his own reputation going through the wringer.
You want it to be over? Pick up the fucking phone.
You and your colleagues created this monster and this mess -- you want the player to clean up after you? Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Your co-owner already fell on his sword for you, at great personal cost and at the risk of angering his fan base, which he loves dearly.
You and your colleagues created this monster and this mess -- you want the player to clean up after you? Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Your co-owner already fell on his sword for you, at great personal cost and at the risk of angering his fan base, which he loves dearly.
Mara can get fucked. He's one of the owners who has been running his mouth in the media and I am fairly certain he's one of the owners encouraging the NFL to screw the Patriots and probably playing the Tywin Lannister/Don Barzini role as the real driving force behind the scenes.soxhop411 said:
And you thought Tom Brady got railroaded!!!GeorgeCostanza said:Certain members of the Mara family will always have my complete adoration regardless.
Yeah, fuck him and the rest of them for not showing any reason/sanity/decency, and putting a stop to this disgraceful farce months ago. They either actively in some cases, or through silent, tacit approval in others, wanted to see A. The Pats get slammed, because so few of these fucking losers have figured out how to beat them on the field, and B. to shove their heels even deeper into the throat of the NFLPA. And now it's turned into a monster that has gotten out of their control. They are lower than fucking FIFA. Tarted up gangsters.
His quote is kind of open ended. He could be expressing a wish that the NFL does what they need to do to settle and move on or he could very well mean that Tom should drop his appeal, kiss the ring and serve the four games.Super Nomario said:
I for one am going to assume the second meaning, because fuck him.
Super Nomario said:
He stated, "one way or the other." He and his partners are capable of being "one way." One assumes Brady is "the other" to which he refers.
Edit: pluralization.
Seeing that he supported the commissioner's decision isn't Brady the only party who's to blame? If the commissioner's penalty is appropriate than Brady should just do the time.Super Nomario said:
Taking it at face value, I think he's just tired of the situation without directing any particular blame toward Brady. But even interpreted it in the most benign way possible, the comment still makes him appear incredibly obtuse. Goodell works for Mara, has a lengthy track record of handling curveballs worse than Javier Baez, and this time around has victimized a future HoFer and a franchise that is not Mara's. Yet Mara's "tired of hearing about it."
Fuck off. I'm increasingly filled with self-loathing every time I put a cent in the pocket of these out of touch dickbags.
Fuck off. I'm increasingly filled with self-loathing every time I put a cent in the pocket of these out of touch dickbags.
Shelterdog said:
I read him differently. I think saying, today, "I just want it to be over with one way or the other" is a huge movement away from the commissioner. We know that a couple months ago he thought NFL was right. But he did not say that today, he said 'one way or the other' which is very different.
No quote I have seen since the hearing makes me as confident that RG is losing the PR battle.
You mean besides the fact that Mara is the designated a Goodell tire pumper in the media (especially since the Kraft and Goodell schism) and that he oversaw the Mueller "investigation" into the Rice video? Let's just say I've got a feeling like Belichick did when people wanted a timeout before the Butler INT.soxfan121 said:
Well, yeah.
It's kind of obvious that Mara appears not to have expected Brady and the NFLPA to have pushed back as vigorously - or perhaps as effectively - as they have. And Mara seems to (finally) understand that it's not good for business if this continues on. Even worse if the NFL is exposed as a bunch of unethical clowns in the process.
In short, they picked on the wrong guy.
Edit: to PKB
It's kind of obvious that Mara appears not to have expected Brady and the NFLPA to have pushed back as vigorously - or perhaps as effectively - as they have. And Mara seems to (finally) understand that it's not good for business if this continues on. Even worse if the NFL is exposed as a bunch of unethical clowns in the process.
In short, they picked on the wrong guy.
Edit: to PKB
PedroKsBambino said:
This isn't the first time such quotes have been cited as good news. They weren't then; I'm of the opinion they aren't now.
Average Reds said:
If I were guessing, there's roughly these groups of owners at this point:
1. Irrational haters (Irsay, Woody, possibly Biscotti) who simply love the Pats being taken down a notch and care more about that than anything else in this situation
2. Protect the Shielders (Mara, Rooney, Jones, Blank, pre-Deflategate Kraft) who bleed NFL colors and are heavily inclined to protect the commissioner as the face of the league.
3. Silent majority (no idea, them being silent) who want to get on with making money and initially found the Pats complaints about this to be a distraction...and now find the entire episode (including RG's behavior) to be a distraction
4. Goodell haters (Benson family, possibly others, likely Kraft today) believe RG needs to go and if this is what does it...they'll take it
What we saw initially was the public support of group 2, and what I suspect Kraft heard loud and clear privately is the views of group 2 and 3.
What I suspect, and have seen various anonymous reports of, is that group 3 feels it is bad for the brand to have this bleeding into this season, and to have the process be exposed as so indefensible.
I read Mara's quote as an indication that group 2 is getting there as well, and that is where RG feels pressure.
In all seriousness though, this "I'm so sick of hearing about this" sentiment is only a good thing for Brady and the NFLPA. When/If Judge Berman decides on something by September 4th, there is no downside to the owners/fans being pissed about this story not going away for Brady and the NFLPA. There is a lot of downside for Goodell and the NFL to continue to pursue things IF Berman vacates the suspension. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if some of the owners voiced concerns about further action by the NFL, and instead implored RG to just accept the fact that the Patriots were losing $1 million and two draft picks and to move on from Brady.
All owners are diametrically opposed to the union. For them, there is only one entity to blame.
This is an interesting dynamic. In a factory, the product they sell may be assembled by the workers, and if the owners can find other ways to produce the same quality product (see: automation), they'll do it with little regard for the labor.ipol said:
But in pro sports, the labor IS the product. Without the labor, there's nothing to sell, and no way for the owners to make money. So it's irratonal to have this disdain for labor in pro sports because without them, pro sports, and the gobs of money the owners make through pro sports, simply would not exist. I understand they want the labor to perform as cheaply as possible, but that's different from having a disdain for and and adversarial relationship with, the players.