#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?


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PedroKsBambino

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Just to be clear, based on the wording of the article, only one source commented on the ball.  The other three only confirmed that he works for the Patriots.
 
Not that it really matters, but...
 

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PedroKsBambino said:
Just to be clear, based on the wording of the article, only one source commented on the ball.  The other three only confirmed that he works for the Patriots.
 
 
I'm 95% convinced the "ball" source is Mort.
 

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So is this incident the same as the one we saw at the 2nd half kickoff, where there was a brief delay of game, or is it a separate one?
 

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The headline and article is phrased in a way that suggests malice. "Patriots employee tried to sneak fake football into game!!!" This guy forgot to check the football for the K marking. Sounds like an honest mistake.
 

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A source told Outside the Lines that Kensil decided to personally go down to the officials' locker room at halftime of the Patriots-Colts game to check the game balls, in part, because of the suspicions McNally's actions raised.

Kensil did not respond to requests for comment but it has also been reported that the Colts noticed an underinflated football after an interception by linebacker D'Qwell Jackson. Jackson said at the Pro Bowl that he didn't notice that the football was underinflated. Also, Troy Vincent, the NFL's executive vice president of football operations, told "60 Minutes Sports" that Colts General Manager Ryan Grigson told league officials in the second quarter of the AFC Championship Game that the Patriots might be tampering with footballs.

One source said Kensil personally checked the PSI (pounds per square inch) levels of all 12 footballs the Patriots had for use on offense and found that 11 of those 12 were under-inflated by "one to two pounds." They were reinflated to the league-required level and were returned for use in the second half.
 

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theapportioner said:
So is this incident the same as the one we saw at the 2nd half kickoff, where there was a brief delay of game, or is it a separate one?
 
Separate. That ball was in the offense formation, not during a first half kicking play
 

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Yeah, if you want to call if suppression of fandom, whatever. After a car full of fans lobbed a glass beer bottle at me and my 9 year old son a few years ago in Philly I decided that discretion was probably the better part of valor - at least when he's around me.
Impressive bait and switch. Are you a car salesman?

Some moron committing a crime and a 'Giant or Jets fans talking crap' are worlds apart.

Ay cen spel
 

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I'm just hoping that Mr. McNally is not the same attendant who took a piss in 90 seconds.  A. That piss-taking attendant was described as being elderly.  If McNally is the piss-taker, then I hate to think how superannuated I'd be thought of at age 67.  B. A theoretical 48 year old might actually be able to take a theoretical piss in less than 90 seconds, leaving room not only to deflate his bladder but also some number of balls under his jurisdiction.  What a shit-show!
 

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SemperFidelisSox said:
The headline and article is phrased in a way that suggests malice. "Patriots employee tried to sneak fake football into game!!!" This guy forgot to check the football for the K marking. Sounds like an honest mistake.
 
The insinuation is that this guy shouldn't have been handling K balls or game balls
 
The alternate official, Greg Yette, became suspicious when he noticed that the football McNally handed him did not have the proper markings on it, three sources said. One of those sources added that Yette found it surprising that the officials' locker room attendant was on the field, trying to hand him a ball, because officials' locker room attendants don't typically have ball-handling responsibilities during NFL games. Once McNally tried to introduce the unapproved football into the game, the source said, Yette notified the NFL's vice president of game operations, Mike Kensil, who was at the game in the press box.
 

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What is confusing is that, if the Patriots balls were intentionally deflated during the game (per other sources/league/morons), why would they want to give the kicker a deflated football?
 

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Soon we will read that Patriots' employees were either submitting under inflated balls to Colts kickers or over inflated balls to the Colts offense -- maybe both.
 
Whatever it is, dammit, there is something wrong with those balls!
 

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Unless the attendant ran out to the field wearing a cloaking device and secretly swapped out the balls, this is another story to pile on the back of the whaaaambulance. 
 
Plus the fact that the official's job was to check to balls (aka Rodgers trying to "sneak" in overinflated balls) and did his according to the rulebook. 
 
P.S. The story does involve the jumpy words "Patriots," "AFCCG," "balls," and "unapproved," so it makes ESPN top page. Nothing new.
 

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No, but CHB was ecstatic on Sports Tonight a few minutes ago.  Called this story a "smoking gun" and the "Krafts can't say the league has nothing on them now."
 
Between this "story" and the Sox new morbidly obese $100mm third-baseman, CHB must have priapism.
 

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I will name my next child after the first person to put that pear in a cut-off hoodie holding the Lombardi.
 
Where's "I Am An Idiot" when you need him?
 

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Sweet, I like how we get to start this shitshow up all over again over something that doesn't have anything to do with the original accusation.
 
So is the story now that we're deflating balls or that we're swapping in unapproved ones?  Would seem to be an either/or thing and that doing both would negate the advantage of doing either, but to hell with logic.
 

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Pretty dastardly plan thwarted only by the unforseeable clear markings on every ball.

Or the guy grabbed the wrong ball, one of the two.
 

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shawnrbu said:
 
No, but CHB was ecstatic on Sports Tonight a few minutes ago.  Called this story a "smoking gun" and the "Krafts can't say the league has nothing on them now."
 
I legitimate hope nothing but bad things happens to CHB and all his pathetic spawn. Not many people in the world I feel that way about. 
 

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Hendu for Kutch said:
Sweet, I like how we get to start this shitshow up all over again over something that doesn't have anything to do with the original accusation.
 
So is the story now that we're deflating balls or that we're swapping in unapproved ones?  Would seem to be an either/or thing and that doing both would negate the advantage of doing either, but to hell with logic.
 
Next thing you know, the Colts are going to accuse the Patriots of moving the goal posts. 
 

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This story is so absurd it's hard not to actually laugh out loud. I hope Kraft has hired his own set of PIs, particularly for Kensil, and just goes apeshit at some point. Send Ricky Ross after them.
 

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Did Mike Carey not say this exact thing as it happened live on the broadcast? Because I'm pretty sure I heard Mike Carey say this exact thing as it happened live on the broadcast.
 

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Why didn't Blandino mention this during the SB press conference? Seems like it would have been relevant.
 

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I mean Ghost kicks like every ball out of the endzone. What is the implied advantage the dastardly Pats were trying to get here?
 

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I think the key point here is this one...

One of those sources added that Yette found it surprising that the officials' locker room attendant was on the field, trying to hand him a ball, because officials' locker room attendants don't typically have ball-handling responsibilities during NFL games.
 

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Bone Chips said:
I think the key point here is this one...
 
 
That would make this entire thing an isolated incident, right?  If this was so odd that it set off all sorts of alarm bells it couldn't be a regular occurrence, right?  This aspect will be completely glossed over, right?
 

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None of this makes any sense. I can't even figure out why a team would want to doctor 1 of 13 special teams balls that are used by both teams and handled by the refs. And since I can't even think of a motive, I'm just going to stop thinking about it.
 

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I thought this was not only known, but called out by Simms on the broadcast as it was happening. I remember wondering why it was taking so long to get the opening play of the half off, and learned it was later said as such on CBS. As in, I'm not sure if this is actually news. (?)
 
Here's the video at the bottom of this deadspin post: http://deadspin.com/report-nfl-was-aware-of-patriots-deflation-allegations-1680914291
 
Again, this is news how exactly?
 
edit: seems like Jack Sox mentioned as much earlier in the thread
 

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This is the perfect coverup for the NFL. They can't show that the Patriots used "under-inflated" footballs, but they can claim that a referee "caught" a team official trying to "sneak" an unauthorized ball into the game. BOOM. $25,000 fine and the NFL can completely ignore the whole "we let the Patriots flail in the wind for the week leading up to the Superbowl on totally inaccurate and completely unsubstantiated leaks." This allows Goodell to save face to some extent and act is if they did their job in protecting the shield regardless of who owned the Patriots.

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