#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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@AlbertBreer Boil it down, and what Belichick just did -- in the most forceful way possible -- was create plausible deniability.
if rubbing the ball tightens the stitching, or makes the leather contract, would that increase the PSI?SumnerH said:
You kow how I know Bill is being 100% truthful and that this is all bullshit? Because he stood in that podium and got hammered nationally for "spygate" and not once did he downplay the severity of the fines imposed or the process the NFL used. He went up there, owned up to it, got his integrity questioned and weathered the year long shitstorm that came along with it. In his mind he obviously thought it was unfair that he was being punished this harshly for inconsequential bullshit that's rampant around the league, but he knew technically he was in the wrong, so he didn't fight it. The fact that he came on so strong today leaves no doubt in my mind the Pats had absolutely nothing to do with this.
mauidano said:
That if we just racially segregated our neighborhoods none of this would be an issue.
Corsi said:
Heath Evans and Nate Burleson trying to understand physics is embarassing. Them going to creation theory is equally so.
NFLN should have found an actual scientist to appear---those two are no better equipped to discuss this subject than I am to play right tackle in the super bowl.
lambeau said:
No. Here's what happened.
The Pats process to achieve desired texture artificially inflates PSI by 1. Refs get it at 12.5.
Then they play on a cold field. The PS drops by 1.5 because of the weather. But it also loses 1PSI it gained by the treatment process.
Then, when the ball gets back into heated offices, it gains 0.5 PSI.
This explains the lost 2PSI to a t.
Before High School football games are played everywhere, instead of playing Rudy they're going to replay this press conference.
No.SeoulSoxFan said:
Boil it down, what Belichick did was say was,"fuck you, we did not cheat and we tried to re-create the game conditions to explain it. There are a fuck load of variables. The league and all of you can fuck off, I've got a game to get ready for. Do your own experiements. Not my problem. I'm done with the issue."
The larger point in all this is the refs didn't do their jobs and BB knows it. Whether the balls really increased their PSI and then deflated outside or whatever. The refs didn't do their jobs; the Patriots don't see the balls until the game; and the NFL has no proof of tampering.
Go fuck yourself, Roger.
Go fuck yourself, Roger.
lambeau said:
We're not talking about needing to get to sauna temperatures here. If the ball's being held between your knees and rubbed/polished, it could get up to 85F between fairly ordinary friction and body heat pretty easily. That'd be enough to raise it by 1 PSI if the locker room's at 65F.
Obviously a tour de force, but I have absolutely zero doubt that this will fail win over a single pitchfork-wielder. They'll just spin it to fit their narrative - arrogant, smartest guy in the room, defiant....
But I am heartened that the team is clearly doubling/tripling down, as it would seem to suggest that they're confident the league doesn't have anything.
But I am heartened that the team is clearly doubling/tripling down, as it would seem to suggest that they're confident the league doesn't have anything.
snowmanny said:
He did and he doesn't know what they did. But probably, because TB likes his balls on low PSI, they just gave them to the refs with the lowest PSI possible.
At the end BB took a question that we couldn't hear and said setting like "good question, I don't know the answer"
Anyone catch the question?
Anyone catch the question?
Rich Eisen @richeisenhttps://twitter.com/richeisen · 6m6 minutes ago
+1? RT @Scottshuster11: I think listening to Bill Belichick compare himself to Mona Lisa Vito was one of the greatest moments of my life.
+1? RT @Scottshuster11: I think listening to Bill Belichick compare himself to Mona Lisa Vito was one of the greatest moments of my life.
well this was last minute, so maybe they were the only two hanging around the studioPedroKsBambino said:
The other thing BB was probably pissed about was the fact that the Colts tried to do some gamesmanship with this shit and it ended up exploding on a completely different and unjustified level.
Sean Waltman @TheRealXPac 9m9 minutes ago
In light of Belichick being nWo 4-Life, I take everything back I said before. I never really doubted Tom Brady for a second!
In light of Belichick being nWo 4-Life, I take everything back I said before. I never really doubted Tom Brady for a second!
So when BB said he said to (W.Anderson) "we want the balls at 12.5 psi", does that imply that Anderson inflated the balls?
And unless we know what psi the Colt balls started at, its nice that they were at 12.5 when checked, but it doesn't mean they did not decrease from 13.5 (or 14) to 12.5.
And unless we know what psi the Colt balls started at, its nice that they were at 12.5 when checked, but it doesn't mean they did not decrease from 13.5 (or 14) to 12.5.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Fuck Albert Breer. What Belichick just did was give a reasonable explanation to all of you fuckwads who spent the whole week freaking about the most inconsequential bullshit. Out of this whole fucking mess, here comes a guy who actually put in the time to test scenarios that might explain the deflation without human interference. He presents that shit to you, and you really believe Bill fucking Belichick is losing valuable time prepping for a Super Bowl just to come up with something that might exonerate him, even if he knows the team is guilty? Go get fucked.
ObstructedView said:
Maybe the league doesn't have anything because there isn't anything to have?
Infield Infidel said:
Very doubtful that that'd have any significant effect (the bladder is internal and separate from the cover).
I couldn't hear it either but my thought is it was about the officials just by BB's responseloshjott said:
Bob420 said:
I think he was saying they never do any inflating/deflating. They work on the balls, then they give them to the officials, who do whatever they do with PSI.
Someone who is a little more physics-inclined want to comment on this? What could they do to a ball that would raise its internal pressure?Nick Kaufman said:
Close the thread, we're done here until after the superbowl, no more need to discuss this for 100 more pages. News only is all we need the rest will be this reported said this, another this, ex nfl player who played for pats this, can you believe a raven said this. My .02 of course. Let's not give in to the mediots.
I'm starting to think that the reason NFL staff were distraught when hearing about the slightly under-inflated balls is because they knew Goodell would fuck up the situation entirely.
Just an elaborate plot by Irsay to force BB to deal with this bullshit instead of prep for Seattle.