Picturing the NFL execs watching "back to the future"...Kull said:
Unbelievable. What comes after farce? Because that's where this is. NOW we know why the league/officials were distraught.
"There has to be a way we can get those balls back"
Picturing the NFL execs watching "back to the future"...Kull said:
Unbelievable. What comes after farce? Because that's where this is. NOW we know why the league/officials were distraught.
Ed Hillel said:Volin:
Should be easy enough to measure the backup balls now, one would think. If the backups are also under, that would answer it. Unless they were stupid enough not to confiscate those.
SeoulSoxFan said:![]()
Volin on AC360. BV is going to squeeze every second on the national face time as he can. He can do that of course, it's all in the game, but I do feel this urge to grab the largest paper clip and put'em on his snout.
BigSoxFan said:Why hasn't Charles Barkley told the media how stupid they are yet? Where are you Chuck?!
While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Patriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated.
soxhop411 said:This is going to drop at halftime. Isn't it?
With the release being under a paragraph
Marciano490 said:Yikes. Dude's for a face for message boarding.
Well, there goes the leaky bladder hypothesis that no one ever bought anyway!Kull said:And this sudden revelation was right there in the NFL statement all along:
How did we miss that?
In the middle of a Katy Perry wardrobe malfunction.soxhop411 said:This is going to drop at halftime. Isn't it?
With the release being under a paragraph
Ed Hillel said:@BenVolin: NFL clarifies that the officials re-inflated the original footballs at halftime, and that they didn’t use the backup balls
- All 24 footballs were checked by pressure gauge after the game. All 24 checked at the correct pressure—which is one of the last pieces of the puzzle the league needed to determine with certainty that something fishy happened with the Patriots footballs, because the Colts’ balls stayed correctly inflated for the nearly four hours. There had been reports quoting atmospheric experts that cold weather could deflate footballs. But if the Patriots’ balls were all low, and the Colts’ balls all legit, that quashes that theory.
E5 Yaz said:
Check all backyard boats covered with tarpscollardio said:I'm bracing myself for the lockdown order that will inevitably be issued tonight so that authorities can carry out the manhunt for Stevie from Brockton
djbayko said:No, re-inflating the NE footballs at halftime should result in a correct pressure reading at the end of the game because the balls would have been inflated while at game temperature. This re-open so many discussions that I don't want to get into.
Don't forget all the open cellar doors.E5 Yaz said:Check all backyard boats covered with tarps
It's a big ocean.collardio said:I'm bracing myself for the lockdown order that will inevitably be issued tonight so that authorities can carry out the manhunt for Stevie from Brockton
That assumes they were pumped back up indoors and not outdoors right? If officials were in locker room wouldn't it have happened indoors?djbayko said:
Ugh, what a shit show. This is Exhibit A as to why I put little faith in any media leaks. Either they make shit up, their sources are sketchy, or information is lost in translation.
But let's play along. Now this puts Peter King's report from last night into question:
No, re-inflating the NE footballs at halftime should result in a correct pressure reading at the end of the game because the balls would have been inflated while at game temperature. This re-open so many discussions that I don't want to get into.
ifmanis5 said:I wonder if Roger's lack of action this week is part of his punishment.
He likely has nothing conclusive so why not let the Pats twist in the media shitstorm while he shelters himself from scrutiny? There's been zero drumbeat to have Roger do anything from either the public or the media and since the country is enjoying this epic week-long hate fuck sesh, why not let it ride.
lambeau said:I don't like this. Goodell has hired a firm of ex-federal agents who spent three days in Boston interviewing 40 people, but not TB12. The lawyers here will know better, but my layman's understanding is that the target of an investigation is often approached last.
The wisdom of Tom speaking freely to the media for thirty minutes has been questioned. I wonder who's advising him.
Now this is a little paranoid.lambeau said:I don't like this. Goodell has hired a firm of ex-federal agents who spent three days in Boston interviewing 40 people, but not TB12. The lawyers here will know better, but my layman's understanding is that the target of an investigation is often approached last.
The wisdom of Tom speaking freely to the media for thirty minutes has been questioned. I wonder who's advising him.
Totally - that's what it's all aboutE5 Yaz said:
Because the Joe Torre types buddied up to the media. Don't underestimate the media frustration with having to deal with Belichick
tims4wins said:That assumes they were pumped back up indoors and not outdoors right? If officials were in locker room wouldn't it have happened indoors?
Apparently snitching on a snitch is bad form.Van Everyman said:One of the other odd obfuscations in the NFL statement is:
Was this some anonymous tip? A member of the Colts? Why can't they actually say what triggered the investigation?
ifmanis5 said:I wonder if Roger's lack of action this week is part of his punishment.
He likely has nothing conclusive so why not let the Pats twist in the media shitstorm while he shelters himself from scrutiny? There's been zero drumbeat to have Roger do anything from either the public or the media and since the country is enjoying this epic week-long hate fuck sesh, why not let it ride.
Brady picked the balls he wanted before the game, they were approved by the refs, and he had limited contact with them after that. The refs' insistence that the balls were good to go is his best friend right now. Any alleged involvement after that his a he-said, he-said proposition.lambeau said:I don't like this. Goodell has hired a firm of ex-federal agents who spent three days in Boston interviewing 40 people, but not TB12. The lawyers here will know better, but my layman's understanding is that the target of an investigation is often approached last.
The wisdom of Tom speaking freely to the media for thirty minutes has been questioned. I wonder who's advising him.
Worth the price of admission!SeoulSoxFan said:
Shaq to Chuck: "if the world ends, you can go inside my house and in my safe there's be 4 rings and Kenny's 2" ROFL
Add Kenny Smith & Chuck on the green list.
This is an idea I'm getting behind more and more.ifmanis5 said:I wonder if Roger's lack of action this week is part of his punishment.
He likely has nothing conclusive so why not let the Pats twist in the media shitstorm while he shelters himself from scrutiny? There's been zero drumbeat to have Roger do anything from either the public or the media and since the country is enjoying this epic week-long hate fuck sesh, why not let it ride.
tims4wins said:That assumes they were pumped back up indoors and not outdoors right? If officials were in locker room wouldn't it have happened indoors?
My initial read was that even Goodell wasn't that shortsighted, and that he simply missed an opportunity earlier this week to dismiss this outright and needed to take a few days to cover his bases once it blew up.ifmanis5 said:I wonder if Roger's lack of action this week is part of his punishment.
He likely has nothing conclusive so why not let the Pats twist in the media shitstorm while he shelters himself from scrutiny? There's been zero drumbeat to have Roger do anything from either the public or the media and since the country is enjoying this epic week-long hate fuck sesh, why not let it ride.
The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game.
Assuming a powered pump doesn't pump in heated air.djbayko said:
Ugh, what a shit show. This is Exhibit A as to why I put little faith in any media leaks. Either they make shit up, their sources are sketchy, or information is lost in translation.
But let's play along. Now this puts Peter King's report from last night into question:
No, re-inflating the NE footballs at halftime should result in a correct pressure reading at the end of the game because the balls would have been inflated while at game temperature. This re-open so many discussions that I don't want to get into.
OnWisc said:My initial read was that even Goodell wasn't that shortsighted, and that he simply missed an opportunity earlier this week to dismiss this outright and needed to take a few days to cover his bases once it blew up.
In the wake of Kraft's comments about the NFL showing up in New England like the fucking FBI in Mississippi Burning, I'm now feeling that Goodell is the Maginot Line of commissioners, utterly unable to deal with the fluid nature of crises and always fighting the last war.
Hoya81 said:If they just inflated the balls at halftime, whats the likelihood that they wrote down and kept exact PSI for each ball? Or did they just report back to the league that the balls were low and they pumped them back up?
At that point, it's just the word of the referees, right?
PedroSpecialK said:O'Reilly's involved.
Shit just got real
Peak Oil Can Boyd said:Since we're all hanging to the hope that the refs half-assed the pre-inspection, how is the following language not definitive that the PSI levels were measured accurately? Because the words "pressure gauge" aren't present?
Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game.
The question is whether Goodell will take any action before Dennis Miller finishes his answer.E5 Yaz said:
He's been doing it for a couple of days. Even asked Dennis Miller what he thought
doc said:Assuming a powered pump doesn't pump in heated air.
This has been explained. 'Prior to the game...' actually means 'prior to any game...' in lawyer language. They are not saying they tested to the 12.5-13.5 standard before the Pats game. They are saying that they tested to the same standard that they test to for any game.Peak Oil Can Boyd said:Since we're all hanging to the hope that the refs half-assed the pre-inspection, how is the following language not definitive that the PSI levels were measured accurately? Because the words "pressure gauge" aren't present?
Thank God he brought in some reasoned, intellectual muscle.E5 Yaz said:
He's been doing it for a couple of days. Even asked Dennis Miller what he thought
This has been explained. 'Prior to the game...' could mean 'prior to any game...' in lawyer language. They are not saying they tested to the 12.5-13.5 standard before the Pats game. They are saying that they tested to the same standard that they test to for any game.Peak Oil Can Boyd said:Since we're all hanging to the hope that the refs half-assed the pre-inspection, how is the following language not definitive that the PSI levels were measured accurately? Because the words "pressure gauge" aren't present?