Derrick White, extends 4yrs/$125.9M

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The blocks that White is routinely making now are absurd. I can't recall a 6-4 guy ever making a play like the one he made on Dillon Brooks, where he got shoved, spun, and then elevated immediately to block the shot.

Heck, I can't recall many 6-9 guys making a play like that.
 

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The blocks that White is routinely making now are absurd. I can't recall a 6-4 guy ever making a play like the one he made on Dillon Brooks, where he got shoved, spun, and then elevated immediately to block the shot.

Heck, I can't recall many 6-9 guys making a play like that.
White is otherworldly at figuring out the release point of the attacker, and knows how to get his body and arms in position to get to that release point without fouling. Besides the obvious skills and smarts needed to do so, it’s obvious that he spends a lot of time studying.
 

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The blocks that White is routinely making now are absurd. I can't recall a 6-4 guy ever making a play like the one he made on Dillon Brooks, where he got shoved, spun, and then elevated immediately to block the shot.

Heck, I can't recall many 6-9 guys making a play like that.
It looked like he was baiting him the whole time by turning his back. I think his blocks have much more marginal value than big man blocks since guards are really not used to anticipating a block threat from another guard.
 

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The blocks that White is routinely making now are absurd. I can't recall a 6-4 guy ever making a play like the one he made on Dillon Brooks, where he got shoved, spun, and then elevated immediately to block the shot.

Heck, I can't recall many 6-9 guys making a play like that.
DWade is only guy in the conversation that I can think of.

View: https://youtu.be/jiuC1lx8bWI?si=YAMKGTg0-3u0hQij
 

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Now that the Spurs have Wemby and the pick swap is seeming less meaningful, I'm officially feeling comfortable with it!
 

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Wow, Wade's are even better than I remembered. Same as DWhite, where he blocks guys straight up, in transition, from the weakside, on jumpers...

I think the conversation is really just DWhite and Wade.
Wade is a guy who always seemed to play a lot bigger than he was. Like White he was just 6'4, but Wade had at least 25-30 pounds on White, and 3-4 inches of wingspan.

It looked like he was baiting him the whole time by turning his back. I think his blocks have much more marginal value than big man blocks since guards are really not used to anticipating a block threat from another guard.
I'm not sure this is the case. Half the fun of having a shotblocker in the paint is that you get opponents afraid to even try them at the rim, or you can make people start second guessing how much time they think they have to shoot. We saw this with Rob once he broke out, and Wemby is the king of it now (Wemby having more than 50% more blocks than the guy in 2nd despite the entire league being terrified when he's anywhere near them is just unbelievable). The blocks are great, but I don't think that teams not being afraid to go at him is really a positive.
 

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Wade is a guy who always seemed to play a lot bigger than he was. Like White he was just 6'4, but Wade had at least 25-30 pounds on White, and 3-4 inches of wingspan.



I'm not sure this is the case. Half the fun of having a shotblocker in the paint is that you get opponents afraid to even try them at the rim, or you can make people start second guessing how much time they think they have to shoot. We saw this with Rob once he broke out, and Wemby is the king of it now (Wemby having more than 50% more blocks than the guy in 2nd despite the entire league being terrified when he's anywhere near them is just unbelievable). The blocks are great, but I don't think that teams not being afraid to go at him is really a positive.
I’m not saying it’s larger impact, i’m saying the marginal impact is greater, ie it’s a much bigger gap with respect to other players at his position. I completely agree big men have a far greater impact on shot selection and efficiency, but rim protection is already one of the top traits selected for for big men.
 

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Now that the Spurs have Wemby and the pick swap is seeming less meaningful, I'm officially feeling comfortable with it!
Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but we want the Spurs to be bad in 2028.

Having Wemby will probably make them a title contender in 3 seasons
 

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Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but we want the Spurs to be bad in 2028.

Having Wemby will probably make them a title contender in 3 seasons
The Spurs own the swap- and the decision to execute - don't they?
 

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The Spurs own the swap- and the decision to execute - don't they?
Yes.

If the Spurs have a better record than the Celtics in 2028, they will want to SWAP First Round picks

We should feel fine with the heist trade since it yielded Derrick White.

BUT the Spurs having Wemby makes the SWAP more meaningful, not less.
 

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Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but we want the Spurs to be bad in 2028.

Having Wemby will probably make them a title contender in 3 seasons
The Celtics are even more likely to be a title contender in 3 seasons which may lead to a swap of the 26th pick for the 28th or no swap at all.
i have to say that I would find the whole concept of pick swaps more interesting if either team could trigger the swap. It would be a bet by a GM that his team would suck worse then the other teams.
 

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Well if either team could trigger the swap somebody always would, so wouldn’t they just trade draft picks at the beginning?
 

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The Celtics are even more likely to be a title contender in 3 seasons which may lead to a swap of the 26th pick for the 28th or no swap at all.
i have to say that I would find the whole concept of pick swaps more interesting if either team could trigger the swap. It would be a bet by a GM that his team would suck worse then the other teams.
Maybe Nice Guy Brad tried the "mandatory SWAP" idea?

BUT I imagine the Spurs would have slammed the phone down and we wouldn't be drinking Derrick White Ale.
 

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Well if either team could trigger the swap somebody always would, so wouldn’t they just trade draft picks at the beginning?
But then we wouldn’t have 5 years of speculating about it and miss an entire season of two teams jockeying to end up with the higher pick. Think of it like the mid-season tournament cup of trades.
 

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But then we wouldn’t have 5 years of speculating about it and miss an entire season of two teams jockeying to end up with the higher pick. Think of it like the mid-season tournament cup of trades.
And given that there's a good chance that both teams are solid playoff teams in 2028, we're talking about potentially moving around a couple of spots in the mid 20s. Much ado about nothing.