Jesus lolSemperFidelisSox said:The concerned citizen in the other lane who called the authorities to alert them of the drunk driver? Yup, you guesse it. Bernard Pollard.
Jesus lolSemperFidelisSox said:The concerned citizen in the other lane who called the authorities to alert them of the drunk driver? Yup, you guesse it. Bernard Pollard.
maufman said:You're showing your age, my friend.
I'm no spring chicken either, but I'm pretty sure the bolded sentence means something quite a bit different than you intended.
DrewDawg said:
All it's missing is a Robot Apocalypse.
Toe Nash said:I just scanned this thread, but I'm surprised at the multiple people who said "he's not good enough" to put up with this kind of stuff. Dennard has like a $500k cap hit for the next 3 years and by my eyes and some advanced stats I saw posted he was at least an average CB. Even if he doesn't play this year you don't think it's worth keeping a guy around for two potential solid years at a dirt-cheap price?
dcmissle said:Seriously? #s 2 and 5 fit, and they won't acquit:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gang%20banger
Said her price go down, she ever fuck a black guy
Or do anal, or do a gangbang
It's kinda crazy that's all considered the same thing
Well I guess alotta n!!!!! do gang bang
LogansDad said:You guys have missed the obvious truth here.
Both of Aaron Hernandez and Alfonso Dennard have one thing in common that isn't the Patriots.
That's right, both of the first names start with the letter "A".
Why has it not already become obvious to everyone that anyone with a name that starts with the letter "A" is a pox on society and should never again be drafted by an NFL football team?
( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:Lock up Aaron Dobson now
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1m
Details from someone who heard Alfonzo Dennard's side of his
arrest: He attempted to blow for breathalyzer twice. Told he was below
limit...
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 52s
More Dennard: Officer told him he hadn't blown hard enough,
thus the did not comply designation. He was not asked to take a blood
test.
Don't mean to single you out, Ed, but I'm hearing the "get the fuck out of there" point a ton, whether on this board, on the radio/television (see: Herm Edwards, for instance), or in blogs/other outlets.Ed Hillel said:Sooooo, maybe that DWB thing...
And if that's true, that's why he should get the fuck out of there.
Ed Hillel said:I remember the probation, but he was given permission to travel, and I would be very surprised if he wouldn't be allowed to stay in MA during the offseason since it's his place of work.
According to tweets from his sentencing day. Court permission was required for travel other than between MA and NE. Since he was essentially "free" to travel to MA, i would assume he could just stayCorsi said:If I recall, he needed court's approval to travel. Perhaps not approaching the court with requests of unnecessary travel would serve him well when it came to getting his jail sentence dismissed.
Sorry, I meant to say he needed the court's permission. I guess it depends on how strict they wanted to be with him, but he does have a legitimate argument to be near Foxboro. And, if I was him, I would make every argument I could to get out of that area. It sucks, I'm sure much of his life is there, but I can't imagine even that is worth the risk of running into something like this (assuming it's true, which would not at all surprise me).Corsi said:
If I recall, he needed court's approval to travel. Perhaps not approaching the court with requests of unnecessary travel would serve him well when it came to getting his jail sentence dismissed.
yea, he's definitely not in KS anymoreSection15Box113 said:Ok, clearly need another cup of coffee!
If he read my second post and headed to KS, he'd be in jail now.
New England Patriots cornerback Alfonzo Dennard was arrested and cited Thursday for driving under the influence. But Dennard's camp paints a different picture of what happened before he was arrested by the Lincoln (Neb.) Police Department.
Dennard's camp claimed he was not asked to take a blood test and said that he did not "fail" the field sobriety test. NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported that Dennard attempted to blow for a Breathalyzer at least twice, according to a source who had heard specifics of Dennard's side of what happened. Each time, the attempt was not deemed to have been blown hard enough to meet officers' qualifications. But that number was believed to be below the legal limit. He was not asked to take a blood test.
The police department indicated that field sobriety tests were done, and that Dennard would not provide an adequate breath sample. The outcome of the test was not noted in the police report. Dennard also was cited for refusal of a chemical test and straddling lane lines.
Section15Box113 said:NFL.com now has a Gregg Rosenthal piece up which cites Rapoport's information. Nothing really new.
Each time, the attempt was not deemed to have been blown hard enough to meet officers' qualifications. But that number was believed to be below the legal limit
Maybe a driving in Lincoln, NE after being convicted of assault on a police officer and not being in jail kind of thing. Why was he in Lincoln anyway?Ed Hillel said:Sooooo, maybe that DWB thing...
And if that's true, that's why he should get the fuck out of there. Not that it proves BAC, but he should have a tab/record from where he was. Hopefully, that comes to light.
There are hundreds of reasons for him to be in Lincoln, many of which have been rehashed here by me.doc said:Maybe a driving in Lincoln, NE after being convicted of assault on a police officer and not being in jail kind of thing. Why was he in Lincoln anyway?
P'tucket said:RI Cop (or so he said, anyways) called into one of the sports talk shows this morning. If you don't blow hard enough into the breathalyzer, you don't get a low number; you get an error message. He said it wasn't an unusual for people to try to game the system that way, and that you get two shots before it's considered a de facto refusal.
So, "didn't fail" may or may not mean "blew a low number." As always, devil's in the details we don't really have yet.
dcmissle said:As usual, the haters claim too much and we defenders concede too little.
I saw a cable feed out of Boston a day or two ago. It was after AH but before this arrest. The two guys went on about "the Patriot Way" being lost because "bad guys" had infiltrated the team. The team needed to get off its moral high horse, they suggested.
"The Patriot Way" was never about good guys/bad guys, at least from the team's perspective, apart from one Myra Kraft intervention, which was pre-BB. It was all about on the field. Are you tough, smart and hardworking -- and is football VERY important to you? That's right out of the BB/Pioli mission statement when they planted their flag in Fox 13 years ago. These qualities enable you to, "do your job".
Well you can't do your job when you're in the fucking can, or certainly headed there, or narrowly averted going there with a great likelihood of going there this time. Which is to say Dennard and AH may be very tough and hardworking, but they certainly are not smart and football can't be close to the most important thing in their lives. How hard is it not to gang bang people when you are one of the most talented people at your position on the planet? How hard is it to dial the NFL limo service when you know the police are likely targeting you in a place to which you are confined by the terms of your probation?
These guys flunk two of the four prerequisites, and it's not even close. It think its highly unlikely that either would have been drafted when BB/Pioli were building this team in the early years.
I think I understand why they were drafted. A couple of problem children came here, contributed to great success, and left in one piece on the other side. That probably conferred great confidence. But at the same time consider that at both the positions impacted in these last few weeks -- TE and CB -- the Pats had invested great resources over the years, with so-so results at the first position and abysmal results at the second one. So you take chances -- especially after two heartbreaking and narrow SB defeats, and especially with TB entering the last quarter of his career.
That's why the real "Patriot Way" was abandoned, at least in part. And this now month long root canal underscores the cost and gives us some flavor of what it must have felt like for many years to be a Bengals fan.
BigSoxFan said:I'm back to where I was in 2007 during the Spygate BS where everyone piled on and made me want the Pats to go into "f you" mode. I say we embrace the bad boy label. Let's trade for Josh Brent, Pacman Jones, etc.
j44thor said:
Yeah I was thinking you either need to be very intoxicated to fail the blow test or intentionally not blow hard enough to fail it. Can't be all that difficult for an NFL CB to blow hard for 15 seconds or whatever the duration is.
The issue is that he might not have been trying hard enough, not that he was so drunk he was incapable of blowing hard enough. If it was the latter, then you'd expect him to fail the FBS; passing the FBS doesn't really speak to the former.Ed Hillel said:Alternatively, it wouldn't be hard to fudge it as a cop, would it? Below the legal limit? Oh you're not blowing hard enough...FAIL! Or do those things actually record somewhere? Otherwise, how will anyone know if it said error or something below the limit?
If he was so intoxicated he couldn't blow into the device, he likely would have failed the FBS. Not sure if that happened or not, but the fact that the report doesn't say he failed lends some credence to Dennard's version.
The real issue is we're stuck in he said/he said regarding that and the blood test, right? Do they make someone sign to the effect that they are refusing a blood test? Maybe the cop car camera will catch some of this?P'tucket said:The issue is that he might not have been trying hard enough, not that he was so drunk he was incapable of blowing hard enough. If it was the latter, then you'd expect him to fail the FBS; passing the FBS doesn't really speak to the former.
PaulinMyrBch said:It's been a while, but I used to defend these all the time.
If Dennard's version is correct, that he blew a number lower than .08 twice and the cop kept having him blow saying he wasn't blowing hard enough trying to get the score up, the cop is fucked, Dennard wins, and the cop is likely reassigned or fired. Period. The End.
Also this should all be on video. Field test on the car cam, attempts at blowing on the station cam.
crystalline said:Assuming that scenario were true (and most of us hope it is because it means he is innocent of this offense AND likely to play this year) --
The cops know this is all on video, right? Why would they let themselves get filmed committing misconduct without later erasing the video?
PaulinMyrBch said:It's been a while, but I used to defend these all the time.
Nebraska is an implied consent state which means having a license is implied consent to submit to a BA if suspected of drinking and driving.
When you are asked to blow, you have to blow a steady stream for a period of 10+ seconds in order for the machine to get a "sample". If the machine gets a sample, you get a score. If you don't blow hard enough, you don't get a sample. If there is no "sample", there is no score, and by statute it goes down as a "refusal to blow". It doesn't read some number lower than .08, it returns a code indicating there wasn't enough air to get a sample.
If Dennard's version is correct, that he blew a number lower than .08 twice and the cop kept having him blow saying he wasn't blowing hard enough trying to get the score up, the cop is fucked, Dennard wins, and the cop is likely reassigned or fired. Period. The End.
It is an unlikely scenario, but possible given the fact that he may have passed the field sobriety test and these cop's have a hard on for him.
Also this should all be on video. Field test on the car cam, attempts at blowing on the station cam.
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doc said:Maybe a driving in Lincoln, NE after being convicted of assault on a police officer and not being in jail kind of thing. Why was he in Lincoln anyway?
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nebraska-moves-revoke-dennards-probationLINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Nebraska prosecutors are moving to have probation revoked for New England Patriots' defensive back Alfonzo Dennard.
Online court records say an arraignment on the revocation motion is scheduled for July 31.
The 23-year-old Dennard was pulled over in Lincoln, Neb., early Thursday morning and is charged with first-offense drunken driving, refusing a chemical test and a traffic infraction.
It was Dennard's second arrest in 15 months. The former Cornhuskers star hasn't served a 30-day jail sentence for assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest outside a Lincoln bar on April 21, 2012. That term is scheduled to begin next March. He also was sentenced to two years of probation.
His attorney from the 2012 case didn't immediately return a call Tuesday from The Associated Press.